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Opinion on soil mix?

13 years ago

I need a blessing on a soil mix I've been planning for my vegetable garden. This is my first year so any advice, whether in relation to my soil or not, will be appreciated :)

I will have 3 raised beds, each L4'xW4'xH1' = 16 cu.ft =

120 gallons.

per raised bed:

1 Bail of Premier peat moss (28.5 gallons)

1.5 Bags of Black Gold Garden Compost (42.75 gallons)

3 Bags of Gardener's Gold compost (12 gallons)

3 Bags of Organic Perlite (22.5 gallons)

Total in Gallons: 106

Grand Total (3 beds): 318

Thank you in advance :)

Comments (13)

  • 13 years ago

    It is important that you have a baseline for your native soil to make these amendments meaningful. Have you had a soil test? Can you describe the soil structure (composition, drainage, existing organisms)?

  • 13 years ago

    I can't think of any reason to add perlite or peat moss to a raised bed. These sterile materials provide no nutrients and a raised bed seldom needs them to provide drainage. Depending on what your native soil is like, I'd probably go with 50% compost, 45% native soil, 5% washed sand.

  • 13 years ago

    Sounds expensive and you could use some clay components. The peat and perlite are nutrient-bare filler and there's way too much perlite in that mix.

    Organic matter/compost is great stuff, but clays help bind and exchange the nutrients that OM helps make available. Topsoil usually contains some clays. It's not a huge deal as much as all the perlite/peat, though. More soil in, less filler in...almost 1/2 your soil mix is filler.

  • 13 years ago

    thank you all for your advice! I've switched up the mix thanks to your feedback.

    11.25 gallons BG compost
    12 gallons GG compost
    84 gallons topsoil
    10 gallons sand

    117.25 gallons total
    That's about $3.40 a cu. ft.

    sound better?

  • 13 years ago

    no one, hm? Well, thanks a lot.

  • 13 years ago

    Be more patient. It takes awhile to get a response some times. I don't have an answer for your question, but I'm sure you will get some soon!

  • 13 years ago

    haha, thank you for the advice :)

  • 13 years ago

    That's about $90 per yard which seems a bit expensive but is probably a rather premium soil mix. I'm not sure if I'd pay for 'topsoil.' You might find premixed veggie soils available in bulk for ~$30-80 per yard not including delivery if you don't feel like digging.

  • 13 years ago

    I'd agree with Art, the mix looks good, but the price seems high. I get 50 lb bags of washed sand at a box store for $3 each and I risk using city compost because it's free. I use my own topsoil, so my own raised beds' soil cost is pennies per cubic foot (with only the 3 mile drive & my own labor as uncounted costs). It's pretty common though for everyone too overpay for composted organic matter when starting out, it can take awhile to find the freebie/cheap sources in your area.

    I still kick myself for never taking advantage when the zoo in SF covertly gave away the exotic animal manures, many years ago. I probably denied myself my only chance in life to grow cabbages in composted tiger poop.

  • 13 years ago

    Dicot - I'll bet Charlie Sheen got his start that way.

  • 13 years ago

    I agree the price is a bit high but I'm really not all that worried about the price. So long as I have a mix that's going to make the veggies happy I'm happy. I'm making a bin and starting a compost pile as well this spring so hopefully by next season I won't have to worry about buying too much. Thank you all for the opinions and advice I really do appreciate it!

    And Dicot, that certainly would have been one interesting story to tell people.
    Hope you're all having a magical night.

  • 13 years ago

    Mel's Mix is the only thing I'll ever use again. I have had different garden's over the years probably not as many as some on here but due to moves and such I've had to start over several times. When I did this raised bed I went with the square foot gardening mix (kinda) and everything grew like weeds even in limited sunlight. I was extremely please and will be doing it again.

    I used 1/3 compost by the truck load (Mel recommends at least 3 kinds of compost if it is manure. I just used was my nursery dishes out)

    1/3 perlite expensive and I might not have used exactly 1/3

    1/3 spagnum moss

    mixed well. And just like the book recommends I only add compost and mix well when needed due to settling and such.

    So far I couldn't be happier with the results it drains well, holds some moisture and my plants grow great. I don't add fertilizer and I grow organic.

  • 13 years ago

    A soil less mix will work just fine in a raised bed. Think of it as a giant pot. I would add a bunch of pine bark fines to the mix though, which is also a cheaper material if that's the way you want to go.

    That being said, the extra drainage provided by the soil less mix is not as important in a raised bed due to the ground below acting as a giant wick. You can get fabulous growth in a mix like this, but is better suited to synthetic fertilizers then organic fertilizers. Many would prefer a more soil based mix, especially where you are using compost which is more organic. It would be much cheaper to use a more soil based mix as well.

    Personally, I use a combination of the above. I do bark based soil less mixes in pots, then when I'm finished with them I mix it with soil and compost to throw in the garden.

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