Help with floorplan/ kitchen layout?
Ryan Fitzgerald
February 4, 2014 in Design Dilemma
So I recently bought a place in Upstate NY, and looking to change the floorplan around a bit... there currently is no back door, so I'm definitely going to be putting one in, I'm just not sure where yet.. I need to take out one or the other bedroom to do it. A woodstove is also a must before next winter hits. I'm currently on oil-fired radiators... while I love the radiators, I hate paying for the oil man to come pump more gold into my tank.

I'm going to be doing most of the work myself, and budget is a concern, so I would like to keep the kitchen/ bathroom in close to their current positions so I won't have to completely redo the plumbing in the basement.

The first picture is the current layout.. While I like the large bathroom, I think it's taking up too much real estate currently.. the second picture is what I'm thinking after collaborating with some friends.. Any and all ideas are very welcome!
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Ryan Fitzgerald
Zoomed in on the floorplans so they're easier to read on here... the porch is just a 3 season porch, so it doesn't matter for this plan..
February 4, 2014 at 2:03am   
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OnePlan
Ok - so I moved some bits a little .. Just to give you an idea to maybe condisider ( even if only briefly!)
February 4, 2014 at 7:16am        Thanked by Ryan Fitzgerald
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lefty47
HI -- Consider putting the laundry in or near the bathroom to keep all the plumbing close together . Also look at pellet stoves instead of a wood stove . Better heat for longer burning time . And watch where the doors are and the door swings. And also plan for more storage . I like the OnePlan floor plan -- only thing I would change is moving the bedroom door down closer to the bathroom area and not cutting into the kitchen. And I wouldn't stick the stove in the corner . Should be centered more on the wall backing the bedroom wall - better for heat distribution . Then the sofa will be on the opposite wall.
February 4, 2014 at 7:27am   
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Just changed to a bigger screen and realised I'd wiped out your stairs !! Lol ! I thought those brown bits were storage cupboards ! Whoops !!!
February 4, 2014 at 7:58am   
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lefty47
HI -- Whoops from me too !!
February 4, 2014 at 8:01am     
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OnePlan
Had a re think !
February 4, 2014 at 8:35am        Thanked by Ryan Fitzgerald
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Ryan Fitzgerald
Thanks OnePlan! Yeah... if budget was no concern, I'd be expanding into the backyard and moving the stairs... alas, I can't even afford to imagine what that would cost haha.
February 4, 2014 at 3:57pm   
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Ryan Fitzgerald
Oh, and if anyone asks: the wall that runs the length of the house is structural. When I take it out, I will need to put a header up.
February 5, 2014 at 2:40am   
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rinqreation
I hope this layout makes some sense. I gave it a try too.
Moved quite a lot of doorways to keep flow, but had no idea where to put the front door (is it a closed porch, a hallway, or..?) so I just enlarged the space (and forgot to place back a porch door).
Kept plumbing is mostly the same, even though I moved the kitchen. Dutch people are used to enter the kitchen when coming from the back of the house and entering the living from the front, so I went with my gut feelings.
Even though an ensuite bath might be nice, the north corner seemed better for a bedroom because it stays cooler in summer and a south and garden faced kitchen gets nice daylight (NY is about the same latitude as here, so green light on my assumption).
You can use the old chimney (maybe run a new pipe through it). Basement stairs are under the up-stairs, with a backdoor for easy access. Sliding doors in the kitchen for breezy summers. Small back room for whatever purpose you need (study/guest/laundry).
Made two big arches in the structural wall, closed off the bathroom door. All grey blocks are tall cabinets/closets (fridge too). Added some furniture for fun, nothing complete/final.
Tell me your thoughts.
February 11, 2014 at 4:23am        Thanked by Ryan Fitzgerald
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Ryan Fitzgerald
Rinq- Thank you! Unfortunately, that chimney is already in use by the oil-fired boiler in the basement, and it is not large enough to add a separate flue for the woodstove. The front area is a glassed-in 3 season porch, divided in the middle. It's an old house, so I think the larger part used to be used as a sleeper porch in the warmer months.
I'm not sure if moving the basement steps underneath the other stairs is doable, but I'll check it out... I have a cistern in the basement, and upon first glance it looks like those stairs would be going right into it.
Thanks again, and I think I might like the idea of moving the kitchen to the back of the house.. it'll be closer to my garden in the backyard that way. :)
February 13, 2014 at 1:53am   
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lefty47
HI -- Ryan -- After going over all the other comments and plans (good ideas in parts ) , I think you should just go with the plan you and your friends worked out . I think that is going to work best considering your budget. Moving stairs is a big deal . We did it ourselves and it worked out but it was major work . Only you know how much you can do and afford . It might be worth it to have an Architect in to see what they would come up with .
February 13, 2014 at 6:43am   
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