I grew White Wonder last year, from seed purchased at Tomatobob.com. In my opinion, you're not missing out on much...it was a sweet tomato, but very mild, and lacking in tomato flavor. It seriously had little to no tomato flavor and the texture wasn't as firm as I like a beefsteak to be.

That said, I also grew Great White from seed, also from Tomatobob.com. Two plants put out two completely different fruit. One set yellow cherries, and the other set red-orange mealy plum tomatoes. After more research, I found that Great White had more flavor than White Wonder. And my Great Whites weren't the real thing, or even close.

If you want to have another go at white tomatoes next year, try White Queen. I haven't tried it, but I've heard that it's the best-tasting and whitest of all the white tomatoes.

I haven't grown any whites this year because of how disappointed I was with last year's White Wonders and faux Great Whites. Maybe sometime in the future I'll give White Queen a try...

I was waiting for an oaxacan jewel but got an unknown red heart. :(

Oh ya I had that experience this year. Thought I was growing Theinamans Aus. Heart this year and walla there was a red ribbed beefsteak of some sort, very disapointing.

And then there was what I thought was Sara Galapogos...........ah what the heck, ya I feel your pain dude!

Damon

You aren't missing much.

Tomato Growers Supply and Baker Creek seem to be the best sources for White Queen seeds.

catman529, wow, that must have sucked hard to have grown TWO plants from seed only to have them both be something else. Harsh.

So this White Queen sounds good- I'll definitely try it next year!

I'm very pleased with Baker Creek. Everything I ordered from them germinated at around 96-98% and are growing like madcakes, except the White Wonder cucumber. Must be a bad year for albino fruit :(. And I was going to try growing some white carrots....

I haven't had that problem with tomatoes, but I plant 12 hills of Costa Romanesco Squash this year. I really love the crunch texture and flavor. No one else grows these at our markets and I can really sell them. However, when they started to set squash, I could clearly tell they were not what I wanted. They were closer to a Cocazel. They taste ok, but not great. After contacting the company, they said they had reports from several other people too. I am really upset that I lost out of a lot of $$ from this screw up not to mention eating!

So this White Queen sounds good- I'll definitely try it next year!

*****

Good is relative. LOL

I'm the one who has been saying that White Queen is the whitest and best tasting so called white I've grown, as someone above said, but the so called whites as a group do NOT have much tste at all, but if it's a white that you really want to grow, then go to it. LOL

The information about White Queen at Baker Creek is not correct, specifically, it is an older commercial variety that was first listed in the 1941 Earl May catalog and I got it from the USDA when that was still possible and listed it in the SSE YEarbook back in 1995. And yes, Jere at BC knows the info is not correct as he originally got the info from someolne else who was also wrong. ( smile)

The degree of whiteness is dependent on the specific variety, the degree of foliage cover and the degree of UV.

I consider most of the larger fruited ones to be novelty varieties and not to be grown for taste, rather, just to grow one once to experience one. Just my opinion.

Carolyn

White Queen was ok relative to other white tomatoes. If one sucks out the gel around the seeds and throws away the rest there is something partially interesting there. otherwise they are just bland.

Since it lacks the sweet listerine like sensation it's still 2 grades above a Green Doctors.

Mmmmmmmm.....listerine!

Don't waste you space.

I grew the Snowball (White Wonder?) last year and though they do tend to turn yellow when 100 percent ripe, their juice is still mostly white. Didn't care for the taste of the mater all that much but I grew it for the juice - wanted to make white chili. It did good at that, but it simply was not productive enough to deserve space this year.

Growing from seed doesn't always guarantee you will get what you hoped! I ordered Belgium Giant last year from TomatoGrowers.com. Not sure what I got, but the maters never got over about 22 ounces and the juice was a pale pumpkin in color, not a deep red.

I do give Kudos to Randel at Baker Creek. Like most seed dealers, he gets lots of his seeds from a seed grower and they do not every once in a great while do not turn out true, but he pulls them in a hurry. He has even sent me extra seeds when some I bought didn't germinate right. Not his fault - the flowers are hard for pros to grow.

Mike

mulio- This is like the umpteenth time we have heard you state that you dont dig Green Doctors. We get dude, really, we do. Me? I'll take Green Doctors over Green Grape any day of the week. Thank you very much!

Damon

I'm another one who will have to admit to not caring much for White Wonder, or White Queen. They were just too bland, and not enough like a tomato, taste wise. They were however some better than winter cardboard tomatoes, but just because they were juicier.

Sue

I am growing Italian Ice A white cherry tomato. (really pale yellow) It is good, but very mild. Especially, compared to the other cherries, which explode with flavor.

