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Crystal chandelier with Shaker cabinets? Opinions, please!

14 years ago

We're uilding a new home with an open plan kitchen/living room/dining room. Budget & builder problems mean we must abandon our plan for more elegant, formal cabinets & now it looks like medium brown Shaker is my only cabinet option. The living/dining rooms are sort of rustic contemporary, with stone & reclaimed beam mantel fireplace, sturdy furniture, & iron & crystal fake-Tuscan/Kathy Ireland lookalike dining rm chandelier. For our kitchen island, I have a very glitzy contemporary chandelier, that consists only of 9 inch long strands of crystal hanging from a 38 inch long X 10 inch wide rectangular frame (sorry, no pic.) I thought this light MIGHT work with the chandelier in dining rm & MAYBE make an interesting :) contrast to my more formal, detailed wood cabinets. However, now I have Shaker - dare I release the Liberace??

Comments (9)

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I think it can be done if you can dress up the space with a few other higher end items. Can you do shaker fronts with a more detailed crown? That might help.

    Below are a couple pictures showing less formal kitchens with crystal chandeliers.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Crystal Chandy's

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    These look like shaker cabs.

    Here is a link that might be useful:

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    My kitchen isn't formal, but my cabinets are white and I love my chandy. I love the crystal in the kitchen, it is a sort of unexpected "surprise". I can't see why it wouldn't work as long as this isn't the only "sparkle" you have. Maybe a silver tray next to the range to hold bottles of oil and stuff, and also a silver pitcher with utensils....you get the idea.

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Two distinct and different crystal lighting fixtures?-perhaps a risk of too much competition: a "goof" in lighting choice could be a hassle.For more crystal in kitchen,try crystal knobs on some accent cabinets..or as beekeeper mentions,"other sparkle".

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Open plans are the hardest for most people to get "right". You have to think of the space as a whole, a single room, or dissonance creeps in. You description of the space says you have too much going on with competing styles. You can have 1 unique large piece of glam for contrast in an open concept plan that's defined as rustic or you have to redefine the description. Or pick two glammy but still ornate if you can "match" them. Pick either the DR chandy or the kitchen one you've described, but not both. And you'll have to echo that glam in smaller touches throughout the whole space, not just the kitchen or DR.

    My pesonal leaning from your description would be to pick the DR for chandy, and pick one that combines rustic and glam. Maybe wrought iron dripping with crystals or ORB with iridescent shades and beads.

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    My bad. I didn't realize that the floor plan was open. I was reading way too quickly. With that being said, ditto to what LWO just said. The wrought iron and the crystal combo will be the perfect combo.

    Sorry about that. I think matching the chandys and maybe having different shade treaments could work too. In my space, I have the 2 crystal chandys--one over the table and one over the island. Same light but the one over the table I put a sheer drum shade on it, and the island has little white shades. (only because without the shades the light was a bit harsh).

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Cabs help define the room but you're the final boss.

    Not sure if you've seen my unstained "shaker" red oak cabs. Very affordable. The color is light, the grain is not accentuated, and it's possible to team them with a kind of midcentury-Scand mod look that can work with some oddball touches and it plays well with white appliances. I've got antiques in here but nothing very heavy--it's pretty airy. Light colored semi-transparent curtain fabrics keep the airy tone and we've tried to emphasize spaciousness by avoiding heavy things. The Swedes team chandeliers with modern furniture, but you have to get the ideas put together right. In my world, you mix hand-thrown pottery and old silverplate and white formal tableloths and it seems to work.

    Botanical and other natural science elements are useful as a tie-in. I would suggest staying with non-mod finishes (lots of wood, metals, classic fabrics and rugs, folksy art touches, downplay plastics and electronics and gizmos and vast expanses of industrial surfaces).

