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How to get your puppy to sleep through the night?

18 years ago

My husband and I adopted a puppy from the humane society a few weeks back. She was very sick when we got her and we didn't know. She had Parvo, thankfully we treated her and she survived. Now that she is back to a normal puppy we seem to have a sleeping issue. She has formed a habit of waking up at 11:30 . 1:30, 3:30 and around 5:30 every night/ morning. We had 2 other dogs that we crate trained ( both males ) and didn't have this problem. She is my first little girl so I am not sure if there is a difference in how long they can hold it or not. She is around 10-11 weeks now. She is having more and more accidents also, we take her out all the time. I am having the vet check her for any infection just in case, do to her health issues. Is this normal? Does anyone have suggestions for me on how to break this "habit" she has formed. My Yorkie did this when he got older ( he has passed now) but it only lasted about a week. You all seem to give very good advice, I am a dog lover and will do anything to help her and us. She is a precious Angel and I am thankful that we still have her. Thanks everyone!

Comments (21)

  • 18 years ago

    My guess is she may have a urinary infection. Needing to go very two hours and accidents in the house isn't normal, yet she is still very much a puppy at 10 weeks. My first thought was that she's just training you to get up every 2 hours thru the night, but the daytime issues contradict that.

    What breed is she? Some breeds can take longer to housetrain.

  • 18 years ago

    Also, it's best not to let her drink water more than a couple of hours before bedtime. Let her go out to tinkle right before you all go to sleep. That way her bladder won't be full.

  • 18 years ago

    She is a mix breed, so we really aren't sure. I think she is going to be a medium size dog. They called her a chow mix but I have a chow mix and she looks NOTHING like him. Her brothers and sisters were a little "fluffy" I think that is why they called them this.
    I am trying to get a sample to take to the vet just to make sure, this isn't an easy task! : )

  • 18 years ago

    I have always found a corn boat to be of great help when trying to get a sample from one of ours. They squat and I slip it under them. I always have another container with me to pour it into right away. We have a designated corn boat that is only used for this purpose. Good luck.
    Linda

  • 18 years ago

    I really don't know about the infection or health issues, but I can share my story.

    I am by no means an expert! Lilly is really only the second dog that I have trained. But this is what worked for me.

    I have a female Golden Retriever Lilly, now 6mo old. When we first got her she had many accidents in the house and wined many times at night. During the day I had to keep her on a leash with me all the time if she was not in her cage. So I could watch her, and catch her in the act as soon as she would squat I could take her out side and praise, praise, praise when she would finish outside. It took about 2 weeks for her to finally "get it". And as for getting her to sleep through the night. Pay lots of attention to her(just petting her, talking to her) and not let her nap for about 30 min. to 2 hours before bed time. Then I would play with her for about 5 - 20 min(increasing time slowly over many days) before bedtime, by getting her to chase a rope that I would dangle for her, back and forth, then let her chew on it for a few seconds then give chase again. Sooner or later she gets tired and would sleep for several hours. This started to work right away and she ended up sleeping longer and longer. Lilly now sleeps in her cage quietly from 10:00pm till 7:00am
    I hope my story can help. Above all it just takes patients and time.

  • 18 years ago

    At 10-11 weeks old, she is very young plus she has been through a shelter and has been sick with Parvo. That is a lot to go through in 10-11 weeks. Of course it is always best to check with your vet about any medical problems. Is she still on any meds as meds may be contributing to this?

    I think you need to give her more time to adjust. Usually pups at such a young age can't hold it for all night long. Many little pups need to go every 2 to 4 hours. Where is she sleeping at night? In a crate? Where is the crate located? Sometimes they wake up throughtout the night due to insecurity and once they are awake and get nervous, they have to go. If she was sleeping near you and if you were a light sleeper, sometimes a little reassurance will be enough to relax them back to sleep again. It could be a reassuring pet or even a simple statement to her telling her that you are still there with her. Some people have gone so far as putting a cozy stuffed animal in with the pup.