"Me? I'll take Green Doctors over Green Grape any day of the week. Thank you very much!"

Me? I'd rather eat a hornworm than green grape, so that ain't sayin much. I guess we'll just hafta continue to hear how much GD sux.

Listerine is meant to be put it in your mouth and spit it out.

Actually knowing human nature, and especially American culture, the more I talk about it the more people are likely to want to try it. So have at it, Ashton is awaiting.

I can hear the surfer dude of TMZ "So like we have camera shots of Paris Hilton at this supposedly trendy Manhattan restaurant started by some lady to sell picture books and try to get into the society pages. Paris orders this heinous 'Green Doctors Bruschetta' stuff, takes a bite and when she thinks no one is looking spits it out into her napkin and stuffs it into the person behind her's purse!"

I can't wait for Ashton Kuscher to finally jump out from behind the curtain and tell people

I bought almost all my seeds from Baker creek this year. The pink pearls are the most massive producers I have ever grown, although I havent really grown much, this summer and last summer were the first time I had my own place to try and grow, but they dont taste as good as they produce, they are good, but for as many tomatoes as I am getting, giving away, and throwing away, it would be nice if they were super! My squash from them did great, but I think powdery mildew has finally done in most of them, except the golden zuccs which I started later, and are far away from the green zuccs, and other squashes. but back to toms, I planted, WAY late, carbons and cherokee purples I bought from them, transplanted them when they were very tiny, we had no rain and horrid hot weather all of June, of 17 plants I think I have 11 left, but they sure tried! as badly as I treated them, and still coninue to, ( I dont fertilize, and they get watered when it rains) I cant believe how they are growing, and they have tons of flowers, and pretty fair amount of toms on them, some getting big. Unfortunately I thought they were all CP's. so planted all in one spot, then turned my container around and realized one side of my box was CP's and one side was carbons, so we'll see what I ended up with, although I am not usre what either really looks like:) My Striped Romans and Purple russians I bought from Baker Creek were decimated by early bad weather, but started to come back, then one night deer or something came in and pretty much decimated them again!! I almost cried. amazingly enough they are coming back, whats left of them, and even some some baby romans, ( 2 left of 6 plants after the raid) and even the purple russians are trying to make fruit. I think Baker Creek must sell some pretty sturdy seeds!! I have put mine through hell, and they are still making something for me to eat later! AND, I planted Grerat Whites from baker creek also, from seeds, they looked awful at first but now I have little baby great whites! or after reading these posts, who know?? I havent read much good about any of the white tomaotes flavor since I planted them, but like others, I just wanted to see one! So I hope these give me something, and really turn out to be white! They are next to the white habanero, so they know what to do hopefully1

I like Great White. Sure, it is relatively bland, but not any more so than Yellow Pear, which alot of people like, and it gives me several fruits over 2 lbs per plant, the largest in the garden. I mix it with Limmony to make a tangy "white" tomato sauce.

I have been plagued by stray seed, crossed seed, and wrong seed in seeds from Tomatofest. I grew out some good 'wrong' things from them though, and a few duds. I found yet another wrong one this year from the old packs.

I have been plagued by stray seed, crossed seed, and wrong seed in seeds from Tomatofest. I grew out some good 'wrong' things from them though, and a few duds. I found yet another wrong one this year from the old packs.

That's interesting, I have had some of those problems with seeds from Tomatobob.com. Both last year and this year, I've had some wrong varieties (my two Delicious plants, for example, put out two different shaped and different sized, red insipid-tasting fruits)

I gave up on anything doing what it was supposed to this year. The only rip om I've had is my Mystery Grapes, and I've only gotten seven of them. The stupid deer took a bunch of green toms; if I see them in the yard they'll be dinner. We've had so much rain (which I AM thankful for...) that wqeeding, harvesting, cleaning up, or mowing CAN'T be done. The melons are doing nicely though. Melons can't be canned or keep me fed though. *sigh*

Abby

Unfortunately I thought they were all CP's. so planted all in one spot, then turned my container around and realized one side of my box was CP's and one side was carbons, so we'll see what I ended up with, although I am not usre what either really looks like

walaa, when they're ripe you can tell which is which by the skin color. Cherokee Purples have clear skin, and Carbons have yellow skin. [You'll see the same difference with pinks (clear skin) and reds (yellow skin).]

I hope these give me something, and really turn out to be white! They are next to the white habanero, so they know what to do hopefully

Is the whole garden arranged by color? *lol*

The melons are doing nicely though. Melons can't be canned or keep me fed though.

Abby, strange as it may seem, watermelon can be dehydrated. Cantaloupe and honeydew melon also; I don't know if it's true for all melons.