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Lots of 'Burned' Big Chinese Fan Palms Outdoors at Z7/8

17 years ago

Some landscaper or nursery has been planting big and I'm sure very expensive specimens of Livistonia chinensis here near the boundary of zones 7 and 8. We finally had a near normal winter (to ~15 F) after years of mild ones and those palms are completely brown. They may be fine in protected areas of Savannah or Charleston or Beaufort, but not 125 miles inland. I am sure there are a lot of disappointed or angry people.

Comments (11)

  • 17 years ago

    You can plant them in colder zones as dieback perennials. They will regrow in spring from the ground.

  • 17 years ago

    I would say they will die if they get burnt to the ground but if they grow back I would love to be proved wrong.Normally only suckering palms come back after a light freeze.

  • 17 years ago

    I agree david, chilensis will not grow back from the ground, possibly from the growing point not ground. Seems like a waste of money to me considering leaves get burned at around 24f

  • 17 years ago

    You can get them to come back,probably as far north as zone 5,if they are cut back to the ground and properly protected its already been done as far north as Ohio.
    They do grow back from the crown,how many years in a row you can do this is another story-

  • 17 years ago

    Trachyhead, they're talking about Chinesis, not Chilensis, although Chilensis is a hardier palm. Neither are suckering palms. Chinesis has proven to come back in northern zones as die back perennials not because it suckers, which it does not, but either because there are seeds that hadn't sprouted the previous growing season, and start to sprout the following spring. OR...the small palms are mulched so heavily that they don't die, just defoliate and regrow the following season. They do not sucker. This can't be done with large palms, only with small groups with multiple palms clumped into a single pot. They're just mulched heavily.

  • 17 years ago

    Even if they do grow back which takes eons . Why spend that kind of money on a tree you know is gonna burn anyways ?

  • 17 years ago

    sorry, typo, i know they were chinensis, now chilensis is a completely different beast

  • 17 years ago

    They are cheap palms and they are palms,there is a nice pic of some that regrew in Palms won't grow here and other myths.They are nice palms but I think this is the only way I would try them here

  • 17 years ago

    I was out in the Apopka/Zellwood area this past weekend and saw some partially and totally fried chinese fans. I was very surprised it got that cold even out there, I also saw some totally fried queen palms, and lots of dead pygmy dates.

  • 17 years ago

    Aren't queens hardy to like low 20s? I'm sorry if I offend anybody, but Chinese fans are ugly in my opinion. They look like a sick Robusta.

  • 17 years ago

    In Dothan AL I just saw 4 very mature Livenstonia Chinensis (12-15ft clear trunk) that saw temps near 20 and suffered about 80 percent leaf burn. The other 20 percent or so of the foliage is still nice and green. Apparently these get burned but are still a solid species for zone 8.

    Also, at my house I had a low of 19.8 and had two queens that had been in the ground over a year. Both of them were covered...both of them are now toast. I am replacing them with mule palms.

    Phoenix Canariensis, Phoenix Dactylifera, Trachys, Butia Capitatas had no damage at all.

    For some strange reason, my small Sabal Palmetto had a new spear coming out that fried and then pulled...I'm still trying to figure that one out.