Fred, and anyone else who knows AV sizes. (S)

17 years ago

Hey Fred, where have you been?

Do you mind if I ask where you find descriptions/sizes of AV's? The reason I'm asking is, yesterday, I jotted down a complete list of all my Av's, those with names. My goal was to find sizes..Standard/Large, etc.

Went back to my first post, looking for names/sizes you so generously took time to type. But there are still some AV's I can't find, even after spending a couple hours browsing the 4 nurseries new AV's were purchased.

If you or anyone else can help I'd apprecaite it.

One other thing, there are a few violets listed on sites that were coined Standards. The problem is, you listed the same violets as Large. I'm confused. LOL.

There are only a few:

Midnight Valentine

Ness Orange Pekoe

Jean Pierre Croteau

Also, I've seen the term, 'Large Standard' named for a few violets..Is the name self-explanatory? Is a Large Standard a size somewhere between Standard and Large?

One other thing. Do you recall me mentioning a violet won on Ebay with letters/numbers written on the cup/pot? Someone said it sounded like an ID number, (of seller) not the name of the plant.

It read, CZ0499 on the pot/cup, in marker.

Ironically, while browsing Violet Gallery, sure enough, CZ0499 popped up as the name of violet. It's under Senks. Unfortunately, it couldn't be clicked to open picture.

Here are the violets I can't find descriptions/sizes and would apprecaite help:

Simpler Times

Blue is Blue

Evening Splender

Thanks so much..Toni

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birdsnblooms
Original Author
17 years ago
Sorry, the CZ0499 is under 'Wasps Varieties,' not 'Senks,' on VG. CZ0499 is a Semi Mini Trailer. Toni
m3rma1d
17 years ago
Here Toni, I am looking them up on my FC2 for you. Maybe you ought to think about buying a copy, it's a great software to have. You can buy it thru the AVSA site.

Midnight Valentine (7976) 10/08/1993 (S. Sorano) Double dark red star/white edge. Medium green, plain. Large

Ness' Orange Pekoe (D. Ness) Semidouble-double coral large pansy. Variegated dark green, pink and cream, scalloped/red back. Large

Jean-Pierre Croteau (7038) 01/09/1989 (D. Croteau) Single-semidouble dark purple/coral fantasy. Dark green, quilted, serrated. Large

Simpler Times (9193) 02/03/2003 (Lyndon Lyon Greenhouses/Sorano) Double dark blue large frilled star. Dark green, quilted, serrated. Standard

Blue Is Blue (7940) 10/08/1993 (S. Sorano) Semidouble-double medium blue star. Dark green, quilted, wavy/red back. Standard

Evening Splendor (9523) 12/17/2005 (Lyndon Lyon Greenhouses/P. Sorano) Semidouble-double dark blue large frilled star. Dark green, plain, quilted. Large
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m3rma1d
17 years ago
P.S. I am pretty sure that "Large Standard" means the same thing as "Large"
birdsnblooms
Original Author
17 years ago
M3, one more question. LOL
Thanks for the info on AV's.. It's jotted down.
I have a group of unnamed AV;s in 4" plastic pots bought locally. All are rootbound. Should I increase pot size or keep in the 4" pots? Thanks, Toni
m3rma1d
17 years ago
How big are the plants?
birdsnblooms
Original Author
17 years ago
IL had major electric, wind, rain storms yesterday/last night..I had to go outside, pick up felled plants..what a mess!!

Leaf diameter...7-12" across.
bspofford
17 years ago
Okay, Toni, you know the answer to this one! What's the formula again? It hasn't changed since the last ten times you asked the same question, LOL.

Barbara
birdsnblooms
Original Author
17 years ago
LOL Barbara..No actually I don't..Please let me explain.
I know the formula hasn't changed, but this whole 1/3rd thing is baffling and new to me.
Let's say an AV is 12" across. That would mean it goes in a 4" pot, right? Right. Which is the size most of my standard AV's are in. This is the problem. When I remove an Av from its 4" pot, the roots are so rootbound, when watered it runs right through..Do you understand what I mean?
Going up to a 5", if there's such a thing, (according to correct potting procedure) would be too large, right?
BTW, the plastic pots AV's are in, (older AV's (4-6+ yrs) are in pots they were purchased in.) have 4" rims but taper down, therefore, the rim is 4" but right below rim to bottom would probably be 3". You know how pots are shaped???
One other thing. With most plants, roots need room to grow. If a plant is extremely rootbound, chances of growth halts. Wouldn't that apply to 'Large' AV's, too? In other words, I'll use Tiger as an example. If Tiger is totally rootbound, would 'she' halt growing if her roots don't have room to grow? The same applies to fertilizer? Toni
bspofford
17 years ago
Toni, stay with the formula and prune some of the roots.

Barbara
irina_co
17 years ago
Tony -

if you want to grow a monster Tiger - you need to keep doing consistent repotting - every 6 months and disbudding. If you will do disbudding - all the energy will go into growth. If you let them bloom - the growth will slow down - and 12 inches diameter is plenty large to me, you just get it out of the pot, remove a row of old leaves, trim a rootball from the bottom - may be 1/2 inch, may be a bit more, add fresh soil on the bottom of the same size pot, ad fresh soil on the top = and off it goes to bloom and make me happy for another 6 months.

Extremely rootbound means it sits in this pot way too long.

Good luck - and huge Tiger to you

Irina