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Should oak floor stain match my stained woodwork? (Pics included)

13 years ago

Backstory: we bought a house built in 1939 that still has its original, unpainted woodwork. In a previous house, I had the woodwork painted and really regretted it - as with kids and toys, it constantly chipped and needed touched up.

So, in this house, I was hoping to keep the current baseboards unpainted (and definitely want to keep the doors unpainted). We are painting the new addition woodwork white and installing a white kitchen which runs between the original part of the house (stained woodwork) and new part of the house (painted woodwork).

The white oak floor has been extended/feathered in throughout the house and it's time for me to start thinking about a stain color for the woodwork. Since we're putting in a white kitchen (probably with a walnut counter on the island and carrara on the perimeter) I was hoping to go with a darker stain (like walnut), but wasn't sure how dark I can go, given the stained doors and woodwork. And whether the new shoe molding should match the stained floor or the baseboards (if they end up being different colors)...

Any thoughts, suggestions? The previous owners had a glossy polyurethane finish on the floors. I'm going with a matte finish.

Here's an idea of what the floors look like now. The floor guy said they probably don't have any stain on them, but the poly has yellowed over the years, giving them a somewhat yellow cast:

From April 4, 2012

Here's a photo showing basement door, broom closet door, and woodwork that will remain unpainted:

From April 4, 2012

Here's a bay window with stained trim and the baseboard below that will be part of the kitchen eating area (separated from the kitchen by an 8' arched opening) :

From April 4, 2012

These pictures make the woodwork appear more red that it actually is, so here's a closeup of the fireplace mantle which represents the wood/stain color better:

From April 4, 2012

From April 4, 2012

WARNING - my next post will address decorating ideas and paint colors to use when you have stained baseboards. It's nearly impossible to find examples of rooms without white painted woodwork. I love the white painted woodwork, but just think it's such a pain if they don't start out painted white.

I really appreciate any thoughts, suggestions, pictures, encouragement, etc. Thanks.

Comments (13)

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I think they look beautiful, I wouldn't do a thing to change them.

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I guess it all depends on how anal you are and whether it will bother you if there is a big difference in stains. I have an old house with hardwood floors but for some unknown reason downstairs all the doors and trim are unpainted but upstairs they are painted. My furniture is mostly mahogany or cherry but there's not much red in the original stain and it was also yellowed with age. We compromised by adding a touch of red to the floor stain and went a bit darker to blend with the furniture and floors. Try it out before doing the whole thing to find a shade that pleases your eye.

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I'm sorry, but right now I don't have a photo showing both floor and stained woodwork in one place but our wood work is darker than our oak floors. It's hard to tell from these pictures, but the wood trim matches the darkest shade of the grain in the floors.

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Cindyloo, I don't care for shoe molding either. It just gets banged up by the vacuum. Which is why we are not using it in our home.
    This is a terrible picture taken with my old cell phone camera, but it shows our baseboard without shoe molding.

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I love the natural floors! Of course, I am not a fan of darker stains and have natural white oak in my house, so I am a little biased.

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    We have 1919 white oak floors with an oil finish. The floors are golden in color. All our woodwork, baseboards/window trim/wainscoting is original and is pretty much the equivalent to Minwax Spanish Chestnut. All this wood is finished with amber shellac.

    I would't change anything in your house.

    The link below has lots of pictures with stained woodwork.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Photos

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Thank you all for the pictures and advice.

    As for the shoe molding - I think it will need to go back up because I believe that the wood floor doesn't run under the baseboards, but I could be wrong. I'll look again tonight.

    I do like the idea of the floor and baseboard matching, but I think I'll try for what I guess is the opposite of jgbm - I'll see if they can stain the floor a little so the lightest shade of the floor grain matches the baseboards.

    I'm glad there are folks out there who do appreciate the beauty of wood - because everyone I ask around here says to just paint it...

    :)

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Yes, there are a few of us natural wood trim lovers around right now. I'm glad I saw your post and was able to help you.

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    "I'll see if they can stain the floor a little so the lightest shade of the floor grain matches the baseboards."

    I think you are taking this way too seriously, lol. The two woods don't need to match. As long as they don't somehow clash, they will be fine as they are.

    Somehow I thought you were getting a new floor, that's why I said you don't need the shoe. If there is shoe now it is undoubtedly necessary because they didn't pull the baseboards when the floor was put in.

    I love the crispness of white trim, but I don't think I would ever trade the maintenance free aspect of my stained trim.

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I love your stained trim and windows. What a pretty house you have! I like white trim too, but this is nice wood and it looks lovely. I would not stain the floor- just refinish if you don't like the sheen.
    Renee

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I missed out on most of this convo, but it ties in exactly to what I'm struggling with. We have the EXACT same wood color in our house. Baseboards, doors, windows... everything. The only problem is that we really don't like it. We prefer a darker color. Painting it is not an option, we refuse to be the first people to paint it (built in 1895). I think our only option is to one, accept the color, or two, find some way to change the color of the baseboards, etc. Has anyone done this? I've heard gel stains, but they also aren't a very good idea on baseboards because of nicks and scrapes. Besides sanding every single piece of wood, is there some other product that can go over top, penetrate either the wood or stain, and darken the wood up some?

    Thanks for the help.

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Now you got me started. I was going to comment that the molding and the floors look wonderful and should stay the colors they are. In many older houses with stained ww, the floor is lighter, giving some interest to the room. Then you got me started on base shoe, my FAVORITE topic. IMHO, you must put the base shoe up. It's the finishing touch on fine woodwork. I've always wondered why it is called base shoe and finally determined that it's like putting on your best clothing and then going barefoot. It just looks unfinished.
    My former house had all natural molding, what I wouldn't give to have it now. I love my house, but the white moldings can go...and the upkeep. My guess is if you're using the original baseshoe and it's held up all these years, it'll will hold up for many more. New stuff, unless you buy oak, not so much. Have fun. The house is beautiful.