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Shower depth if showerhead on back wall?

10 years ago

I am planning on a rainhead, but if we decide against that and get a regular showerhead that sprays on an angle, what minimum depth would be best? I know people have 32" showers, but I want something that won't look or feel cramped. One person shower.

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  • 10 years ago

    I will tell you 32" is cramped. And I will say I HATE having the showerhead and knobs on the back wall. There is no way to turn the water on, without getting at least one's arm wet! Try cleaning and rinsing the shower without getting soaked, can't be done. Mine will be ripped out in the coming months and that showhead moved to the side.

  • 10 years ago

    We have a walkin shower in our master bath that is about 5 ft x 34"--being more narrow than square--

    I don't mind the width--can still turn around w/o hitting the walls and we do have controls on the wall where we step in with shower heads on opposite wall and side wall--

    the only issue is that you can't reduce the flow w/o stepping out of the stream and going toward the entry point...


  • 10 years ago

    Thanks everyone for your input! My design now calls for a 41 " deep shower, 6 ft long. I will put the controls so they will be accessible from the doorway and you could turn it on without getting wet - but it should still be accessible while under the shower. I'm trying to decide if I should put the showerhead on the the shorter side wall or the long back wall. Its kind of a cool looking showerhead so I feel like it should be a focal point. Hansgrohe Rainfall showerl

    If it goes on the side wall. it will be mostly tucked away because the shower reaches back behind a side wall for my vanity. But if its on the back wall, will the 41" be deep enough, or will it look funny and/or feel tight? I don't want to be backing into the glass while showering!

  • 10 years ago

    That is a cool looking shower head! I had a designer tell me to try the rainhead before I installed one. Some people like the gentler feel of the rainhead, others prefer a sharper spray. I see this one has two settings, but thought I'd pass this along.

  • 10 years ago

    Yes, thbennet, I do have concerns about that. I was told by the person at Ferguson that the Hansgrohe airheads have more force than most other brands and she said she would not recommend a rain shower as the only showerhead if it were any other brand. Wish I knew where to 'try" one. But DH wants it, its looks really cool (our space will be contemporary) and I think the waterfall will be OK if I need more force to rinse shampoo. But my hair is short and fine, and DH has very little hair left, so I don't think we'll need it. We will also have a handheld, primarily for cleaning.

  • 10 years ago
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    Ok so you want to put the rain shower along the long wall and will have a 41" depth from entry to the back wall where the shower head will be installed. I think that will be fine. The only thing that you might consider is the distance of spray from the waterfall feature. I have the other style of rainhead and water fall. I have it in a 36" by 60" shower pan. The rain shower is straight down. I like mine because it is 17" wide (spray might be a bit less). I have been underwhelmed by the waterfall, but it does give quick rinsing of the hair. I love the rain shower. here is a picture of mine against the short 36" wall which is actually more like 33" when all is said and done with the tile and the shower doors encroaching into the space. I love mine. When that sucker gets installed be sure to call tech support if there is any doubt on the part of the installer. There are so many configurations with these shower heads and the iBox, my plumber screwed it up and we had to take out the cabinets behind where I had an access panel available. Still a $150 job to remove the cabinets by the carpenter that the plumber paid for.

    My shower is 36x60 rough in. I have thought that it could have been 36x48 easy. So you have to decide how this would work in your 41" depth using your shower head.

    Raindance E 420 AIR 2-Jet Showerhead with Showerarm. Note that there is a bit of deposit developing on the head, I just noticed it when I was taking these pictures the other day. It has been in operation for a year. I cleaned the face of it and need to do a little more. I love it.


    This is deceptive, it is truly a 60" alcove, the perspective makes it look much shorter.

    My low iron shower doors, that I got for free :) It was one big hassle, and "free" was the resolution.
    We will see if these pics turn right side up after posting, cause they are sideways when I inserted the photos (from my hard drive)

    :( they are sideways...

    And for prosperity here are the dimension, using the new screen shot commands I've learned from Linelle and Errant :)


  • 10 years ago

    enduring, to be honest I never considered the size of the rain area might be an issue. Coming from a regular showerhead we may not have noticed, but I see where that would not give the full "rain" effect. And you are correct that it is less than 8" in diameter. They have another model with air jets, at double the cost, and that appears to be slightly larger but not much. I did really like the look of the one I had selected, but I may seriously consider using the one you have instead. If I put it on the back wall, the extra width would fit the space better too. I'm actually thinking I may be able to squeak out another 5" or so of depth for the shower as well which would put it at 45" - or slightly less after allowing for the thickness of the tile.

    BTW, there was another GW member who used the shower I was considering and liked it. This is where I first spotted it. But now I can't find the post. It was maybe 6 months to a year ago.

  • 10 years ago

    I don't recall seeing your shower head on here. Have you talked to anyone that has had personal experience with your prospect? When I got mine I had seen it on GW several years ago. I then went to Ferguson's where a friend works and got her help. She had the opportunity to go to Atlanta where they have the US plant, and try them out. I will try to remember to contact her and get her feedback on the different rain shower heads. I'll let you know.

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  • 10 years ago

    Well, my friend cant exactly remember the shower head you're looking at but did say that it will probably be around 6-7" diameter at the shower spray. She says that recommend 10 or 12" for round rain shower heads. She does like the waterfall feature.


