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cbea5
March 4, 2014 in Design Dilemma
I am dissatisfied with the organization of the room. What is missing? Or maybe have too much? Help
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Hi. Need more photos.

The chair that is facing the fireplace needs to be removed from there. It is too large and dark and a blockade.

If you are okay with viewing the tv from where the couches are, you can leave them there.

Larger coffee table
2 side tables should be placed on fireplace side and table lamps on them.
couches should be moved down as far as possible toward fireplace.
We can find another location for plates and letters, but they do not look good spread all over the room.
Remove drapes for panel drapes.
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decoenthusiaste
Too much is right. It is too cluttered. Remove ALL the decor and let's start fresh. You'll need a plan for displaying plate collection together in one spot so it has impact. Do you have a china cabinet where it can be displayed? I'd put one on the wall opposite the fireplace to serve as a counter balance and to properly house the plates where they don't have to be dusted all the time and where they'll make a statement. They all seem to be the same size and probably have a common theme. They remind me of Avon's collectible plates. Have you considered installing a plate rail either here or in the dining room or kitchen?
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One of my favorite plate ideas is one I just took from your very own idea book.

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The plate collection needs to move to the dining room. Your room is so very busy, I would take everything out and put some back in... piece by piece... leave the chair out.
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joancuneo
Hi, I agree. I think u should remove everything on the wall by the fireplace. Remove the floor lamp & chair. A big square coffee table, table lamps. What is behind the couch on the right? can you take a picture of that wall? Move couches down. A new fan light would be nice. I don't know what your budget is. Do u use the fan?
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joancuneo
Also some color. An accent wall & pillows.
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Margo
I agree with Sustainable that the plates should move out of the living area;)
Next. I agree with CDR and would remove the swags from the windows and put up panels. I also agree with larger coffee table.
Next. I would remove the trinkets on the fireplace mantel since you have made this your TV wall. I do not like that chair there either but I have to assume that is the primary TV watchers location? I might take out some chiropractor insurance;))
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Maybe change couches around . Like the picture
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Yep, the TV looks very permanent there and I am going to assume you don't want to move it.

Short of Margo's idea of the chiropractor insurance, you can, as she suggested, also L the couches.

Biggest first items are to take down the plates and get the furniture moved. Then we can go from there.
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So, cbea5, what are you willing to do?
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cbea5
Here is the couch table. Should I leave there?
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cbea5
I will be taking your advice. This room is actually not my main room for TV. We do use the fan during the summer, as one person asked me about the functionality. I just need advice on the couch table as we'll. thank you again
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Think big to small. Let's get the couches set first.

Are you keeping the tv above fp or are you willing to move it?
If not, do you want the couches facing each other, or in an L shape?
Are you willing to move the chair out of its current location.

After this is settled we can worry about the console table. I see no use for it, though.
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anne dee
You are receiving very good design/decor direction.
Simplify!!
This pic is good inspiration for your nice space.

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Okay, so

-remove sofa table.
-remove large chair
-place end tables by the fireplace.

Kindly do this and retake photos. Thanks.
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Margo
Yes, a call for action!!
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cbea5
I will take your advice and will be moving the chair. Actually I have 2 decorative chairs in my study that I can use in the living room. The tv will stay, I love to watch tv during meals.
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You are moving the George Jetson chair out and moving 2 other chairs in?
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cbea5
I will do. Greatly appreciate your advice!
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cbea5
What do u think of this chair?
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For the living room? I don't see a place for it. More appropriate for a dining room.

Let's get the other furniture moved and then we can decide if we have room for other pieces.

Maybe we could place a small table with 2 chairs at the back of the room, once the couches are moved toward the fireplace.

One step at a time.
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love the layout joancuneo proposed !! the idea of not blocking the window with a sofa and adding a small chair to the corner is fabulous. one of the sofas will be facing the tv, too :)
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Nancy Travisinteriors
Way too much. Get rid of everything on walls. Get panels on ends of window only remove valance. Get a coffee table rectangle instead of garden stools. You can use those, on ends. Try a chandelier instead of fan.
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Nancy Travisinteriors
Move sofa back to window no space behind. Add two big chairs wing back would work in a color print. Place looking at TV. You have no color add some in pillows and panels. Add big palms in corners by Firepl. For texture.
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Nancy Travisinteriors
Floor lamp goes on side of sofa. The room is very busy. Declutter.
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I think I see glass on garden stools. Change out for wood. I said rectangle but get square 36" for scale.
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cbea5, you have received a lot of different options.

