Speed queen!!?? Now that sounds old school! Lol

I'll check it out. Thanks!

Yes, Speed Queen. Fills with lots of water at whatever hot temp your faucet provides. Any cycles take around 35 minutes. With a little DIY you can even up the max water level a bit and increase your warm wash temp, too.

So is speed queen the only brand that still makes washing machines that aren't "HE"? I put in quotes because I'm having to cut my loads into fourths in order for them to actually be IN the water or I have to wash a normal sized load twice-- nothing efficient about that!!

Also, this machine was purchased new 15 months ago for750 dollars. What do I do with it when I get a new one? Can I sell it somewhere for 250 dollars?

Pretty much so. Even Speed Queen makes HE-ish washers for commercial settings but the domestic models are as non-HE as it gets these days. Yes, the max fill level on the Speed Queens is no longer all the way to the top and the warm fill will be 40% hot and 60% cold but you can work around this easily.

Clean the Cabrio up as good as you can, get out your camera (always take clear, sharp and well-lit pictures when trying to sell something) and put it on craigslist or something similar.

Alex

Here is a link that might be useful: Water level adjust

You guys are missing the boat. I have a Samsung 520 that does a FAN-freaking-TASTIC job at getting EVERYTHING extreemely clean, including large shop towels that have black gunk and silicone residue on them. You DO NOT NEED lots of water to get good cleaning. What you need is the proper detergents and the PROPER LIFT ACTION, which ONLY occurs when you don't have too much water in a FL. I SLIGHTLY adjusted the water level higher in my Sammy, after a few months. IT was trial and error but very quick and easy to do. Too much water prevents the clothes from lifting/tumbling as they wash. You "old school" people simply aren't aware of HOW an HE washer operates or you have had bad experiences with a lousy unit. My old Maytag (the old ones, before Maytag began to suck) TL never got things clean, no matter how hot the water was, how much detergent. It used TONS of water but simply didn't get things clean.

TO get your wash clean you need:

1. proper temp and detergent
2. proper agitation
3. appropriate time for soil to be removed.
4 effective rinse to remove detergents

None of the above requires huge amounts of water.

I agree with Dave 1812. In addition, sorting is important, and so is following the manufacturer's cycle recommendations. Except for the Normal cycle. Normal cycle is what the Energy Star label is based on. It uses the lowest water levels, and the lowest target water temperatures. That probably explains the stinky towels. You need HOT water to clean towels down the the fibers. I do not recommend using Normal, unless the loads are small and lightly soiled. Whirlpool trainee had a good point of giving your washer a good cleaning. If your towels smell because of soil buildup, then that same buildup is in your washer. If you use bleach, at least one HOT load of laundry per week, and leave the lid open to dry out between loads, you should not need to clean out your machine, ever.

The lid lock is a done deal, unfortunately. Nothing can be done with that. Most washers lock now days, due to the very high spin speeds and deep tubs. I know it is frustrating, but maybe some of us here can help you achieve better results with your current machine. If you have made up your mind to hate it, then maybe consider replacing it.

I agree with the "must have enough water in a load" crowd. So I mostly use the "bulky" cycle in my 2010 Maytag Bravos machine. That cycle uses more water and cascades water over the load. My laundry is clean all the time, no problems at all. I also have an onboard heater, which really is necessary with newer machines.

That being said, when my son wanted a washer and dryer recently and didn't have a lot of money to spend, I advised him to buy Speed Queens at a used appliance store. He and his wife are very happy with their machines, and they do several loads of cloth diapers a week in addition to regular laundry.

I now have a speed queen washer, it replaced my LG waveforce washer which started to go downhill fast after two years of owning it. I did own a Kenmore HE3t for 10 yrs and loved it. Front loaders clean better than than tL HE machines, but I will say that my speed queen cleans just as well as a FL but yes uses much more water in the process.

Another good thing with Speed Queen, they never go out of balance and walk/bang around.

It is really hard to get one to go off balance. I could just look at my LG and it would give me a UL code

I just bought a new Speed Queen set today. :) I'm finally getting rid of my 11 yr old, moldy Neptune set. Well, the dryer still works fine, so will give it away to someone but the washer is going on the curb. I researched on here and a couple other sites and just didn't have any trust in any of the new HE's.

I hate our top load washer for the same reasons you hated yours. Plus the drums are so deep it's hard to reach the clothes. It takes way too long to wash a load of clothes. Food dropped on a shirt, leaving a small grease spot does not disappear after washing, like in the machines where WE got to choose the water level, or could add more water during mid cycle. And we could use all HOT water if we wanted to..You try to change anything on these new ones, it empties the machine, spins them out, and you got to start over. Check what clothes are on top when you put them in, what's on top when you take them out? Stupid machines were made for mostly people who live in areas that have water restrictions. They should still make the old kind. We have a well, and even in town we have no water restrictions. We should be able to choose what kind of washer we want to use for our clothing. It should not be government mandated.

"We should be able to choose what kind of washer we want to use for our clothing. It should not be government mandated." Yes what's good for you and not the environment (water, energy). Damn those energy saving appliances helping us save energy - when will madness end??? What's next - throwing low flow shower heads to the curb?

What's next - throwing low flow shower heads to the curb? Not necessary, usually you can remove the restrictor to increase the flow.

I had a refurbed (by me) old-style, agitator, deep-fill 1999 Kenmore 90 for sale a couple years ago. All-new bearings, spin drive & brake. Transmission serviced with a new agitator shaft and spin kit, fresh oil. Offered for $380 on Craiglist and Facebook Marketplace. No takers. Still have it, holding in case a family member needs one. Also have a refurbished 2003 Whirlpool that's a bit nicer, haven't offered it for sale but likely would be the same result.

Dadoes, have you considered the automaticwasher.org site and tried to sell there?

I've been involved with that group for 20+ years. Direct-drives aren't vintage enough to grab attention unless perhaps of two specific models (one of which I also have). Anyone among the group who wants a DD will find their own and refurb it.

The point I was making above is that people fuss about wanting an old-style washer but largely don't make the effort to look for them, or buy one that's offered even fixed-up-ready-to-go. There's a dealer in Ohio that refurbs them, selling for $800 to $1200. LOL, never happen here.

dadoes .. I would love to buy that Kenmore! where are you located?

Hour+ish SW of Houston.

South Carolina here ... I am hunting for an older one thanks for the reply!

I used an avocada-colored Kenmore washer from 1969 to 1996. Best washing machine I’ve ever had!!! Wish I could find another like it.

@HU-471277586, that mechanical design went out of production in 1986. They are still found occasionally among collectors but always need some repair and refurbishment ranging from moderate to extensive to near-impossible.

dadoes, we are about an hour west of Houston Do you still have that washer to sell?

The locking lid is not a done deal on your HE, I solved the issue with mine although it is a hassle and takes some fenesse! I used a completly made of plastic toddler fork (still sturdy but not conductive or abrasive on enamel) and stick it in the reciving side of the latch sensor (mine was on the edge of the washer ring on right, just look on lid for the latch prong then see where it would go when the lis closes and stick your fork in there!) hit the start button and fenesse the fork till it hits like the latch would andit may stay without holding otherwise leverage it to stay some how and you are good to go, however the washer will not let you do a good soak because it thinks its running a cycle. also be aware these new washers are made to break down under the new circular economic strategy and i learned the hard way tricking the fill sensor willtrick you into replacing the lift support around the basket extreamly quickly 😞 word to the wise! but im working on an upgrade hack idea ill share if i can work it out!