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  • 10 years ago

    Good job on the screenshots, enduring!

    Numbers, I would have never considered the size of the rain head, either, until I stayed in a hotel that had one with a about the size of the one you're looking at. I'm not a wide girl, but felt like it was not sufficiently wetting me.

  • 10 years ago

    Yes, I'm so glad for all the info I get here - Enduring probably saving me from making a very expensive mistake!

  • 10 years ago

    Errant Those are posted pics from my computer, I caved in :( I so wanted to post from my photobucket account.

    Numbers, The advised I got from the friend, who got advice from someone else was to take the flow restricters out of the unit. I can't remember where the restricters were in the valve. There actually may be several. I am not sure if I got all of mine out, but I know I got at least one layer out. It did improve the waterfall flow. It is not as laminar for as long a stream, as the one that my friend observed in Atlanta. She told me to get it more like what the pictures show you need to get the restricters out.

    Another point I can't make loud enough is to be sure you know the plumbing connections to the iBox. I have a post that showed my problem. Each of the special rainshowers seem to have a different valve and a different way to plumb the ibox.

    I was visiting my friend at the Ferguson's yesterday, to ask for her take on the 180 you were looking at, (see above post) and she pulled out a new catalog on installation for the varying valves and heads. Full of beautiful pictures. The one for my 420E 2 jet was illustrated incorrectly !!! I pointed this out and she will share with the rep next time she sees him. There was another catalog that showed it correctly, but it was last years. There is, I suppose, a slight chance that the head and valve have been re-designed to accommodate a new install, but I don't know. Call tech support before you install or have the plumber be very clear on install. Have access to valve and plumbing from the back side of the wall, I am glad I did. I didn't get the shower valve itself tested until after I tiled. That's when the mistake was discovered. It is a very simple system when you get the water hooked up to the the right connection on the iBox :) I would put another one up, if I had another shower :)




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  • 10 years ago

    My shower is a "work in progress." Not trying to hijack this thread, but I'll comment on what I have so far. The architect's plans called for a 48" by 6' shower, which looked too big. So, I resized it to 42" x 6' - which looked perfect to me. Then my designer noticed that it was crowding the space for the free-standing tub, so the shower shrunk to 36" x 6 feet, which is still bigger than my previously cramped 30" by 60" shower.

    At one point, I had planned a bench at the "closed" end. Then I considered going doorless and omitted the bench from the plans. Instead of a bench at the "closed" end, I will have a corner shelf for leg shaving (debating whether height of shelf should be 11" or 14").

    After lots of plan changes, I have a 36"x6' shower with a door (I still need to choose the door). At the suggestion of a gw member, I placed the controls at the end where the door opens and placed the shower head at the opposite end. (this was confusing to the plumber.) The handheld shower head will sit on a hook next to the controls. I have a rainhead in the ceiling in the center. (I still need to choose a rain head - deciding between Hansgrohe and Jaclo.) California water conservation laws allow running only one water source at a time.

  • 10 years ago
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    swguru, keep us posted on your progress, and please post some pics of your space. It sounds a lot like what I am planning. I too am planning a handheld, BTW. And curious as to the space your designer felt was needed for the freestanding tub. I have allowed 5" between edge of tub and walls, with 12" on the end where the floor mounted filler will go. Hoping that will be fine, especially since the tub tapers down from the top edge which will open it up visually.

    Enduring, I have read all your posts detailing your install and I really appreciate the heads up. Especially good to know the catalog is incorrect!

  • 10 years ago

    enduring, hope you are still following this thread. I'm wondering how far out the waterfall sprays? If I put the shower on the back wall, the door will be opposite, perhaps slightly off to one side. If my shower is 41" deep as currently planned, I'm wondering if that will cause leaking outside of the door? Of course, if we are standing in the stream I would think that would divert the water off to the sides, but I wanted your opinion. TIA.

  • 10 years ago

    Hi Numbers, when I mentioned the catalog being wrong, It was the new small catalog that shows many pictures of installations, that my friend at Ferguson's had. It is not the instructions that come with the actual fixture. I also don't know if the new catalog is depicting a new configuation of the valve and fixture that may be different from my older version. Very important to contact tech support to have them run you through the installation just to be sure you know what you're looking at, and installing.

    The waterfall feature on my fixture is very splashy and it may splash out of the shower door. I have water that leaks out of the hing end of my shower door that is on the wall the fixture is mounted on. You can see the hing in one of the photos above. There is a 1/4-1/2" gap between the glass and the tile. The installer said there is a filler that can be put in but I chose to wait and see how the water behaved. So, with the rain-shower function I don't get any water out that location, with the waterfall, I get a fair amount, because it bounces off my body and splashes a lot. I just measured the "touch down" location of the waterfall and it is about 25" from the wall that the fixture is on. But it is very splashy when it hits and my legs get wet when standing out side the shower to turn it on. I never leave the diverter in the waterfall position.


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  • 9 years ago

    Hi all. I have the same question, but we aren't installing a rainhead. It will be a standard showerhead. We are planning on putting the showerhead in the middle of the long wall, pointed toward the other long wall. We are considering a depth of just 36 or 42", and are wondering if that will be deep enough for comfort. I don't want to back up from the showerhead and bump into the back wall.

  • 9 years ago

    enduring, what is your handheld shower? I love those larger handheld ones.