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Light Fixture for Kitchen Table in Breakfast Nook

13 years ago

I just finished a kitchen a remodel and am putting together the finishing touches which include lighting. As part of the kitchen remodel, we knocked down the wall between the kitchen and dining room to have one big open space. This eating area is a L-shaped banquette under a fairly large window. This is the only eating area in the home. The table we purchased but has not yet arrived is 38 x 48 and is of reclaimed/repurposed wood, in a medium warm brown tone (almond): http://modernrustfurniture.com/id75.html

The l-shaped shaped bench is all white and I have not yet picked out cushions. The floors in the space are natural oak. The wall color in the space is BM Gray Whisp.

I am considering this light fixture from west elm: http://www.westelm.com/products/turning-pendant-w691/?pkey=cchandeliers-pendant-lighting Which is 19"D x 20"H. Does this seem like it would work in the space? Does it seem to be the right size?

I am also looking for a pendant light to hang over my small breakfast bar which is just adjacent to the space. I am not sure what would coordinate with this west elm fixture? More info about the kitchen is that the countertops are soapstone with white veining. There is a honed marble hexagonal backsplash. Cabinets are white painted BM Simply White Lindingo by Ikea with Polished Nickel hardware. I am a lighting dummy and could use your advice. I will try to post photos of the space so you can get a better overall view of the space.

Comments (25)

  • 13 years ago

    newbie,

    I love the table you have chosen and think the light could work if you are going for that modern/rustic look. It would very much echo the look of that barn door shown in the ad.

    Here's the links so that others can look more easily

    Here is a link that might be useful: west elm light

  • 13 years ago

    Here's the link for the table.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Rustic table

  • 13 years ago

    Great table! I think that fixture would work, although my tendencies with it would be more towards an iron fixture with optic or other old style glass. Will a single 60 W bulb be enough light for you (not only for eating but for kids doing homework, reading the paper, etc.)? The link below is something similar with more light. You can always use smaller bulbs or put it on a dimmer, but you can't add more light to a single bulb.

    Here is a link that might be useful: 4 lite pendant

  • 13 years ago

    Ok, sorry it took so long but here is a photo of the breakfast nook. So clearly you will need to imagine the small green/glass table gone with the new table (see above) in its place:

    The other fixture will be a pendant of sorts to go above the peninsula/breakfast bar. Here is a photo:

    So since these two light fixtures will be hung fairly close together they need to not necessarily match, but must mesh.

    Although I really like west elm pendant, I am not sure what I would choose to hang over the peninsula. Any suggestions?

    The other option that I was toying with was school house lights like this Rhone (smaller version for peninsula) from Rejuvination:

    AND this larger Rose City version for above the table:

    (This version is shown with stripes, but that they have other options as well, so the two fixtures could match).

    So any thoughts? Does anyone have any other options I should consider? This kitchen has been 90% done since Labor Day 2011 and I have not been able to pull the trigger on light fixtures. Please help! :)

  • 13 years ago

    Oops! Did not even see one of the cats made it into the photo. Say hi to Molly! :)

  • 13 years ago

    Okay the contractor is really bugging me to pick out my fixtures so that he can finish the ceiling. I would appreciate any advice! Keep in mind that the 2 fixtures are less than 10 feet apart.

    Thanks again!

  • 13 years ago

    I can't imagine 60 watts being enough light for over a table, even though it is a nice looking fixture. Have you seen any similar ones you like with more wattage?

    Here is a pic of the light, might help others to comment:

    As far as the schoolhouse lights, hy first reaction was that it did not look like a fixture for over a table, but I can see the appeal of having something coordinate well with your other light. I scoured the internet looking for pics of a single light like that over a table and couldn't find any. Even on the Rejuvination website it didn't show any; they were all over bars/counters. It looks like it has 300wt capacity so should be plenty bright...how far above the table will you hang it? The same height as the other? It seems like it could work as more of an alcove area light (hung higher) rather than as a chandelier that is closer to the table.

    Do you have any inspiration pics that show it used over a table lower like a chandelier (if that's your intended use)?

  • 13 years ago

    I have not seen another fixture like it. And I also do not have any inspiration photos showing a school house pendant over a dining table. I just thought a drum shade would like cute in a dining nook and had seen many photos of that done. However, if I did a drum pendant over the dining nook, I was not sure what to do over the peninsula. I know they make those mini matching shaded pendants, but for some reason that struck me as too matchy matchy. I am truly terrible with lighting and I do not think it helps that I mixing styles, traditional, modern & rustic. Right now over the table we just have a normal 60W bare bulb and that has been okay for light. Not sure about homework, etc. Our first child is not due to arrive until May--- so no homework or art projects being done at the table right now.. just meals for two.

    Well, any insight is helpful and I appreciate it! I am just totally lost when it comes to lighting.

  • 13 years ago

    I looked for some pics to see what kind of lights people coordinate with drum shade chandeliers in a kitchen space. I found this one and I think it looks great, but there are two of the pendant lights. It might be odd to have just one of each. What would you think of doing something more like the pendant light over the table? A bigger version of what you do in the kitchen? Kind of like what you were thinking with the schoolhouse lights, but with an open bottom?

    I found this, which is more on your idea of the schoolhouse lights, with this over the table. I like how it's hung higher than a chandelier and it seems to suit the space. I can't tell if the ceiling is higher than yours, though. What do you think of this, using maybe matching schoolhouse fixtures? (both the same size, not matching the pic, I mean).