    During the day you really need to stay with her. I know you say you take her out all the time but she must be away from you if she is having accidents.

    I really believe in a short time this will all pass. Keep taking her out every couple of hours on a leash to where you want her to go and praise her afterwards. If she really is on this routine, perhaps for some of the times like 11:30 and 1:30 you could head her off and take her out. Have you ever just observed her sleeping to see what really happens when she wakes up at these times?

    Does she sleep a lot during the day? A young pup does need to nap during the day but perhaps you can try to limit her naps and tire her out with more activity before night time.

    This will pass before you know it. Good luck.

  • 18 years ago

    UTI definitely needs to be checked for. I was amazed to see how willingly my dogs would allow the tech to put a dish underneath them as they squatted.

    Secondly, where is her crate? If it is not next to your bed, she might just want you, and she has figured out a system to see you more often. :o>

  • 18 years ago

    Your puppy is very young and has been very sick. Even under the best conditions, each puppy is different and sleeping through the night is the thing every puppyowner longs for.

    After all UTI has been ruled out - (I used a lid to a tupperware type-container to slide under my old gal when I wanted a urine sample), perhaps you could ignore her once during the night and see if she settles down. If not, her bladder is not mature enough yet to hold for longer periods of time, could be for any number of reasons. Put the crate next to your bed at night and see how it goes. Limit her water as much as you can after dinner. If she is playing hard tho, she will need to drink.

    When my old gal experienced UTI I did notice that she wanted to out frequently during the day as well. As soon as I noticed her going more often than normal, I took a urine to the vet. I think it is a bit of instinct as well. Is your pup going out to go unusually often all of the time?

    Best of luck to you.

  • 18 years ago

    sassy,a few further questions. What happens if you don't get up and take her out all those times? Does she soil her crate? How big is her crate relative to her size? Pups generally won't soil where they sleep,unless there plenty of room.Experts say many dogs don't have bladder control until 6+ months she is still very young to expect that. I'm not tring to sound mean but it sounds like she is training you instead of the other way around.When she becomes restless,you react. The best advice I can give you is put her crate far enough away from where you sleep so you can't hear all the commotion, cover the back,sides and part of the front of the crate with a large blanket and let her tough it out a little . It would be a good thing if you could set an alarm once in the middle of the night say-2:00 to let her out but then put her right back in cover the cage and sleep!Don't let her get you caught up in playtime at 2 a.m.!!!Any puppy in the world would rather be with you than in a lonely cage at night, do it right from the start and she will have a lifetime of good habits!!!Also, give her some fun toys to entertain herself during those waking times. Remember puppies are like babies,no concept of a.m. or p.m. that comes later. Best wishes!!!!

  • 18 years ago

    I'm new here but just thought I would tell you that
    my husband made a gizmo to collect urine samples. It worked like a charm for our dog.

    He attached a wire from a coat hanger to a cup from an egg
    poacher. When the dog squatted to pee we just put the cup under
    her to catch the urine.

    The only thing is, don't let the neighbors catch you out a
    2:00 am following a dog around with an egg poacher cup
    or they will most likely call the police.:0)

    Good luck with the potty training. We're getting another
    poodle baby to love and I'll be doing the potty training
    bit also. Incidentally we've named her Sassi.

  • 18 years ago

    Are you leash walking your pup or just letting her out in the yard for a couple of minutes? If you are leash walking - awesome, you might try a longer walkies. And when she gets up at night, tell her go night night, and lay her down and pet her for awhile. She may go back to sleep. It could be that she is feeling better and has extra energy as a result. Try not to make the mistake of just letting her out in your yard to do her business. Leash walking, in the city or out in the boonies, for a good half an hour will do wonders. We take our friends 3 pound Chihuahua out for 5 milers as long as the terrain is not too rough.

