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Bosch Nexxt 500 washer- Gild off Lily in 87 days?

19 years ago

I thought I loved this machine. Inspite of water pooling in the drum (in the 2nd week of ownership) after sitting overnight, not immediately at end of load. I went back to Lowes(where purchased) & salesmen told me to pull drain hose back several inches as problem was caused by hose being too far in drain. Water did not pool again - until 2 weeks ago. I came home (work takes me out of town) & found water, several inches, pooled in the back of the drum. I used the "drain" setting to evacuate the drum - worked fine & proceeded to wash work clothes, mopped out gasket & left door ajar (paranoid about mildew after Maytag Neptune hooror). When DH came home from his out of town trip I asked him to check washer & sure enough, the drum had several inches of water accumulated in the back. I need to add that when I last ran clothes I had pulled the drain hose out further, causing water to spill in my laundry room (guess the hose being too far down the drain was NOT the problem, eh?).

DH called Lowes service (yes we have bought the extended warranty), was routed to Bosch & told to " run a cold wash with only fabric softener with no clothes & then run a regular load & call Lowes for a replacement if that doesn't work". It did not work (big suprise as we never had any "suds lock" indicator & assiduously use 1T Sears HE a load (measured with a tablespoon formerly used for cooking).

When I returned to town today I called Lowes service, was directed to Bosch & told that a service call would fix this because it had to do with poor installation of the machine. When I asked about leveling and proper drain placement I was told the service call had to be performed but that it is not a mechanical problem with the machine. Then I was given an authorization # & told I was would be contacted by service peron (young Appliance). I asked for Young Appliance telephone number & after completing interaction with Bosch service person, tried to call Young Appliance. It turns out the number was incorrect (good thing I called). I called Bosch back & got another number - of course only voice mail is available.

My question (as I sit here with dirty laundry that needs to be done before I leave town again tomorrow night for work) is: Why would this water accumulate after several days? The clothes come out very well spun & nearly dry & the drum is also dry until 1-2 days (sometimes as quick as overnight) after a load is run. This situation leaves me a set up for the dreaded mold/mildew I suffered with before (DO NOT WANT THAT). I am feeling bad about this purchase - wishing I had gotten the low-end Frigidaire I have at the beach which has run like a cham p for almost years now. Is the Bosch really like owning a FIAT? Any advice would be appreciated as 90 day period is up next week. Thanks, sigh...

Comments (8)

  • 19 years ago

    addendum - that should read "which has run like a champ for almost 6 years now" - about the Frigidaire FL.

  • 19 years ago

    addendum - that should read "which has run like a champ for almost 6 years now" - about the Frigidaire FL.

  • 19 years ago

    update - repairman over the phone believes the problem is failing valves which are supposed to prevent fresh hot/cold water from entering washer. He is ordering these partsw from Teaxs & will call me next week to install. In the meantime, we will use machine but turn off intake water (have a nice shutoff valve to do this with) & watch to see if water reaccumulates in the drum.

    Interestingly, the repairman noted this is an uncommon problem to see in a new machine but not uncommon to see in a 5 to 7 yo machine (hmm, how long is that extended warranty?). Will definately ask him to give estimate on cost for this when not under warranty. Here's to hoping a couple of things: 1. this is, in fact, the problem; 2. the machine will be a reliable nonmildewing nonwatercollecting workhorse (still fretting about not getting another low-end Frigidaire...)

  • 19 years ago

    Valves are a 'consumable' in any plumbed-in device. Feed valve life can be extended if you shut the water tap off between uses (as Bosch says to do in the manual!), though unless your water pressure is unusually high that should not normally be necessary. (If your water pressure *is* high, you can buy a flow limiter to put on the cold water tap for around $30.) Valve failure in 3 months is ridiculous.

    I doubt water will pool if you have it shut off at the feed, but that won't really tell you if the valves are the only problem.

    If the repair does not solve your problem, keep after Bosch, and if customer service gives you the run around ask how you can elevate the service request ("elevate" is often a trigger word in the service world, means you move up to a customer service person with actual authority). I think the reason all the appliance companies make service calls so difficult is that 95% of all problems are user error (not in your case!), and if a repairman was dispatched for every one then machines would cost twice as much to cover the cost of the unnecessary service visits.

    BTW, FIATs are actually very well-constructed cars, even the model (128 ) which gave them such a bad reputation in the US; it was service that killed them here. Appliance companies can learn a lesson from this! - DR

  • 19 years ago

    thank you for your response Dross. It is just so frustrating to fork out for a major appliance (after performing exhaustive due diligence research) & have weirdo malfunctions. If you can hypothesize any other etiologies of pooling water in the drum I would love to hear them. We do use the shutoff valve when gone for longer periods of time but have not used it when gone for a week or less (guess we will start now!).

    The high water pressure issue is somewhat more concerning for us as we do not have the hot water heater to indicate the water pressure coming in from the water main is too high (on-demand gas tankless now). This could cause a whole nother panoply of problems that just makes my head ache to even think of....

  • 19 years ago

    It's pretty easy to check your water pressure. Buy a water pressure gauge from home depot for $10, locate the hose bib where the water enters your house from outside (i.e. where your house shutoff valve is), screw the gauge on, and turn on the water all the way. I believe typical pressure for residential should not exceed 60psi or so. Pressure may vary throughout the day. You could also use the gauge on the bibs for the laundry water supply, but it could be a bit messy as water might spray a bit (and you'd get a pressure reading for the laundry room, not at the point of supply for the whole house).

  • 19 years ago

    Yes, this sounds like a malfunction. I bet the service call will take care of the problem.

    A Bosch washer is less like a FIAT and more like an Audi. Still a machine that can have failures from time to time.

    Good luck!

  • 19 years ago

    Water has pooled twice in ours. I heard it the first time. It hasn't for about a month. However, the repairman is coming in a couple days to fix a plastic piece that broke off the dryer door-closing area, so I'll mention it to him. We now shut the water supply off religiously.