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keeping original oak cabinets and mixing granite/other surfaces

16 years ago

So here is my outdated kitchen. After much deliberation, Ive decided to do only a minor renovation, considering budget and neighborhood.

Thanks to all your ideas, I will be taking all clutter off cabinet tops, adding crown molding, redoing window treatments, ALL new hardware (sink, cabinet knobs/pulls, 3 pendants over island, new chandelier), new ss appliances, fixing the fridge/cabinet not-flush discrepancy, new flooring, travetine backsplash, and new counters. Will strip and stain cabinets if needed.

And thanks to busybme for her fabulous idea of enlarging the island, and her photoshopping skills, the general idea is to make it like this pic below. I will put beadboard to match the cabinets under the new island and with the new space, on each side will be garbage pull out cabinets with footpedal (notice busybme even added in the other updates I'd described!):

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I saw this photo on the finished kitchens blog, where they kept the original oak cabinets like ours, and it was very helpful in deciding to keep our oak kitchen cabinets. I know it's not popular, but I like the look. It "feels like home" to me. Does anyone else have any photos where they kept their original oak cabinets in their reno?

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So here are my questions:

1.Do my planned updates sound OK? Will they help in updating the look? Do they sound from description like they would improve it?

2.Do our cabinets look as good as the ones in the bottom pic? (I donÂt want them to be ramshackle and I am just not seeing it cause I am used to them!) The doors are secured well and the finish is pretty good. As talked about on another thread, I don't want to end up putting lipstick on a pig by putting granite over really outdated cabinets!) One option I've really been considering is putting granite (slab) on just my island, and something else on the counter behind it. That way it would be cheaper, and I also wouldn't be TOO committed if 5-10 yrs down the line I do want to change out cabinets, I won't have an entire kitchen locked down with granite. I can deal with the island being locked down. Tearing out one slab isn't the end of the earth should it ever come to that! So can I pull off granite mixed with something else? If so, what? The idea would be to go cheaper than granite and as durable as possible. Can I do Formica? I don't like how I can't cut or put hot pots on it, but are there really any other inexpensive options? I would like to go dark for both the granite and the counter behind it. I wouldn't mind at all if the counter behind it is really boring and solid color in comparison to the granite. Is that best? I definately want some black in granite for sure. What colors of granite hold up best to water since the sink is there? Is it possible I would end up creating a beautiful granite island with an obviously cheaper backdrop that looks mismatched? Can anyone show me pics of their granite and formica (or something else) combo?

3. Lastly, do you have to have a certain "type" of house to have a stainless steel farmhouse sink? I really want one, but my house was built in 1998 - not exactly a farmhouse? From the pics, can I pull of that style sink?


Comments (14)

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I think your plan sounds great. Your cabinets look good to me and not really outdated with the simple style. They do need hardware, however and I would stick with mostly pulls, rather than the knobs that are in the mock up. Pulls add more interest, I think.

    If you decide to freshen them up more, I would look into gel stains, which you can apply without a lot of stripping, but they look fine as is to me.

    I personally like all counters to match but lots of people put granite on their islands and something else on perimeter. It's very fashionable to do that lately. I would go for a laminate there for the reasons you state. Butcher block would be an alternative, but wouldn't give enough contrast, imo. Since you can't cut or put hot pans on a corian like surface either, stick with a formica to save the money.

    Yours is one of the kitchens I would say that could greatly benefit from a backsplash....great idea.

    Have you considered painting the walls? I think I would do that.

    Good luck!

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    The beauty of a stainless steel farm sink is that you can make it fit into any decor, tradtional, contemporary or even period. It would look great in your kitchen. Kohler makes a very nice, reasonably priced stainless apron sink. Take a look at the kitchen in the link below. It's really nice. There's one that's even less expensive made by Schon but the interior width is only 14" which I thought was a bit narrow.

    Your cabinets look great but I agree that they need hardware and I like the pulls better too.

    I wouldn't mix laminate with granite. I'd be afraid it will end up looking like you couldn't afford to redo all of the counters. How good are you at DIY? Could you possibly fabricate stainless counters for the perimeter (I have no idea how difficult this is; just throwing it out there)? Or butcher block on the perimeter, something really dark perhaps? Maybe you could find some granite remnants that would be big enough to do your perimeter (or some prefab pieces), and put a contrasting stone on the island.

    Kohler

    Schon

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    You have put together a great plan. And the execution shouldn't be too painful either.

    Do you plan to get all new cabinets for the island? A farmhouse sink takes a different type of sink base:

    Actually, I thought most farmhouse sink bases were made with extra supoort in the front, but maybe I'm wrong. Hopefully someone who knows will clarify this.

    Jessie's idea of the gel stain is a good one, if you want to darken your cabinets. I'll bet you could scuff them up with a little sand paper, then wipe on the gel for a whole new look. Be sure to test this on an extra or hidden door though, so that you can get the technique down before moving on to the kitchen.

    Have you checked out Ikea butcher block for your perimeter cabinets? Not too expensive and, if you got it in a color that was darker or lighter than your cabinets it would look great!

    Shop for remnant pieces of granite for your island...you can get a deal. Also, were you the one who had a friend with extra granite tiles? Maybe use those for the perimeter. Just some random thoughts.

    Can't wait to see you get started! It can be gorgeous when you are done.

    Sandy

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    We did a minor update at our weekend lake place and kept the original oak cabinets. I like oak cabinets too and mine were in pretty good shape and very functional with pullouts, etc. We got new counters, cabinet hardware and appliances and a short tile backsplash - wood ceiling since it's a "cabin" and we painted. I'm quite happy with the results. Here are a couple pics.

    BEFORE

    AFTER

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I don't have any good up to date photos of my kitchen which is (shudder) STILL a work in progress, but to summarize- I did keep my oak cabinets (I loved them when I picked them out in 1990 and I still love them.)... removed soffits, added crown molding, changed hardware, changed countertops to dark granite, added pendant lighting, and did a tile backsplsh(porcelain tile but it looks like travertine). I am waiting on undercab lighting and the BIG wait is figuring out wall color.
    I will try to find a pic or two but they really dont do it justice, it looks much better in person. honestly.Oh and I think we may have the same range and microwave.
    I am a big believer in updating and not ripping out if it will work. I think this will be more common thanks to the economy and I think it is wonderful...
    Didnt want this thread to fall off. If I can locate even a lousy pic I will post it later.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I am linking this thread here- which is an ASTOUNDINGLY brilliant reno that did re-use the cabinets(althoug painted) and has different counter surfaces.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Here's a link to my redone kitchen. I kept oak cabinets, flooring, light fixtures, copper hood and appliances. Replaced countertop, sink, faucet, backsplash, took down wallpaper, etc. I have since replaced light fixtues also, but no photo. I will be replacing frig in the near future with counter depth model.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    jstell - we can't link to your photos without a password. If you can post, I'd love to see them as I consider doing something similar.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    We did a 'facelift' keeping our cabinet boxes (a very solid oak) but having new doors/drawers made, painting the boxes, and adding crown molding. No change in the layout; cosmetics only. I am going to TRY to post pictures but this will be first time so bear with me!!

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Sorry, use the password jstell2008 That should get you into the pictures. If not, let me know.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    jstell--love the countertop! Is it granite or marble? Great looking kitchen update.
    Thanks-

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    It's jungle granite. I love it and it goes really well with copper, if you love copper. Lots of people think it's marble.. I'm on my ipod. Hard to type. Let me know if you have more questions.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    It's jungle granite. I love it and it goes really well with copper, if you love copper. Lots of people think it's marble.. I'm on my ipod. Hard to type. Let me know if you have more questions.