Travertine patio-fill holes or not?

jillcdanielsDecember 15, 2013
I have a travertine patio being installed now. The installer said he usually fills all of the holes with grout so water and dirt doesn't get trapped. Anyone have this type of patio filled or unfilled? Which is better and why?
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OnePlan
Filled ! Otherwise you may get stagnant water that could either freeze and crack the tile or become a source for Algae or moss etc !
2 Likes    Bookmark   December 16, 2013 at 9:24AM
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jillcdaniels
Miami, no freezing but algae and mold yes. What about grout? I don't have to fill it all the way, right? Chiseled edge.
2 Likes    Bookmark   December 16, 2013 at 9:27AM
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OnePlan
Ahhh ! No freeze then ! Lol !!!
...I would go with the installers advice on the grout, as he sounds like he knows what he's on about ! It is looking lovely by the way !!!
2 Likes    Bookmark   December 16, 2013 at 9:41AM
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Vandenberg Landscape Design LTD
It looks as though most of the patio is covered so it should not accumulate a lot of debris, also from the picture sent it does not appear as though the grout will penetrate between the stones but it will just fill the chiseled edge. If the grout is not in between the stones it will chip and flake over time. I would say no grout unless the lines are greater than 1/8".
1 Like    Bookmark   December 16, 2013 at 9:47AM
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jillcdaniels
So your saying no grout in between and no grout in the holes? Most of the patio is covered, but the part that isn't will be yucky. I don't want to fill half and not fill the other half. My tile guy suggests filling the big holes and maybe even the small ones.
    Bookmark   December 16, 2013 at 9:53AM
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yoboseiyo
when you grout it, the grout will fill the holes along with the space between the tiles.
it won't fill in the chisled edge.

listen to your installer, he sounds like he knows what he's doing.
1 Like    Bookmark   December 16, 2013 at 9:56AM
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hayleydaniels
We're in the process of tiling so we've been researching this. If the tile is porous, it needs to be sealed first, and then grouted or the grout will get in the pores, and you'll never get it out. I don't know if Travertine tile is porous, but I'd look into it so your tile isn't ruined by grout. I can tell you firsthand that grout is very difficult to get off tiles--that's what I'll be doing as soon as I get off here is cleaning the residual grout off the tiles from where we grouted yesterday.
    Bookmark   December 16, 2013 at 10:02AM
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Vandenberg Landscape Design LTD
I would agree with Hayley, either way seal your patio as soon as possible. Then talk with your installer and see how they plan to go about grouting it. Has your patio been set on a sand base or mortared to concrete.
    Bookmark   December 16, 2013 at 10:16AM
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jillcdaniels
It's on mortar and concrete. He said he mixes sealer in with the grout. Then grouts. Then sprays sealer on the whole thing.
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jillcdaniels
Sand on concrete sounded like a bad idea. 3 people wanted to do it that way. I had 5 quotes.
    Bookmark   December 16, 2013 at 10:18AM
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Vandenberg Landscape Design LTD
I would agree mortared is better. After learning the hard way we always seal our patio before grouting. It makes our cleanup a lot easier and also makes the final product better. For small holes that do not add up to continuous grout lines that you would find on a traditional tile patio, we have used a product called polymeric sand. For lack of a better explanation it is like sand with glue in it. Once it is made wet and then allowed to dry it will become as hard as grout. The good part is that if it cracks over time it can be reset by wetting the sand and then letting it re dry. I am sure you can find a better explanation on line.
1 Like    Bookmark   December 16, 2013 at 10:23AM
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jillcdaniels
Ended up not grouting the holes. The installer said it doesn't look as nice when you fill. It ruins the natural look of the stone. Hope it was the right decision. They will seal it and hopefully that will help!
    Bookmark   December 21, 2013 at 4:38PM
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Vandenberg Landscape Design LTD
I think you made the right call
2 Likes    Bookmark   December 21, 2013 at 4:42PM
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jillcdaniels
Here it is grouted. New columns come Monday and pool diamondbrite Thursday!
1 Like    Bookmark   December 22, 2013 at 4:58AM
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Vandenberg Landscape Design LTD
Looks great
    Bookmark   December 22, 2013 at 6:56AM
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jillcdaniels
New columns!
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Nancy Travisinteriors
Follow what pro says.
    Bookmark   December 24, 2013 at 7:33AM
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