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"Benny Lopez"

12 years ago

Also from the Santa Barbara Open Garden & Sale Catalog:

âÂÂBenny LopezâÂÂ

(Probable Damask Perpetual, âÂÂFound,â Santa Barbara, CA by Benny Lopez; collected by Ingrid Wapelhorst)
âÂÂBenny Lopez,â was found in Santa Barbara, CA, and grown for decades by a gentleman of that name. It offers beauty, EXCELLENT repeat bloom, and rich fragrance on a plant of good, medium size, arching, graceful of habit, with excellent disease resistance.

âÂÂBenny Lopezâ seems to be a Damask Perpetual.
But WHICH Damask Perpetual?

(It is NOT âÂÂPickering 5-Seasons Rose.â Ingrid Wapelhorst grew them side-by-side. They are not the same.)

Yes, of course we wish we knew what it is but weâÂÂll settle for preserving its existence through distribution. Our thanks to Mr. Lopez, who shared his treasure with Ingrid Wapelhorst (now of Oregon) and to Ingrid, who generously shared it forward.
âÂÂBenny Lopezâ is rarely seen in commerce, and difficult to obtain.

**Suitable for Exhibition, where a âÂÂFound Rosesâ class is offered, âÂÂBenny Lopezâ has won that class at a National Rose Show.

Jeri

Comments (20)

  • 12 years ago

    Thanks for sharing, Jeri. I love that dark-pink/red color. Ingrid W. in Oregon is a great gal. I asked her a question in HMF and she responded so graciously ...

    The rich fragrance sounds good. I find antique roses' scent to be much better than any hybrid tea (except for Rock n' Roll). They have a rack labeled, "fragrant roses" at Sam's club ... and none of them have any real scent compared to antique roses.

    People pay big money for perfumes ... but none of the bottled perfume can measure up to antique roses. That's why I put up with Paul Neyron ... just for that fabulous scent.

  • 12 years ago

    YA! I hear 'ya.
    I have some problems smelling a lot of roses, but the ones I can smell, I love the most.

    Jeri

  • 12 years ago

    I love that rose! What a gorgeous picture of it!

    kay

  • 12 years ago

    I have him coming later this month from Vintage Gardens. He's one of the ones that I'm really lookng forward to!

    Tammy

  • 12 years ago

    Tammy -- Please report on how he does.

    We know he "works" in Coastal Southern California, but since we have no clue what he is, we don't know how he'll do elsewhere. I'm curious!

    Jeri

  • 12 years ago

    Jeri, is that a typo- It is not the "Santa Barbara Open Garden & Sale Catalog" is it?

    I am so lusting for this rose!

    Any guess if it is one that likes to root better in certain times of the year? The neighbors have one.

  • 12 years ago

    HAHA Kippy -- That's what happens when I am typing, and Clay wants me to hurry up, to walk dogs.

    No. It is the Historic Sacramento City Cemetery
    Historic Rose Garden
    Saturday, April 20

    Sacramento City Cemetery, 1000 Broadway, Sacramento.

    Jeri

    I don't know that it's fussy about time, but I hope we can start a couple this year.

  • 12 years ago

    I'll be sure to report back, Jeri.

    I have quite a few of the "found" roses coming from their fall releases that were never actually listed on their website....so I'm looking forward to that order arriving in a couple of weeks :)

    Tammy

  • 12 years ago

    Tammy, as we descend into a "dark age" in which such roses are not in Commerce, it is the Found Roses we are most likely to lose.

    So, plant them. Learn to propagate, and share them. This is the only way we're gonna preserve them.

    Jeri

  • 12 years ago

    Jeri- I really like the looks of 'Benny Lopez'. I just received him today along with: forest ranch Pom pon, korbel canyon red china and Placerville white noisette. I look forward to growing these rarities.