  • 18 years ago

    This doesn't address your issue - but others have done that very well. I would like to know though - did the puppy have parvo when you got her from the shelter? Have you informed the shelter? Parvo is very serious, as you are aware, and shelters have to take appropriate action when parvo has been in the building.

  • 18 years ago

    The rule of thumb on how long they can hold it is one hour for every month old they are. Since your dog was so sick his growth was probably held up a bit so the 2 hours does not seem bad to me. Having a puppy is like having a newborn.
    I kept Riley's crate on my night stand when he was little. If he started to whine I would put my hand thru the mesh so he could lick me. If he had to go he would continue to whine (escalating to barking), if he just felt insecure he would settle down.
    During the day if you can't keep him tethered to you he should be kept in his crate. I also kept a journal of when he drank, ate and did his business. So basically I was potty trained first, then I taught him to ring a bell to let me know when he needed to go out.
    Riley is a small mixed dog and I was told they were the worst to housebreak. But by sticking to the crate training it's been really easy. He's almost a year now and hasn't had an accident at home in 7 months. I only use the crate at night now and that's only because he would make too much noise playing with the cats at night.

  • 18 years ago

    Okay I am going to try and answer all the questions I have been asked. Daisy does stay in a crate during the day as my husband and I both work full time. She is not holding herself throughout the day. I don't allow her a lot of water in the morning and I take her out 2 to 3 times before I leave. She is not on a leash, none of out dogs were, but she has a designated "potty" area. When she wakes me up at night we go to teh door directly and to the potty spot. Once she is done, I tell her its time to go back to bed. She has actually improved on getting in the crate at night and not throwing a huge fit. Her Crate is in our room and its not a big one its actually the smallest wired crate I have seen but she has enough room for a small cushion to lay on and room to move around with her toys , and its in our room. The thing of trying to ignore her is a great idea but she will pee in her crate and that is what I am trying so hard to avoid. Also I have a 5 year old dog and when she throws a fit he gets restless then nobody sleeps : ) .
    She actually didn't wake me up until 4am today and I was so excited but then I found evidence that she potty in the crate I don't thik that was from yesterday unless my husband missed it which is possible.
    When she does pee in there I try to clean and wash everything in hopes she won't smell it and do it again. Is there anything to help with the odor?? any thoughts.

    So we are being patient and trying to do what we can, I may try the leash idea, that is a good one.

    Now Prairie Love you asked me about the Parvo. You all have NO idea what I have gone through. I had NO clue when I picked my precious baby out that she had Parvo. We found out the Sunday after we got her on Wed. She was so sick. I did call the humane society and to my suprise found out 2 days late that they knew on Saturday. I went straight to a board member with my concerns. Its been a huge ordeal but they are working on it and investigating and having a special session to keep this from happening again. I am very aware of how serious it is now, as all of her litter mates lost their lives due to it.

    Another thing I want to ask you all about. They made me have her fixed before I could take her home, yes at 8weeks of age. Would this affect anything with her.
    I need to ask my vet. We finally have enough of a "sample" to take in now.. whoo what a chore.

    Thank you all for your ideas, I love having animal lovers to talk to.
    Now if I can get my 5 year old to love her as much as her daddy and I do : ) !

  • 18 years ago

    I don't think this is an issue about training. The pup is very young...a real baby. There is no way she is going to be able to hold it all day while you are at work. She is to young to hold it from 11 pm to 6 am. I think the pup is trying her best by telling you in the middle of the night that she needs to go to the bathroom. Just keeping her in a crate for the majority of hours in a day is not training her and will not improve her ability to hold it at this young age. I also think it is important for her to have plenty of fluids. If you limit her fluids before you go to work and limit them again before bed time, she is not getting the required amount of fluids. I really think she is spending far to much time in the crate. How many hours a day is she actually out of the crate?

