Recessed lighting - Remodel (yes/no) LED Can and Trim/Engine (model)

10 years ago

last modified: 10 years ago

Hi,

I want to install recessed lighting in my house (living room, bedrooms, corridor/walkway). I have called some electricians to give me quotes. I have read about this subject on internet and some excellent posts like below

http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/2814729/has-anything-changed-in-recessed-lcd-lighting-since-2012

So most of the electrician who came they said it will be better that I install remodel kit and read very average reviews about Halo recessed cans (4 out of 5 electrician wants to use this though - cheaper cost, easily available from HD etc.)

After looking at some sets (fixture/housing cans, trim/engine etc.) I have shortlisted the following combination -

Housing Can - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JWXC2XY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1MQPCTL6ZPX3L&coliid=IH63D019H7IHE

Trim/Engine - http://www.amazon.com/TorchStar-UL-listed-Dimmable-Retrofit-Recessed/dp/B00JUO51QU/ref=zg_bs_5486421011_2

Dimmable Switch - http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-6674-P0W-SureSlide-Universal-Incandescent/dp/B0076HPM8A/ref=zg_bs_507840_1

Whatever I have read for the above material it seems to me they are compatible with each other but thought to take expert option about the choice of above materials. I want to use good quality material as i will be paying the same labor cost so I'm fine if there are are best quality and little more expensive. None of the electrician talked about Juno - only 1-2 knew or heard of it. 1 of them said he will do only Nora.

Which wire I should go with the above combination - 14/2 or 12/2?

I'm thinking to propose to these electricians that I will get the material (housing can, trim/engine, dimmer swtich, wire etc.)

Any help in finding the best combination would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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David
10 years ago
If you are getting stuff from HD,

The Cree CR6 module is great and the local pricing may be better than what is available from amazon.

The dimming performance of LED modules varies from vendor to vendor since it depends on the components used.

Since LED modules are used, it would be better to use a dimmer rated for LED e.g. - Lutron's Diva CL instead of an incandescent dimmer.

14 gauge wire is fine for 15A circuits, though some would prefer 12 gauge.

If you intend to get all the material yourself, make sure that you have all the necessary wiring, junction boxes, wire nuts, housings, lamp modules, wire staples, etc ahead of time.

It would be sensible to get stuff from HD/ Lowes instead of from amazon since you'd need to purchase quite a bit and end up having to return/ exchange some.
David
10 years ago
If you're subject to energy efficiency laws (e.g. Title 24), you'd need to get stuff in compliance.
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firsthome_sfh
Original Author
10 years ago
Thanks very much David for replying and suggesting Cree CR6 as a trim/engine & LED exclusive dimmer from Lutron.

I have re-read the above listed dimmer i.e. Leviton 6674. It has a toggler which lets a user select incandescent or LED.

Since my house was built in 1960 - that's why electrician's are suggesting remodel? One of the electrician is the same one who did recessed lighting for my two neighbors. I do have attic access and it is accessible too with not much difficulty.

Thanks for listing other materials which I will need for this project. I can get everything locally just I wanted to use best quality of material for the important parts in this project as I would not like to have frequent problems (flickering, replacing trim/engine, durability etc.) and upfront cost which I'm paying is the same.

Thanks once again.
David
10 years ago
Remodel housing is used when the ceiling is left in place. A hole is cut from the bottom and the housing held in place (against the ceiling board) using clips.

Flickering and other dimming issues could be caused by a number of factors

a. A neutral wire that may float momentarily

b. Dimming range of the light

c. Incorrect dimmer used

d. Electrical noise , ...
firsthome_sfh
Original Author
10 years ago
Thanks David for explaining how the set up will work.

Are you talking about this dimmer from Lutron - http://www.amazon.com/Lutron-DVWCL-153PH-WH-Dimmable-Dimmer-Wallplate/dp/B004C2WTLU/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1425499166&sr=1-1&keywords=Lutron+CFL+dimmer

And you meant CR4 - if I understand correctly CR6 is for 6" and CR4 is for 4"?

If I go with the above selection - are they all compatible and work? My little study said it will work but wanted to get expert opinions.

Thanks.
David
10 years ago
Yes.

The CR6 may fit into some 5" cans but is generally used in 6".

CR4 - 4" cans