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I wish grocery store minis were named!

13 years ago

I just picked this one up at the new Trader Joe's here. Not too impressed with the store, but really like the miniature roses! This oe is a Poulson, maybe a Poulpah? Anyway, the flower that's wide open is about 2-1/4" across. It has a nice fragrance, too.

Comments (18)

  • 13 years ago

    Oh, that one is pretty! Great color and bloom shape. Are you going to put it into the ground? I've had fairly good success doing that with store-bought minis...

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  • 13 years ago

    Yes, it's going in the ground in a couple of days. It looks like a mini David Austin! I have another one that I put in the ground last year and it's doing fine, and third mini, don't remember where I got it, and it's doing really well, too.

  • 13 years ago

    If you go to HMF and put Poulpah in the search box you will come up with 51 entries. You might well be able to figure out which one you have by the pictures and descriptions, and most of them do have other names listed as synonyms.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Poupah search at HMF

  • 13 years ago

    I've seen that one at our local TJs and always want to get it, I love the color. The last one I got fried in the sun so I've been afraid to try another once since. :(

  • 13 years ago

    I may just have to run off to TJs and grab a few for some pots at my patio, next to some Goodwin Creek lavender (LOVE GC lavender...).

    You're in the same general area, so my TJ's might have it...

    Gonna look at that tomorrow. Just gorgeous little rose there! Thanks for sharing your pix!

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  • 13 years ago

    If you go to Poulson's site you may be able to locate it but it's very hard. The other problem is that they will interchange roses with names. So it could be any one of several that they've sold under the same name. I don't think they really care what rose they sell under any given name...as long as they sell!

  • 13 years ago

    Landlady, I went through that list yesterday, and couldn't find one that looked enough like it, I'm afraid. Doesn't matter, though - it's going into my bed pretty soon.

    Jenn, was yours in a pot? I have 2 minis in the ground and they're doing just fine.

  • 13 years ago

    I have had a 50% satisfaction rate with TJ's minis. Some continue to produce the same great flowers and some don't. It's not the plant not doing well in the yard, it's the color or petal count or repeat blooming that's the issue. The good part is there are usually a few rooted starts in one pot so you can split them out into several plants.

  • 13 years ago

    That's because of the difference in conditions, Kitty. Those little potted roses are bred and propagated in controlled greenhouse conditions. Then you bring it home and put it outside in totally different conditions and the rose performs completely different. And not all of them are minis either. Some of them are just small because of the conditions they've been grown in and when you get them home and plant them they turn out to be pretty good size roses instead of the mini you thought you bought.

    You have to remember that they actually breed and sell these to be throw away plants like a cut flower bouquet. They've probably never been tested in outdoor conditions. Most purchasers treat them that way too because they don't understand that they're regular roses and can be planted outside. I hear people in the stores all the time saying things like "Oh, look, a toy rose! Isn't it cute." They take it home, stick it in a window and throw some water at it occasionally (if it's lucky) and when it dies they toss it out. Which is exactly what the seller wants because then you'll come back and buy another one.

    I've had a few over the years. Some I did manage to ID others I never could. The best one I've had is my Isolde Hit rose that my brother got me one Valentine's Day. (I've trained him very well and he actually got it at a local nursery, so it was healthy, and with a name tag!) It's lasted 3 winters now and is growing and blooming very well. The others didn't winter well and dwindle away. But I've also found that the chances for survival are better if you don't try and split them up when you plant them. Every one that I tried splitting out and planting dies almost immediately from shock. Isolde I left as is and it thrived from the get go.

  • 13 years ago

    Check the tag and see if it says what nursery it is from. Por La Mar supplies a lot of mini roses. We have had good success for years in keeping them alive and happy (just planted 5 I got got .50 cents a couple of months ago-they were left over from a 4th of July grocery store promo) Por La Mar is a local, they do green house grow them. I can buy them more directly for about $3 at the farmers market.

  • 13 years ago

    I was able to find a few of the ones listed on the tag but not all, and I don't really know if it's a Parade or Patiohit, or if they just stuck this tag in there. It doesn't even have a nursery name.

    I suspect (and hope) that this is a mini that will get larger, because the leaves and blooms are larger than the ones that stay under 12" or so. I've seen some minis that get 3' tall. Someone in the local rose society told me that a rose is called a mini because the leaves and flowers are small, not because the plant stays small.

    I rescued a tiny mini from a grocery store last year, it was marked down to $1, and it's in a bed now and doing fine, even survived a lot of neglect, with grass growing over it. I've recently cleaned out that bed, and have fertilized and mulched the roses in it, and hope to see blooms soon. It hasn't grown more than an inch or so since I planted it, and probably won't.

  • 13 years ago

    Here's one I just love that came from TJs. Always worth the chance that you might get a great rose.

  • 13 years ago

    Here's another mystery mini from a supermarket at Valentine's Day

  • 13 years ago

    Kitty, those are gorgeous!

  • 13 years ago

    The photo looks like Mini-Flora "Flower Power" by Fryer. Take a look at the link below.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Flower Power Mini-Flora in HMF

  • 13 years ago

    That top one would ball and get mildew until I learned to move her around. I keep her in a pot and move her around depending on the time of year. When I put her in the ground, she either got too sick in winter or would fry in the heat of summer. So now I have her next to a south wall in winter and in morning only sun in summer. She lives by the front walk the rest of the year. She's a pampered starlet who likes to travel around. Reminds me of ladies who have their own jet and go where the weather's nicest.

    The bottom one is a no fuss rose that has a good repeat. I have to break off the old blooms but that's all.

    Every now and then a grocery store mini is a gem.

  • 13 years ago

    Even more mouth watering photos, kitty. It looks like more searches on HMF for me. Your starlet rose is incredible. I am jealous. I like my supermarket mini, but she doesn't compare to the fussy starlet. Diane

  • 13 years ago

    Wow the color of roses is so pretty.

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