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20 years ago

Tstrees sent me pics of her GH and I thought the forum would enjoy seeing her restoration project. With her permission, here they are.

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"I just restored a 1950's Lord and Burham 28 x 28 glass house. I moved the greenhouse (actually two) from a site that was going to be demolished. My crew took it down except the large steel supports. Those were moved by crane, loaded on a trailor and delivered to my farm. We left behind all the heat pipes.

"The foundation is a 4 foot poured cement on cement footers. We graded a small hill to lower the greenhouse into the site, rather than make it stick way up out of the ground. You enter it from the front down a fieldstone ramp, with a small glass alcove over it. The back door is at ground level. We can drive our John Deere Gator right up to the plants from either end.

It is 28 x 28 and about 15 feet to the peak. (maybe a little more). We also salvaged the cypress benches. I heat it with two furnaces set on cinder blocks with two separate themastats. The furnaces have specially made vents so the heat is delivered at about 5 feet high."

Pretty nice, huh?

Comments (13)

  • 20 years ago

    Magnificent!!!. I love the old hand cranks and the front vestabule adds so much character.
    I am truly envious.
    Send more details. Did you get a good deal on it?
    Send updated pictures with plants.
    Congradulations!!!!!!

  • 20 years ago

    Wow, that's gorgeous! What part of the country is it in?

    MJ

  • 20 years ago

    Everything that cactusfreak just said, and more. Very Cool, (that is high praise.)

  • 20 years ago

    I'm overwhelmed by your praise. Thak you. It is nice, but I quess I got so involved in doing it, I didn't have the time to step back and see it with a fresh eye.

    I'm in zone 6, the top of the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia.
    You can see the mountains through the glass in the winter.
    Still working on cooling it. Will probably start with two HAV fans, as I don't want a lot of noise. Probably two speed so I can use a quieter speed when I'm in it.

    I will take more pictures, and be happy to answer other questions. Tstrees

  • 20 years ago

    I still have the frame for the second greenhouse, and I have considered putting it up. I wouldn't want to use glass for this one. I wonder how aluminum parts and polycarbonate would work? It would go up a lot faster, and the foundation wouldn't have to be so expensive. Anyone have any experience with this?

  • 20 years ago

    What if you used it for a shade house?

  • 20 years ago

    I have a hoop house - 40 feet long, but narrow and not very tall. I've actually taken down 20 feet of it. It has served it's purpose. It would be a good frame for a chicken or pheasant house.
    I could use the other frame to move the greenhouse plants to in the summer with a shade cloth in the summer, and use a white plastic in the winter to protect my 'outdoor' plants thru the winter.
    A shade house is a good idea.
    It would not be difficult to put up the steel frame, and cover it with shade cloth. The foundation would be much simpler, than the one I built for glass. A very good idea. thank you.

  • 20 years ago

    What type is the 2nd greenhouse?
    I just noticed your glass is put in the old fashioned way. Laying over the next piece. Neat.
    I forgot to tell you mine has a black rubber gasket around it before it is put in the frame. Then a metal strip and gasket is screwed down on top of that.
    On the second one. I think just the frame standing alone without any type of cover would be great looking. You could use 4x4's or larger for the foundation since you are not putting glass in it. I was told mine could have been on 4x4's but I wanted it higher. I do not get much frost heaving in the winter.

  • 20 years ago

    Below is an excellent link on HAF. You will see that HAF fans in cfm should equal double the square footage of the GH. With a GH of 784 sq ft, you'll need HAF fan capacity of 1568 cfm. Even with a good fan, like the "Long-life" HAF fan from Charleys, rated at 450 cfm, you'll need 3 or four of them. The link, as I recall, also discussed placement of the fans.

    I've got some more questions. What are you growing in the GH? Thoughts on automating the GH with motorized vents, fans and shutters? Thoughts on balancing the aesthetic appeal of those lovely old hand cranks with the appeal of our modern GH conveniences?

    I'll say it again, really nice job.

    Here is a link that might be useful: HAF fact sheet

  • 20 years ago

    Here are some "before" pictures.

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  • 20 years ago

    Hello again, I've been in chicago on family things.

    I'm definitely going to put in fans for air circulation. Hope to get them purchased this next few weeks. I like the moving air, but I don't think I'm ready for fans and louvers. I have those in the plastic house right next to the glass one.

    I have some tropicals in the house, nothing fancy. My daughters grow heirloom tomatoes and other plants for the spring shows in the house, such as peonies, ornamental grasses, lenton rose. Last year they grew a couple thousand plants. I grow my orchid's in the plastic house, more humidity, less sun and the automatic louvers for temp control are in there. They're quite happy in the plastic house. I could move the sun loving orchids (very few) to the glass house, but so far I haven't.
    I have considered automatic motors to open the roof vents of the glass house. They're probably going to be essential by spring. This summer all vents were wide open, both doors were open,and we watered every day. Shade cloth too. My biggest problem was I should have shaded the back (south wall) of glass too.
    This is the year to improve it all. Last few years was taken up just getting it back together. But, I'm going to put up the second frame too. It is exactly the same as the greenhouse I put up. The 'old' pictures show two houses.
    Tstrees

  • 20 years ago

    well I 'll be a son of a buck,
    It just purty!!!!
    great score!!

  • 20 years ago

    You might be interested in how I wound up cooling my greenhouse in order to conserve space and increase the cooling rate. I buried 2 55 gallon drums with 4 inches above ground. Rebar went through holes cut in the exposed rim so nothing big could get through and 1 inch mesh was placed on top of the rebar. A utility fan was placed to blow upward from the bottom of the hole. The subsurface soil was much cooler than the top so I had a nice cool breeze coming up at each end of my greenhouse. If you have a high water table this may not work for you. Sandy

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