  • 12 years ago

    Jeri- I really like the looks of 'Benny Lopez'. I just received him today along with: forest ranch Pom pon, korbel canyon red china and Placerville white noisette. I look forward to growing these rarities.

  • 12 years ago

    Hey, Matt -- That's way cool!

    I want to tell you something about "Placerville White Noisette" because I think it makes the roses even better, when you know their stories.

    We collected him second -- and WE called him "Jacob Zeisz." He came from the grave of young Jacob Zeisz, whose Bavarian-born father started one of the first real breweries in California. It was in Placerville, and I've seen what remains of the ruins.

    The remarkably handsome striding Grizzley Bear on Jacob's tombstone is a California symbol, and as it turns out, the symbol of the Native Sons Of The Golden West. Jacob, despite his relative youth, was an active member. I guess they valued him, because they erected his marker.

    Later, poking around, we found that Jacob's Mama and sister are buried in front of him. Papa seems to be ... elsewhere.

    Jacob's rose should be dynamite for you. I love all your choices. :-)

    Jeri

  • 12 years ago

    That's awesome Jeri. I love plants w/ a history and that is an interesting one! Your pics are beautiful. Hopefully, Benny Lopez and Forest Ranch will like TX growing conditions. I garden in Dallas and Austin.

  • 12 years ago

    I have no doubt at all about Jacob Zeisz -- and I THINK the other two should be good -- because I know things of similar type do well at ARE. And ARE, after all, isn't THAT far from Austin.

    I was surprised, taking a tour of ARE, to realize that I was standing on the banks of the Little Yegua -- the river that runs through my G-Grandpa's ranch land, East of Austin.

    'Benny Lopez' was a Santa Barbara discovery, and does really well here at the coast. But he also does very well in Sacramento, which is further inland, with hotter summers and sandy soil.

    "Forest Ranch Pom-Pom" comes from the northern end of the state -- up near Chico, CA. Also hotter summers, and colder winters than us down here.

    Jeri

  • 12 years ago

    I seem to remember that on HMF they say that this rose is nutrionally demanding..."feed this rose well for best results" or the like. Seems odd for a found rose! Do any of you who grow it feel this to be true? bart

  • 12 years ago

    It does?
    No. We rarely remember to feed things. Too busy pulling weeds. :-)

    "Benny Lopez" continues to bloom here as long as we remember to deadhead him. If we don't -- he don't. But I just snap off dead blooms as I walk by -- which is fine with "Benny."

    Me and "Benny," we think a lot of each other. :-)

    Jeri

  • 12 years ago

    'Benny Lopez' has beautiful, fragrant blossoms; but, for me in our bright sunshine just two counties south of Jeri's, they "cook" almost immediately. This distinguishes it in my garden from the 'Hudson Crimson', alias 'Jay's Hudson Crimson', to which it is often compared. Hudson only cooks or crisps for me during the worst hot spells of summer; Benny does it even during the mild and damp days of early Spring. It's definitely a winner in the right climate! Benny's leaves are a little more handsome than those of Hudson. To me, it looks like an early HP (as does Hudson) rather than a DP.

  • 12 years ago

    Brent -- You're micro-climate is -- surprisingly -- A LOT hotter and drier than ours.

    Penni -- the nice lady who is webmistress for Heritage Roses Group -- lives fairly near you, and she's almost always warmer than I.

    I suspect this has something to do with the odd arrangement of hills here, which gives us more fog and less rain than the rest of the area. But "Benny" is just fine in Thousand Oaks, too.

    Once again, I suspect, it's "Location, Location, Location."

    Jeri :-)

  • 12 years ago

    I eagerly await Benny, to be delivered in May. If it is a Damask Perpetual, I hope it is as hardy as the others.

    I am finding that in NY, all the Portland roses need lots of nourishment. My best so far is Pergolese, which I got grafted from Pickering.

  • 12 years ago

    Benny's happy in Pacifica, CA in the fog and that makes me happy too.

    Diane

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