I would say one idea that is common is to remove the large chair. How about if you start with that.
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The best way to decorate a mantel is to select one theme and stick with it. You can create a really interesting display above the fireplace if you move the TV (to a stand on the floor) and add a mantel shelf.
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cbea5
Removed items requested. Where to go from here?
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Make sure couch is centered on fireplace. Then please take photo standing at entrance to room. Thanks.
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decoenthusiaste
Take down the plate racks and Chinese characters. Please take note of the fact that the plate racks are hanging higher than the window frame. That should be avoided when you hang art. Don't let the high TV get you off track. What have you decided to do with the plates? If you want to do a wall display, start by cutting out plate shapes with butcher paper or poster board or simply trimming down regular paper plates. Lay out your design on the floor under the wall where they'll go. Then transfer the paper plates to the wall using painter's tape. Make sure the center point of the arrangement is 5 feet off the floor. If there is to be a piece of furniture under the display, put in place so you can keep the footprint of the plate arrangement within 75% of its width.
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If this is not your main tv watching room, why don't you put it elsewhere? I'm in agreement with everyone else, remove all wall paraphernalia, it is all too high anyway. Put the plates in the dining room where plates belong, the Chinese thingy's well let's say I'm not a fan, window treatments are too small. It is a good size room, put substantial sizes pieces in it.
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Hi. This room has a lot of potential. The fireplace is the focal point and, as I see it, the tv is an eyesore. It could have a really nice piece of art hanging over the fireplace.

So, before we move on, could you please answer these questions.

1) What do you see as the main function of the room?
2) Are you willing to remove the tv?
3) If you are not willing to remove the tv, are you willing to move it to another location in the room?
4) If you are not willing to move it to another location in the room, are you willing to have it some work done to it in the area of reframing, etc?


Thanks much!
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Do you have a love seat and a couch or 2 couches? If couch and love seat, I would place the couch facing the window and the love seat facing the fireplace.
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Took your advice.

- removed plates from the wall
- removed large chair
The living room is 17x17 therefore couldn't place the tables next to the fireplace as you recommended.
Will buy a paint for the wall next to the French doors.
Will buy the square table.

So far, what do you think?
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cbea5
We do have a couch and love seat. On the picture I did the reverse setting as you suggested. Oops...
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mfwolfe
You did all this in less than 24 hours. Good job. And the room is looking so much better. Probably feels a little empty but it will fill up. Has some great potential.
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mfwolfe
Another point. I had forgotten how restful and comfortable a room with wall to wall carpet can feel. Please don't take it out.
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Wow! It looks so much better with the plates removed!

We will call this arrangement Option 1. It was not my suggestion, but someone else's.

Question:

Is the love seat facing the fireplace? That looks like the couch.
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Can you also try Option 2?

Couch on right side of fireplace ( end table by fireplace. You have plenty of room!!)
Love seat on left side of fireplace (end table by fireplace.)
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mfwolfe
Sorry. Early in the morning and the thoughts aren't flowing. Heard you say you like the fan. I also like fans, but it would be less obtrusive if you had the light removed. Assuming you do not use the light.
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cbea5
Thanks for all the positive advice. My thought exactly about the wall to wall carpet in the room, even though the rest of the downstairs has wood floors.
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Margo
cbea5- keep up the good work, if more people who posted on Houzz would follow your example they would see some nice results. I think it is good that CDR is leading you. Sometimes to many opinions thrown at one poster, to fast, leads to just frustration. Way to go!! ;)
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cbea5
The couch is facing the fireplace. It was a mistake, too excited with all the suggestions:). Will switch with the love seat and will resend pic.

Will do option 2 and pics will be on the way.

Light fan is a fix piece, but I may replace the fan in the near future.
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Thanks Margo and cbea5. It sounds like you are trying the different options suggested....not a bad idea.
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*just watching the progress of this room. ;-)
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stevi
Your room looks more spacious and inviting now. You are on your way to solving your design dilemma. Keep up the good work and enjoy your home.
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cbea5
CDR, here is option 2. Interesting setting. We have 2 recess lights on each side of the fireplace, so having lamps on the table would not be function-able, in my humble opinion.
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cbea5
Other view
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Margo
OK- I gotta say this....what is throwing this room off is the loveseat, sorry. It would look better to have two club chairs and and a side table between them across from the sofa. rest arrow on pic to enlarge;)

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Margo
Add some pretty drapery panels to the windows ;)

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I agree the it would look better with a couch and 2 chairs or a love seat and 2 chairs.

If you are going to use the couch and love seat, then, for

option 1: love seat needs to face fireplace
option 2: love seat needs to be on the side toward the entrance

So, in both options, couch and love seat need to be switched.

Lamps: can lights provide ambient light, but not task lighting. Lamps can provide task lighting. However, if you do not want or need lamps on the tables, then don't put them there.

Please show option 1 and 2 with love seat and couch switched, as explained above. Thanks.
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anne dee
this transitional look would suit yr space
the cabinets on either side of the FP would add balance and anchor the room
I like the blue accents.

