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18 years ago

Hello everybody,

Finally the framing on my new deck is complete and the ipe is here ready to be installed. I have 2 questions:

1) The ipe was left stacked but not stickered and covered with a huge tarp to acclimate and they plan on installing it starting next week. Do you guys think it would acclimate alright?

2) I need to decide the railing for the deck. I'll probably need about 200lf of rail and choices are between ipe at about $30/lf and redwood/cedar at about $15/lf. This estimate does not include labor and I guess the price difference will be even higher giving nature of ipe. I think it would look the best matching railing with the deck (ipe and ipe) but the cost difference (at least $3k) makes me consider the redwood/cedar choice. What would you choose? Would redwood/cedar look fine? Does anybaody have a similar combo? Should I consider composite railing?

Thanks in advance,

Mike

Comments (15)

  • 18 years ago

    Mike,
    I always use knotty cedar with an Ipe cap for my railings. I like the look.

    steve

  • 18 years ago

    Hi Steve,

    thanks for your reply, what do you think about the acclimating issue?

    Thanks,
    Mike

  • 18 years ago

    I never have time for acclimatizing my Ipe, but if I did, I'd sticker it and keep it uncovered in the shade. If you stack it under a tarp, how is that acclimating the wood? you need to duplicate the same environment that it will exist in.

    steve

  • 18 years ago

    John agrees with Steve, tarping the ipe is not going to get it x 10 with no stickers. In a perfect world a person would sticker stack the ipe and run a big fan thru the stack in like a garage uncovered but protected from the sun.
    I almost never do that either, its a money/time thing the Wallet wont go for it most of the time.

    I dont agree with using cedar/redwood for the rail detail on an ipe deck for a lot of reasons.
    John

  • 18 years ago

    Hi John,

    Why not cedar/redwood? What do you use?

    Thanks,
    Mike

  • 18 years ago

    Cedar and Redwood are short lived compaired with ipe. A Cedar post blocked in to the frame is prone to mold.Redwood now days is second growth with a mix of sap wood allowed in the grade, sapwood is the part of the tree close to the outside the yellow color,this material in redwood will not resist decay any more than hemlock or white fir.

    Ipe 2x2 balusters/5/4 cap rail goes just as fast for me as using cedar, or course I charge a lot more for it. Latley I have been using a lot of the black allum pipe for balusters good place to get them>>> deckrailsolutions .com

  • 18 years ago

    Cedar will show signs of decay in as little as 7-8 years. Trapped water( i.e butt joints)won't dry out and need to be caulked before they ever allow moisture in. Cedar- never again. Go the distance- ease his pain.

  • 18 years ago

    No doubt that Ipe railings will outlast cedar. I would always use Ipe, if my clients would pay for it. I've only built 1 ipe railing, and it was beautiful. It was alot more work than a cedar version. If I was building my own deck, I would go Ipe. Buy the best, and only cry once.

    steve

  • 18 years ago

    Little trick from the John Mon>>> use 4x4 acq pt posts boxed in the frame, build post wraps out of 3/4 ipe 1x6, slide them over the the acq posts, bang bang!!! ipe posts at a little less costs than solid 4x4 ipe and a lot fasterSecond end of the year free trick from the John Mon>>> this will require a pin nailer that can fasten to ipe, that is I build the wraps in one unit. Senco makes such a nailer and Cadextools.com makes the same oneA big bent elbow with the Tecate to all the supper fine deck builders I have met over here and all the folks I have been mabey a little help to over the years.

    In Fact add a shot of Joe Crow to that!! To the tost\\ dont use t-junk,composite is a basic suck deal,ipe from the George at East Teak rules,water runs down hill and payday is on friday!!
    YouAll have a good season. J

  • 18 years ago

    One little corection,its Makita that makes that pinner not Senco. John

  • 18 years ago

    We haven't rebuilt our deck yet but we're looking at "deckorators" railing (or close) when we do.

  • 18 years ago

    Hi All,

    I'm suring deckorators GLASS balusters on my IPE deck:

    http://www.pbase.com/lonewolf69/image/70962178.jpg

    Deck was finished mid November 2006.

    -Alex

  • 18 years ago

    Sorry Folks,

    Here is the image right here:

    -Alex

  • 18 years ago

    Alex,that is one super fine project! J

  • 18 years ago

    My house is 17 years old. The decking was replaced with ipe 4 years ago. The railing is the original redwood. I expect it will wear out before the ipe. The redwood is a very good grade all heart clear. Its possible that this grade today would cost as much as ipe. Both deck and railing have TWP200 - you can see at the corner where I haven't finished the railing. I think that the railing will last as long again as its already gone - provided I keep up yearly treatment on at least the horizontal surfaces.
    Three issues - cost, looks and durability. Good luck in making a choice.chuckR

    Here is a link that might be useful: