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17 years ago

A few years ago a young fellow did a very good job gutting and redoing our bathroom. His price was great and we checked his references. He was still learning, but did such a good job we had him do our dining room shortly after. He came on time every day and did a full day's work. He brought in older fellow to do the plumbing and he did a good job, also. We were very pleased. He's a quiet guy who warmed up to us. One day after he finished he and I sat and drank a beer and smoked a cigar. We tipped him when he was done. We learned later the two guys formed a partnership.

Fast forward two years and we contact "the guys" to do a complete kitchen and powder room renovation. It took a while to plan it out, but as usual, they were good to work with. In Feb. or March, without getting any other bids, we considered their price which was on the high end of what we figured it would be. They said they'd be able to start the first Monday in May and we'd be the only job they'd do during the renovation. Because they were a known commodity to us we figured we'd use them.

In late March, as we're looking at cabinets we get another bid from a fellow who does excellent work but who we thought didn't do work in our area (he lives 45 min. away) but as it turns out he was doing work just a few miles away. His bid was about $3,000 lower than the other guys but he couldn't start until the first or second week of June. We talked to the first guys, who lowered their price $1K and we agreed to use them.

In mid-April all our material and cabinets had arrived but we knew we had to wait a few weeks until the guys were available. I heard from another source that earlier that month they squeezed in another job which turned out to be much bigger than they thought. When we speak to the guys, they tell us they're a week behind and volunteer they took on the extra job, which had unforeseen complications. We're not too happy, but appreciate their honesty.

A week later they call and say there's another delay, but they should be here by tomorrow, 5/19 to start demo. We don't hear from them but bump into the second bid fellow, who says a big job canceled and he's available first week of June. Today, as we're packing up our kitchen I call one of the guys, who says we're delayed another 9 days because an outside siding job is going slow because of rainy weather. I let him know we're not happy about yet another delay and that I'm even more unhappy he didn't call to tell us; we had to call him. He knew at least four days ago of the delay. With all due respect to them, I have enough on my plate than to be understanding about why they're delayed,yet again.

So, do we go with "the guys" or with the second fellow? I've seen the second guys work and it's truly excellent. Our inclination is to stick with the men we have but stay on top of the work schedule. We have a very good relationship with the guys and we happen to know the second fellow through our professional and social circle. I'm probably writing this now because I'm irritated. Tomorrow I'll realize the delays may not be such a big deal.

Comments (7)

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Sounds like 'the guys' have plenty of jobs and 'the second fellow' could do with one.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    It certainly seems that way. Around here there are lots of guys who were in the new home building trade who are now doing contracting work. They're undercutting the prices of the regular contractors and by most accounts they don't do as good a job because new home construction is a different animal than GC work.

    The "other fellow" was booked through the summer before he was under bid on two big jobs. "The guys" lost work, as well, and that's why they squeezed in the job that delayed us in the first place.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    If the newer guy's references check out, I'd be inclined to heed the message the universe is clearly trying to send you.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Tough call. If it is really just a 9 day delay at this point, I'd stick with your original guys, since you know they do good work, but make it clear to them that you have other options, so they cannot mis-schedule again. If they are good at what they do, and thoughtful, they should be willing to kick into gear when they get to your job, and hustle to finish since you stayed faithful to them. The newer guy may be fine, but if he is not as good, and anything gets messed up, you could have much more than a 9 day delay, and be kicking yourself for letting the first guys go who were a known quantity.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    ladycfp, I'm too much of a realist to think that way, but you may be right!

    muscat, the second guy is the son of a friend of mine. The father isn't in the contracting business but both father and son are intelligent, exacting men who make sure whatever they do is done correctly as it has their "signature" on it. I've seen the son's work several times and it's not just good, it's excellent. He tends to do higher end homes so I never considered him to begin with. If I'd known about him and his price from the beginning I would've gone with him.

    All that being said, I think we'll stick with the original guys. I'll call again tomorrow and clarify that we're definitely on in 9 days. Any hesitation on their part and we'll switch to the other fellow.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    i'd stick with the known commodity, but i'd have a heart-to-heart with them first where you tell them that the reason you're willing to wait for them is the fact that you want them to do this job the same way they did your last one.

    it's worth a few weeks wait, in the great scheme of things, to know that you're getting high quality work done by qualified people. at least you know they'll stick to the job once the begin.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Is there any way to have a clause put into the contract at this point? Something saying that there will be a financial penalty if work does not begin on X date? Given their record on this job, I would also want a similar clause in regard to a reasonable finish date.

    True, they're a known commodity, and that's not something to be dismissed. But they're not staying true to their record.

    Initially they were supposed to start on May 5, and now, after more than one delay, you're looking at a start date that's almost JUNE. I think that's pretty bad.