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For FF users who like older versions

11 years ago

I do not like the new versions of FF and I know I can use Classic Toolbar Restorer, but I still like V28. I have downloaded it 3 times and set the updates to never. It always reverts to 29 then 33 and beta channel. I found a thread in FF where posters were really angry about this. The original poster asked if he could have to versions of FF on his computer at the same time. His thinking was to have V28 installed in a different folder, leaving the newer version installed in programs. Well the FF adviser would not answer his question just carried on about it's not safe to use older versions. Others were angry about them updating when it was set to never, really angry. Finally the orig poster said "will you answer my question" and the rep said you could have 2. He said he was just a volunteer not a developer. LOL Finally at the end of the thread a notice was posted that if the posters did not stick to the topic they would be redirected.

Having 2 versions on the PC is working for me....for now.

Comments (9)

  • PRO
    11 years ago

    I'm wondering why FF updated even when it's been chosen to not update.
    If it's going to beta, it sounds like you may have originally
    downloaded a beta version, which may function differently.

    Indeed it's true that the later versions fix many bugs and security issues, so in general it's better to update - but you already know that.

    But I'm just curious . . . what it is that you don't like with the later versions ?
    Myself, I didn't like the new interface either and installed "Classic Theme Restorer" (what you're referring to ??), then monkeyed around a bit with the settings, and now I'm back to the look and feel I like.

  • 11 years ago

    I guess it is just that they update even though we say not to, why put the option if we can't use it. It makes me want to find a way to keep what I want. They also put me on the beta channel without asking me, I downloaded a release version and it updated to a beta again. I used the restorer for awhile, but V28 is much simpler and I know someone using of the very old versions and he has never had a problem with security issues regarding FF. Another thing I don't like is gone now but I found out how to stop it before they removed it. It was the game snippet on the FF home page. It enlarged the FF icon and it was blurry. I lot of posters in FF wanted it stopped and they told them how to stop it. I stopped mine.

    The last windows update wiped out my MS Office folders and did something to Libre, neither worked. I reformatted and stopped all updates. I read on MS that they over ride those setting when it is necessary. When I downloaded MS Essentials for the email, MS over rode my settings to download the updates that Essentials needed to work. That is fine with me. They did not download the 168 I am suppose to install, but will not. Stubborn rebel I guess is the words for me, making up for being a mouse all of my life.

  • 11 years ago

    I've been using Firefox since longer than I can remember, and a beta version has never been pushed to me. Auto-updates to release versions, yes. Beta versions, no (I am not subscribed to the beta channel and have never been forced to it).

    Regards to browser security, there's a newly discovered vulnerability in the SSLv3 protocol -- POODLE is the acronym. It's a combination of browser and server. SSLv3 was superseded some while ago by TLS, but many servers are still running SSLv3 (along with TLS). A secure browser connection that starts on TLS can be tricked into downgrading to SSL 3.0 (if the connecting server still supports it), and a hacker can intercept bits of the data flow when that happens. The expectation is that SSL 3.0 will not be patched since it's considered outdated. Servers that are running it will (should) soon be reconfigured to no longer support it. Users who are running old browsers that don't support TLS will no longer be able to connect to secure sites such as online banking or shopping after servers no longer support SSLv3.

    The recommended defense until servers are fixed to to eliminate SSLv3 is for users to set their browser to not allow SSL 3.0 connections (minimum TLSv1). If your old browser of choice (or requirement) doesn't support TLS then you're stuck being susceptible, and will be out-of-luck when SSLv3 is fully redacted.

    IE6 , for example, supports TLSv1 but the option is not enabled by default, it must be manually turned on. (TLS is currently up to v3, which IE6 does not support past TLSv1.)

    Test your browser

  • PRO
    11 years ago

    Interesting.
    You might even want to make a separate post about that.

    I did a little reading, specifically on :

    https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2014/10/14/the-poodle-attack-and-the-end-of-ssl-3-0/

    Of note :

    " only 0.3% of transactions actually use SSLv3. Though almost all websites allow connections with SSLv3 to support old browsers, it is rarely used, since there are very few browsers that donâÂÂt support newer versions of TLS."

    and

    "SSLv3 will be disabled by default in Firefox 34, which will be released on Nov 25." - only 3 weeks away.

  • 11 years ago

    I did not ask for the beta channel and could not stop it. No matter what I did I got it, maybe this was a random thing and it's not done to everyone. FF forums tell you how to get out of it by installing a release version and I did that, I still got the beta channel before the day was over and I had my settings to never update in an effort to stop it.

  • 11 years ago

    As for Firefox wanting to upgrade to beta...

    From: http://superuser.com/questions/292103/how-to-get-firefox-to-stop-asking-me-to-upgrade


    Switch your Firefox to the "release" channel:

    • Type about:config in the URL bar and hit Enter
    • Confirm the question that you will be careful
    • enter app.update.channel in the search field right below the address bar
    • reset the value of app.update.channel to "release"



    Not sure if that helps or not.



    ============
    Personally, I don't like Australis either, so also use Classic Theme Restorer. That and a smidgeon of "userChrome.css".

    This is version 33.0.2 in Windows:
    {{gwi:2105000}}

    That's just the look I like though, clean and easy on my tired old eyes, others would surely find it BORING. :)

  • PRO
    11 years ago

    Nice.
    That's pretty much what my FF looks like - simple and clean.

    Are you using BBCode for the inline images and formatting in your post ?

  • 11 years ago

    Are you using BBCode for the inline images and formatting in your post ?

    Actually, it's HTML and a little in-line CSS.
    The code for the above image looks like this:

    <a href="http://chuggerguy.com/pub/forumphotos/images/firefoxWindows.png"; target="_blank"><img style="border:5px black solid;" title="Click to view full sized image." src="http://chuggerguy.com/pub/forumphotos/images/firefoxWindows_thumb.jpg"></a>;

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    I like to tinker so host my own images.

    With a great deal of help from Google, I put together this upload script (PHP). I'm not a programmer so I'm sure it could be done more efficiently. It's very basic, written with only my own needs in mind. But it works: My image upload script in text format. If you'd like to see how it works: My uploader

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    The way Gardenweb looks in the image above is accomplished with the addon Stylish and this userstyle.

  • 11 years ago

    I like simple set ups and set my home page to FF's home page. I don't like pages like yahoo, with my cities events, weather and news on it. I didn't like WLM until I learn to condense it down to the quick access bar, the same with Word documents. They have a 2 inch tool bar on top and I never use anything except the basics. I condense my FF toolbar to one line when I can. My latest desktop wallpaper.

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