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Smackdown! Dona F1 vs. Ramapo F1

15 years ago

Well, take it easy folks. Just kidding and looking for

attention. I have no need to smack anybody and certainly

not over which tomato variety they choose to like.

Anyway, I did have a chance last season to compare Dona F1

with Ramapo F1. This was a comparison that Carolyn suggested

and, as it turned out, a rather good suggestion at that

since the two are pretty similar. I apologize for not

reporting sooner but I've been away from the computer for

some time.

So, here goes:

The comparison was done late in the season (latter half

of September 2010) because of the difficulty in obtaining

the seeds for Dona F1, which I received only in mid May.

Shortly thereafter I germinated a couple and ended up

with one plant and one plant of Ramapo F1. All of the

Dona F1 seeds germinated readily (3 or 4 days) though

all were "helmet-heads", i.e. the outer seed case

remained stuck to the cotyledons. Through carelessness

in separating that, I lost two of them.

Also, last season I had an infestation of Late Blight

which destroyed a Moreton F1 plant that I had hoped also

to compare. By extensive spraying with Daconyl and

copper soap I was able to keep this under reasonable

control and obtain a harvest. Both the Dona F1 and Ramapo

F1 plants (one of each) were relatively free of disease

and produced good fruit by the end of August.

Best production was in mid to late September. Dona F1

is earlier than Ramapo F1 by about a week to ten days.

Other than that, the plants are very similar - regular

leaf, vigorous, etc. I lack the technical knowledge to

provide much more of a description for now.

The fruits are also very similar, being almost identical

in shape, nice and round, relatively large when grown in

good soil and slightly flattened. Dona F1 is slightly

more orange in color than Ramapo F1.

Now the taste test. After sampling a few fruits of each

in a fairly casual manner, I was able to get a good

sample of quality fruit from each plant, ripe at the

same time, two of each. These were sliced and placed on

separate plates. No attempt at double-blind or anything

like that. Tasting was done (I'm the one, results are

at my discretion alone.) with and without any dressing

(salt, vinegar, oil).

Both Dona F1 and Ramapo F1 are relatively mild in flavor.

Neither one possesses a blow-the-top-off-your-head

intensity of taste. So, if you like that, and I do

sometimes, neither one of these is, as the Irish would

say, your only man. Both however, are well-flavored,

not bland and very fine salad or slicing tomatoes. Both

of them outclass such varieties as Early Girl, Big Boy,

Celebrity, etc. by a country mile.

Ramapo F1 had a plain and simple tomato flavor. No

complexity there at all. I like it as many others will.

Dona F1 is much more complex and subtle. It possesses

numerous overtones of flavor that, in my opinion, would

require the techniques of a wine-taster to evaluate

fully. I am not that person, so I can't provide that

sort of analysis. Overall, though, my conclusion is

that Dona F1 is superior in taste to Ramapo F1 for

its subtlety.

So there! That's what I think. Take it as you wish.

To finish up this commentary, I still have seeds and

intend to repeat the trial again this year. I will

grow more Dona F1 though as I prefer it. I'm also

hoping to get a good Moreton F1 plant for further

comparison and to have more people to help with tasting.

Anyone who has suggestions for what characteristics to

look for this time or for improvements in the description

is welcome to add their comments. I will try to take

any of them into consideration. Please bear in mind

though, that I am one person, no longer young and

probably can't satisfy everyone's wishes. In that light,

I encourage any readers of this piece to conduct their

own trial comparisons and report the results.

Finally, please remember - it is Dona F1 hybrid and

anything else being sold under the name of Dona is not

the same. Like those or not, as you will, but they are

not the same.

Thanks for reading.

Comments (4)

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    If you want to do it up right why not plant all of the following ones this season b'c all of them are hybrids and all were some of the earliest hybrids released to the public and I still think the Harris bred ones have some of the best tastes around, when referring to hybrids only.

    Dona F1 seeds which you aren't selling LOL
    Ramapo F1
    Moreton Hybrid
    Supersonic F1
    Jet Star F1

    ..... the last three being the Harris bred ones, Ramapo F1 by Rutger's U and Dona F1 allegedly by Vilmorin ( wink)

    Carolyn

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Well, Carolyn, I appreciate the suggestion and would like
    to do that but, I'm sure you understand there are limits
    on time and ability, etc. I've noticed in some of the
    earlier threads your mention of these varieties and
    probably should try them. Unfortunately for now I'm
    limited to at most a dozen plants and will have to
    keep it to known favorites and a couple of trials. I
    expect to compare Ramapo F1 again and Moreton. So that's
    two from your list. The others go on the waiting list.

    I have a good garden spot but it gets a little more
    shade than I like for tomatoes so the big project for
    this year is to fell and clean up two large pine trees.
    (25" diam and 60' to 70' tall) That will keep me busy for
    a while (grin).

    By the way, I don't have a particular thing for hybrids
    as against OP. I generally grow some of each to put the
    ones I most like on the table. As to selling seeds; I'm
    not doing that only because I don't wish to make it a
    business. That said, I do now have enough of Dona F1
    that I would be happy to share a few with you should
    you be interested in that. (not a general offer) Just
    think; you could conduct your own Dona F1 vs. Ramapo F1
    trial and arrive at the revealed truth!

    Please be assured that having grown Dona F1 for a little
    over ten years now, I'm still in love. All the same, if
    I found one better, I wouldn't hesitate to throw her
    over and take up with the new hot tomato. (wink)

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I certainly understand being limited with growing room and time, etc. Ever since I fell on Dec 12th, 2004 and severed all four quads in my right leg I've had to use a walker since then and will in the future.

    So no more growing several hundreds of plants and varieties each season for me. I can grow a max of 36 plants in the back yard in gro-bags but my plants are raised for me by my best tomato buddy, Craig LeHoullier in Raleigh, and he ships them up to me and Freda, who cleans here also does all the outside garden work as well. And for the lastmonth has been shoveling LOTS of snow off the deck. I have a snowplow man and he's good, but there are obviously places he can't plow here, and heaven help me when I gget his bill b'c I may have to cut back on my dark bittersweet chocolate budget. LOL

    So what I'm saying is that right now I've got to make some HUGE decisons myself as to what seed to send to Craig b'c I've been sent quite a few never before distributed seed ones, and that's what I look for these days since I can grow so few.

    So I'll try to remember your generous offer but I know I can't fit it in this year.

    I can't remember if you have my e-mail address either.

    Carolyn

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    No, I don't but I'm quite sure I can always find you on one or another forum. Grow on!

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