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use of thyme as groundcover in perennial bed?

16 years ago

Hi,

I've got a long and shallow bed that runs N-S and has a western exposure. Most of the bed gets great afternoon sun, but some parts are thrown into shadow by bay windows and such on the house.

At present, the bed contains a large number of assorted daffodils; they're over-planted with daylilies, a few astilbes (in the shady spots), and a clematis on a free-standing trellis.

The daylilies are young and not well-enough filled-out to choke out the weeds, which I know they will do in another few years. In the meantime, I was thinking of planing a groundcover to fill in the bare spots between daylily fans, partly to improve the look of the bed, partly to help with weed control. I know that mulch will work, but we're having a difficult time arriving at a consensus about the mulch type within the household. A vocal contributor is passionately fond of the bright red mulch, while another vocal contributor passionately hates the bright red mulch. I'm thinking we may be able to finesse the issue with a groundcover.

Last week I was at the Coastal Maine Botanical Gardens (if you have a chance to go, they are TERRIFIC!) and saw a section where they were using several different types of thymes as a groundcover.

I'm interested in people's experience with this & soliciting opinions...

How effective is thyme in choking out weeds? (90% of the weeds I deal with are sorrel and crabgrass)

Is there a particular type of thyme that works well for this?

Is thyme likely to invade the adjacent grass?

Is thyme likely to cause problems with the daylilies?

Any other suggestions for groundcover plants in a daylily bed?

Thanks for your ideas, in advance!

Lori

Comments (6)

  • 16 years ago

    The usual groundcover thyme is creeping thyme. It works well at suppressing crabgrass (a fairly easy task), less well at wood sorrel (a much harder task). It will spread into the lawn, and generally seed around. It may be aggressive enough to slow the spread of the daylilies, though it isn't tall enough to interfere with established plants. Personally, I'd pick veronica Georgia Blue over thyme for this purpose. It's more attractive in flower, and a better level of aggressiveness. Chrysogonum also would be nice, geranium dalmaticum is a very short perennial geranium that works as a groundcover.

    In general, I'd say you want a shade tolerant groundcover because you want something that will grow under the daylily foliage, and not compete well with lawn grass.

  • 16 years ago

    I use creeping thyme grown from seed in a couple places in my gardens. It is agressive but easily pulled. This year with our good rains it has spread far and wide. I pulled a bunch out and cut it back before blooms could set seed. I like the low green look of its new foliage best. Took about two weeks to look nice again.

    In another place I have wooly thyme which has spread more than I expected and has stayed nice and low. I am considering replacing the creeping thyme with more wooly thyme.

    I have read that weeds can still grow in thyme and have pulled a couple of maple tree seedlings and other tiny seedlings out of mine. You could put leaf mulch around the thyme and as it grows longer it will cover the leaf mulch (which helps prevent weeds.)

  • 16 years ago

    Forgot to mention that I use hardy geraniums, 'White Nancy' and other varieties of lamium as well as a creeping sedum for ground cover.

  • 16 years ago

    Oy, when I inherited the bed there were hardy geraniums planted in it, and it's been the absolute devil to eliminate them. Not that I have a big problem with Cranebills, but the person who put these in was both color-blind and had no sense of where to plant things. I agree - they ARE effective at covering a big patch of dirt!

    The White Nancy lamium looks like a good bet to plant in the part of the bed with the clematis - it's Rebecca, and blooms a deep, deep red.

    And the Veronica Georgia Blue looks AMAZING! I wasn't familiar with that one at all. I had Veronica Goodness Grows in a bed with May Night Salvias at my old house - I didn't know that there were groundcovering, low-growing Veronicas.

    I did see Wooly Thyme at the Maine gardens - that was a first for me, and it looked good (and felt even better). I don't mind pulling the occasional weed, but this summer - even with our record heat and a big drought - I'd come back from a week vacation and find the entire bed utterly overrun with weeds. If I can get this knocked back to an hour a week maintenance (without engaging in the Mulch Wars) I'm going to be really happy. I know that eventually, the daylilies will fill in, and I'll only have to concern myself with weeds that make it to 2 feet tall. :)

    Thanks for the great suggestions!

  • 16 years ago

    Sedum John Creech makes a very handsome ground cover and can tolerate considerable shade. The best thymes that I've found--and I've tried 8 or 10 different ones are the very flat ones from High Country Gardens. Occasionally I do have to pull them back from around perennials. I've never seen a single seedling.

  • 16 years ago

    Veronica Georgia Blue. I inherited this plant when we bought our home 10 years ago. This, along with the old Ditch Lilies, were the only flowering plants on a 40 year old property - 2/3 acre.

    I have managed to remove it from the gardens which I've created and it has nestled quite nicely in the lawn where today it covers an area 10 feet in diameter. In a Daylily garden? Sure! It would do well.

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