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anne dee
I like where you're going with this. Margo!
very nice recommendations .
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cbea5
CDR, here is option 1.
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cbea5
Anne Dee, I love the pic you've sent me. Beautiful
Margo, thanks for the web sites. Love the curtains and pillow.

Thanks for all the help.
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Margo
Anne Dee- I think you were the one that set me on this path with the blues;)
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Margo
cbea5- have you thought about maybe adding some crown moulding to your ceiling?
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cbea5
Another view from the back door
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cbea5
Yes Margo. You have already someone in mind for the work.
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We
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Margo
OH, glad to hear that;)
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Option 1 looks much better with the love seat facing the fireplace. Allows you to pull the couch in toward the fireplace and makes the space more open to the entrance. Option 1 allows you to view tv while eating, which is something you stated you like.

After you try option 2, you can make final decision!
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Can you imagine trying to hang crown molding and not break any of those plates? You would have had to take them down anyway!

Can't tell you how much better the room looks!!
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cbea5
Margo suggested blue for curtains and pillows. This room is a great room so should I bring the blue to my kitchen?
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I think the blue is very pretty, but it is one option.

So, this room connects to the kitchen? Where?
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Margo
Guess we need to see pics of the whole great room;)
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cbea5
The kitchen is behind the love seat. What other colors schemes do you recommend?
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cbea5
Here it is....
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Margo
You could easily stay with the blue;)
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Well if you are looking forward to renovate your living room then would suggest you to change the color of walls if possible, also try to make the room looks fresh by taking out extra things which are not much in use. Also if possible do bring glossy colored curtains for windows to make it look more attractive.
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Margo
May I ask? Are you in love/committed to the verical blinds?
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It appears the backsplash is a sort of beige. Main countertop is black? What color is the island countertop?
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cbea5
It's beige, with brown and black specs.the cabinetry is golden oak and island cabinetry is espresso.
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Sounds like you can add the blue to your kitchen.
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cbea5
Should I bring the curtains from the living room to the kitchen ?
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Margo
I would put in a coordinating roman shade in the kitchen;)

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Margo
A simple way to bring in the blue in the kitchen would be to replace the frosted pendant shades with blue ones;) Just the shades not the whole fixture.
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Somewhere, you can reuse those 2 blue urns you had for the coffee table. Just keep them in mind.
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Margo
If you end up leaving the love seat facing the fireplace, maybe you could put the sofa table behind it so that you are not looking at the back of a sofa;)
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decoenthusiaste
Haven't seen the wall opposite the FP, so this is a guess based on your 17x17 size space. Hope you like it. Added a corner display for some of the plate collection. They might also go on the wall opposite the FP as in some of the pix others have shared.
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Now that we see the whole thing, this part of the plan will work without the back wall since there is nothing on it but a picture and the corner display. Looks like you do have some wall there to put the corner cabinet.
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I like the addition of the chair by the fireplace. Dare I ask.....what does the George Jetson chair look like if you take the afghan off it? Is it orange?
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cbea5
Hahaha....it's a burnt orange and it's visiting the office for awhile.
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OH MY, I would leave George on an extended hiatus;)
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Jetson jettisoned to office. What other chairs do you have that may work there?
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Need some long narrow mirrors on wall with small window
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cbea5
Have a older recliner. However, just may open the wallet and buy the chair and the coffee table. Time to do a facelift in the living room:)
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decoenthusiaste
Yes - chair, coffee and sofa table might be good investments. Have you packed up all the plates or are they still in play?
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cbea5
They have been packed up in their original boxes.
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Good decision. This will be a beautiful space.
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joancuneo
Am I the only one who thinks the long couch might look better facing the fireplace & the love seat on the right of it? A space needs to be between the two couches. They looked like they are both touching the end table. What a great job you are doing. It looks good.
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That's the way it started out joancuneo. Since the kitchen and dining open right into this space it was decided to use the smaller sofa so there wouldn't be such a blocked feeling. I think most of us at Houzz would prefer a pair of chairs to a loveseat any day, but that's not always possible. Imagine how much more open it would feel with a pair of chairs instead. For now, adding one armchair seems to be the best choice. Quite a change since the plate room first posted!
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joancuneo
I understand now. The room looks bigger, that's why I didn't think it would feel so closed in with the kitchen opening into it. Also, just to let you know, that's not how the room started out. It started with couches facing one another. Anyway, I would love to see the chairs too.
It is looking so good. Wow! Good work
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decoenthusiaste
Well, that was the start-out for the change-up. Everyone wanted them in an "L" so they got moved immediately. Glad to see enthusiastic Houzzers get right to it with their rooms.
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