    If you do some research in library and online on "Swedish style" and "Gustavian" and such you will find an aesthetic that allows you to team very plain and Napoleonic together. Katrin Cargill has written or edited a lot of stuff about this. The rough details of real "country" with lots of wood in old Scandinavian rural houses combined with the rest of the gig is nothing but wonderful (in my humble opinion). Modern urban Scandinavians treasure their old stuff but they're terrifically practical people. Even Ikea features affordable twinkly chandeliers and prisms teamed with mod materials and furniture. The logic is that there is so much dark in the winter that you gotta live life now.

    Also look at real Shaker pieces and at mid-century "Danish modern" for some inspiration. The suggestion to use iron or blackened bronze in a chandelier is a good one. You will find many pieces like that in the gently mod kitchens on the GW. Some are modern takes on the old candleholder chandeliers.

    One way to gussy up plain "shaker" cabs is to use glass in the middle panel. Depending on your choice you can go modern or very old fashioned and everything in between. One look that will definitely cut the modern look is to install loosely or tightly gathered curtains behind inexpensive plain glass. You choose the fabric, from toile prints to cristp ivory white handkerchief linen to your favorite solid color. Changing them out only requires straight seam sewing and some fabric bought on sale. The cabs are mere backdrops. You only need to do this to a couple cab doors to reap the benefits.

    I've done a quick search for examples of kitchens in Scand/Swedish style but most show painted cabs. Here's one set of images, but it's pretty cutesy/femmy/painted antiquey...
    http://belgianpearls.blogspot.com/2010/05/thoughts-about-kitchen-redo-in-swedish.html

    Go to Amazon and type in Swedish style and you can look at a few pages of some of the books. Same with Google Book Search.

    Here is a link that might be useful:

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    My personal take on this:

    With wood-toned "Shaker"-style cabs a crystal chandy would only work if the visual effect is that of uncalculated irony.

    If you're taking the crystal bling seriously, or even seriously whimsically, then such a sparkly light looks odd.

    The crystal chandy thing has by now progressed from its earliest eye-catching appearances, as in "whoever would have thought of that, but gosh, it so fun-looking and unexpected, it works!" (The first one I recall seeing was a crsytal chandy in a pantry with a transom window over the door in a kitchen that was full of surprising juxtapositions.)

    Nowadays it seems to have gone more mainstream, almost becoming de rigeur in many trendy projects. The thing is that the expectation-bending fun of it has largely evaporated along with the lightnheartedness that counterbalanced the stylistic absurdity of a fixture like that in a kitchen work-space.

    It's become just another element among the assembled pieces of the current kitchen-of-the-moment lexicon. And nobody (at present) is acknowledging the underlying mismatch because it's so commonly seen. But I don't think it will wear as well as other types of lighting that have better, more natural and satisfying stylistic connections to your other elements.

    Please everybody with "Shaker" kitchens (or any other style) with crystal chandys don't think I am damning your choices. I admire kitchens of all flavors! But I took the OP's question seriously enough to try and explain the basis for my answer. Of course, if the OP was just wanting validation for a choice she is longing to make, then I'll happily (and wholeheartedly) chime in: "It's your kitchen, do whatever makes you happy."

    In fact, I think I'll coin a new acronym: IYKDWMYH

    L

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Thanks to all for the excellent & thoughtful advice - I'm always amazed by the depth of design knowledge evident on this website (though definitely not coming from my wee corner!) My problem has been a horrendous, almost 4 yr construction delay, which allowed me to get too fond of too many delightful chandeliers, after a lifetime of indulging spouse's proclivity for macho rusticity. The iron & crystal, imitation K. Ireland number, was purchased in 2007; then there's the wonderful leafy/twig/crystal concoction found in 2009 that may end up in the master bdrm; & most recently, my homage to Schonbeck - just couldn't resist these brilliant hanging strands of crystal - guess I'm finally losing it! I am worried about too much chandy competition in my great room area, but thought I might be able to get away with the glammy island light if I installed it very close to the ceiling, so it wouldn't be in the same eyeline as the dining rm chandy...Now that I'm to have Shaker cabinets, I just might be forced to come back to earth (none too soon!)

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