Lydia,

You must not get frosts there, huh?! Nice plants - big and healthy. Do you have much trouble with aphids or mealies when you grow outside? Or critters nibbling on your plants? The 2nd set of pics, top photo - is that a variegated Dischidia oiantha? Oiantha is sure a vigorous grower, isn't it! It was my first Dischidia and I expected all Dischidias to be that easy - NOT!

Good growing!
Denise in Omaha

Actually, the ones that are in the ground already survived our first snow. I didn't even cover them. Everything else goes into my little greenhouse.

Yes, we get lots aphids & some mealies. Mostly on carnosas. I don't treat them or anything. They kinda just disappear then re-appear. I've never lost one to mealies or aphids though. But I have lost a few due to our hot weather.

I love that Dischidia. Thanks for the ID, I never knew what it was. Has yours bloomed for you? Mine hasn't & I've had it forever.

The Dischidia oiantha variegate shown is certainly a vigorous plant, and that is the name I have used for it, but there may be a problem. A couple of nurseries sell another extremely vigorous one with that name. It must be widely grown by Hoya growers (looks like a Hoya), has almost round leaves, perhaps lime green in color, leaves usually have a small notch at the apex, and is offered as D. oiantha. It will take an expert to get the names straight, but maybe flowers necessary.

Lydia's plant is a variegate, and the non-variegate form is similar in every way. I was told that it might be D. obovata or something related.

Nice photos and plants. Yale

Posting a photo of the round leaved Dischidia sold as D. oithona. Is this the right name for it, or for the variegated one in Lydia's photo? Yale
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by yales103

Hi, Lydia. Is meliflua planted in a pot near the ground in the arch? I'm trying to ID something, it was sold to me as meliflua something something, and I think I got the sticky end of the buyer stick.

I took your advice last year, we had been talking about ground planting, and you showed another area? sort of inclosed near your back door? Did I imagine this? Anyway, I ground planted pubicalyx and it is doing fantastic. Some of the biggest leaves I've ever seen on a hoya. I would show you pictures, but you wouldn't see anything. It is fighting up through a Duranta erecta, around a Snowbush breynia, and trying not to be strangled out by the passiflora. By Spring I ought to have enough growth to share pix of!

Thanks for the good ideas, though.

Oh, I'm looking for meliflua if anybody sees something they would like to trade for. I have a mess of bella...

Here is a close-up pic. Meliflua is the one with larger leaves.

The bloom also belongs to melifua.

Wow...Lydia, you must live in a warm section of Texas. My sister in San Antonio can't grow anything tropical outside in winter.
Your plants are amazing. I think I will need bigger supports after all. Ha Ha.
Hey, do you remember that NOID you sold on Ebay a couple years ago that looked like a H. verticillata (accuta)? Did you ever find out for sure what it was? I have it, but it has never bloomed so I still don't know. Ha. Plant looks GREAT though.

Marcy

Wow, Lydia! Thank you for posting that. I really am going to get more inspiration from that one picture.

I very much like the look of all of them growing together. I can visually ID (now) nearly all of them, which is NoID for you? I'm not gonna be able to tell you what it is, but I'm nosy like that.

I loved all the pictures of your garden, and your different hoyas and how you grow them. I also appreciate the ID help, too. Seems like I may have jumped my gun on calling the NoID a meliflua. Hmmm, off to study my notes and who shipped what when.

Thanks for that pic Yale. I guess mine is still a NOID :)

Cena, the noid is the same one Marcy is asking about. You can see it in the second photo, to the left of fungii (grey pot).

The other picture you're thinking of was the one of my huge kerrii right by my sliding door. Kerrii was in a pot and has since been repotted into a larger one & growing like crazy.

Lydia....your pics are great! I can't believe you can grow those outside like that. You sent me a piece of that dischidia a while back, still got it and it's growing well. Also got a variety pot of dischidia oiantha (variegated and regular) from the grower in Hawaii, and the variegated is exactly like the one you sent me (didn't realize it when I ordered it...lol). So I think that ID is correct. Don't suppose there would be any way to tempt a small piece of that reverse kerrii from you....lol. Been wanting that for awhile. Yours is gorgeous!

Cena....if you've got bella you're looking to unload...lol.... Mine didn't survive the move to TX and I've been trying to get some more for awhile. Don't have meliflua but I may have something else to offer.

Here's a pic of my obscura....biggest plant I have right now. It loves TX weather, had three seed pods earlier this summer and has almost 20 peduncles. Definitely a fave!

:) Kim

Here is a link that might be useful: obscura

Yale,

I took a piece of oiantha to Dr. Livshulz and she confirmed the ID, though she says the name isn't "official" until she publishes it. She actually had a differenat name on hers, but she said she favors the oiantha name and that will likely the one she'll stick with.

As for your round-leaved Dischidia, she gave me a cutting of a formosana that looks just like it, but it could also pass for geri. The difference to my untrained eye is only the size of the leaves. Formosana leaves are less than 1/2" at the widest point whereas geri leaves are a little over 1" at the widest. Both have the slight notch at the apex.

D. Geri...

D. formosana...
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Denise in Omaha

Denise,
Many thanks for getting answers to questions about those interesting Dischidia. Only one more question, and that concerns the common D. which has leaves shaped like D. oithona, but not variegate as in Lydia's photo. The non-variegate has thicker leaves, etc.; do you think this is D. oithona? Yale

Lydia...I'm new to this forum and pretty new to hoyas. It had never occured to me to grow them in the ground & I've never seen it done here in the land of the nematode. Are nematodes a problem for you or others that grow them in the ground?

Hi laura, a while back someone from Florida posted an awesome picture of Hoya pubicalyx climbing up their tree. The plant was HUGE & blooming too.

What do nematodes do to plants that are planted in the ground? I don't think we have any :/

Oh Lord! I found my old thread! I miss my plants!! Lol

Lol....I have been reading old old threads lately too. Took a long reprise from Hoyas and plants in general for a few years, but I still have many of my old ones, and recently acquired a few more. I guess I go through periods of re-obsession. Ha

did you eventually lose the plants due to cold Texas winters?

I lost them from neglect. I got sick and couldn't take care of them. My neighbor also cut his tree down durring that time and my plants toasted.....I was getting constant panic attacks. Even laughing would trigger one. Since then I've learned to deal and not panic :) I'm remarried and this hubby likes plants. When I can't tend to my plants he will. I have a great support system now ❤

Lydia....do you remember what that plant was in the 4th picture down, on the white table, at the front left corner? The one with the teeny tiny little leaves? It must be some Discidia or succulent or something. It's very cute whatever it is.

I looked online and found it under dischidia pebble beach. It was variegated.....I'm not sure but I think found that one at target many moons ago. They used to have a little garden aisle in the store back then.

Ah, ok. I thought it might be a dischidia of some kind. I also looked for and found some starts I have of that old noid you sent me years ago. They are just little now, but remind me in the spring and I'll send you one if you want. I think it may be a H. verticillata or accuta of some kind.

Oh yes! I would love a start of it! Thank you!