  • 18 years ago

    Wow, Sassy - I was NOT in any way accusing YOU of anything! Please don't react so angrily. I was asking the question to find out whether or not the shelter had acted inappropriately - not you!

    I am on the Board for our local HS. I know that national recommendations when a dog (in a shelter) has parvo are that every dog under a certain age be euthanized. It's terrible and it's heartbreaking, but it is necessary to contain the disease. If they knew before you did, there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for them not informing you that your puppy was at risk. There are established protocols for dealing with parvo in shelters and the vet that works with your shelter should be aware of these. I am glad they are investigating, it sounds as if someone did not act responsibly.

    I am sorry you are dealing with this, but glad your pup made it through.

  • 18 years ago

    I'm probably going to get alot of flack for this but here goes. When Riley was little we never left him in the crate when we were gone. Our trainer said no more than 4 hours and sometimes we were gone for 5 or 6. The key is to never set up your dog for failure and at that age he just couldn't hold it long enough. And once they have an accident in the crate you have a whole new set of problems. So we set up a safe room. We kept his crate in the room with the door open and placed a piddle pad on the floor. Eventually we would come home and the piddle pad would be clean (or ripped to shreds) and that's when we quit the pads. Now he has the dining/kitchen area gated off for him when we're not home. This is more for our cats sake, so they can get away from him if they want. He spends most of the day sleeping or sometimes playing with one of the cats.
    I did read somewhere that spaying a female too young can sometimes cause incontinence. I hope this isn't the case here.

  • 18 years ago

    Prarie Love :
    I wanted to say that I was in no way meaning to come across angry in my last update. Its just been a mess dealing with the shelter. I didn't think you were saying anything bad towards me at all.

  • 18 years ago

    Dogs do not like to soil the space where they are forced to sleep, which is why we are able to crate train and then housebreak them. By keeping a very young puppy crated all day, she is being forced to sleep in her own urine. Before long, she will get used to it.....she will become a "dirty dog" and may never be housetrainable. I had a jack russel terrier years ago that was impossible to housetrain because it did not bother her in the least to soil her crate. She ended up being an outside dog. I agree wiht Bluesbarby...she needs a safe room to stay in during the day and not a crate. As it is now, she is spending most of her life in a crate and that is not a very good life for a puppy. a safe room will give her freedom to run, play and chew during the day and to burn off a little energy. At night, withhold her food and water after 7:00 pm. Do not rush her outside at her first wimpering....she needs to learn to hold it. Make sure her crate is not too big. Block off part of it if necessary so she only has room to lay down and sleep. Remove all bedding so if she does urinate in the crate, she will learn that soiling her space means she will have to sit in a puddle. If you have thck absorbant bedding in there, it will soak up her accident and she will sleep comfortably. she needs to learn there are consequences for not holding her urine. If she is medically OK, there is no reason she should not be able to hold her urine for 6 hours or maybe more.

  • 18 years ago

    Oh one more thing....when she goes outside to use the potty, make sure she is on a leash. Go with her to her "area" and repeat the same command...."go potty" or whatever. Do not allow her to play, even for an instance. Don't pet her, don't talk to her...only repeat the command. as soon as she has done as you ask, praise the heck out of her! Remove her leash and play with her. she needs to learn that going outside is first and foremost, to potty. Above all.....be VERY consistant. Don't let her have accidents in the house. Don't allow her to run around and play unattended. Remember as soon as she eats or wakes up, she will need to go outside....on her leash.

  • 18 years ago

    Your pup is too young (especially with being ill) to hold it through the night. Keep taking her out when she needs to potty and put her back in the crate when she is done.

    The hard part is knowing when she is whining for potty and when she whining for attention.

    Eventually, as she grows, you should notice the time between potties getting longer and longer. If you don't notice this after a month or two, then she probably needs another vet visit.

    So how were the UTI results?

    Your pup is lucky to be alive. And her growth may be stunted because of it, which would delay her ability to "hold it".