    Or if you go with the drum light, what about something like this for over the bar? (In a finish similar to the table fixture)

  • 13 years ago

    Thanks for the photos! I have seem many mini versions of the larger drum shade in the form of mini shaded pendants. I am just not sure if it looks too matchy-matchy. I know I was okay with it for the school house lights, but they seem different for some reason. I dunno, maybe I am crazy or overthinking this.

    In the photo with the drum and two pendants, I like the pendants, I am just not sure I want a light for over the kitchen table that is open at the bottom, because then dinner would see the harsh light of the bulb(s). It is not so much a concern with the pendant fixture for the peninsula, since I do not envision many people sitting at the bar.

    I have also thought that it might be weird to have two different lights so close together. Ughh!! I think that is why this process is driving me nutty.

  • 13 years ago

    I was thinking that maybe you shouldn't have pendants at all and just one larger light fixture over your banquette area. Maybe that is what is bothering you. Or have your pendants and maybe two wall sconces in the banquette area?

  • 13 years ago

    atkillery- I think you might be onto something. We truly do not need a light fixture over the peninsula and it is difficult to find a light that can be hung solo that does not compete with the light for over the table, which we really do need! Wall sconces would not provide enough light and we do not have enough space on the walls for them.

    Any suggestions for a light for over the table? Would a drum shade look okay? Any advice?

  • 13 years ago

    I think a drum would look great. Are you sold on a drum or does anything else appeal to you??

  • 13 years ago

    Please excuse my sad attempt at photo editing. These light fixtures are probably much bigger in the photos than in real life.

    Hope this helps.

    Feel free to post a light you like and I can add it to your nook.

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  • 13 years ago

    Thanks for the photos! That does help! I do like the drum shades a lot. I kinda want to add some texture to the room, since it is not a formal space, to make it more comfortable. It is also difficult to pick a shade since the table will not arrive for probably another 4 weeks or so. Also I have not picked a floor rug or a bench cushion. So the plain white bench make the nook look very boring.

    I found this Room & Board light I like (but hate the price at $399).

    But I found this NEW material on the Galbraith & Paul website that I really dig with the colors.

  • 13 years ago

    Or.. I really like this shade from west elm (25d10.5H)(13CFL or 150 watt incandescent):

    The nice thing is that it is neutral and warm and I could do some sort of pattern on pillows for the cushion that would be easier to change out a few years from now if I tire of the pattern/color, much easier and cheaper than changing the bench cushion or buying (gulp) another $399 light fixture.

    Thoughts?

    Also would this work over the peninsula? West Elm for $199

    Or do you think I should just scrap the pendant light?

  • 13 years ago

    Hi Newbie!

    I've wondered what happened to you! Haven't seen you over in Kitchens for a long time!

    First, congrats on expecting a baby! Exciting! You're on the right path trying to tie up all these loose ends before May.

    Have you thought about posting over in Kitchens also? So many there have heavily researched lights that someone may have seen the perfect fixture for you. Plus, I know everyone would like to see your progress. :)

    When I saw that first WE fixture, I thought of a Barbara Cosgrove pendant I like. It echoes the shape. I'll link it below. You might look around for other lights on that site, too. Some of them get into the $$$ range though.

    I don't care for the mod WE glass cluster you just posted. How far apart would the peninsula and banquette fixtures be? I'm thinking that you might want to scrap the peninsula pendant...

    Here is a link that might be useful: Savannah pendant in polished nickel

  • 13 years ago

    Hey Breezy!! Yeah the bulk of the kitchen stuff finished at the end of August and I found out I was pregnant right after Labor Day. So I have not visited the kitchen forum much since then-- I went on baby mode! But now I am back because this kitchen/nook need to get done ASAP! The HD forum has been great. In addition I was not sure if I should cross post, since this is more of a decorating question then a kitchen design.

    I am not 100% sold on the WE glass pendant, I was just thinking something that is more than a single light would maybe look more substantial so that it could hang on its own? Then again, part of me is leaning towards scrapping the pendants all together. The two lights would be about 6ft apart. I had originally wanted two pendants, but there is was not enough room, so post install, one light was already scrapped. Just want to make sure I am making the right decision to scrap the other one.

  • 13 years ago

    Aktillery- I also like the first photo of the drum you did. I was just not sure if I should add more black/white since there is a lot of it already in the space. But that fixture is pretty cool.

  • 13 years ago

    If you want to share a photo of an angle of your kitchen I can add in the two light fixtures over your sink and table together to see if you like it.

  • 13 years ago

    Aktillery- I also like the first photo of the drum you did. I was just not sure if I should add more black/white since there is a lot of it already in the space. But that fixture is pretty cool.

  • 13 years ago

    Here is a link to the fixture.

    Here is a link that might be useful: drum shade

  • 13 years ago

    For balance, I think if you do a drum over the table you should do either two smaller pendants over the peninsula or two recessed. One small pendant doesn't cut it for me. I think either one of those options would work just fine, depending on what you want. I think, though, that the pendants should have different finishes than the drum. Since the drum would be fabric, you wouldn't choose a different pendant with fabric because it would be slightly "off". So choose two smaller pendants that are nickel, chrome, glass, or even lanterns.

  • 13 years ago

    Babs- If you look at the photo above of the breakfast bar you can see where the one pendant should be and there other one was suppose to be. The one was scrapped because it is too close to the cabinet and there really is not room for two. The kitchen is pretty bright and light, with the recessed lights we have and the under cabinet lights, so I am not sure if I truly need more lights over the bar. I originally wanted the pendants more for a decorative element, than for function.