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Need advice. Subway tile on uneven kneewall

10 years ago

So I was kinda pissed off when I walked into my bathroom renovation and see some ugly looking cut subway tile to compensate for an angle in the wall they did not notice prior to tiling. Now I am wondering if there is anyway to help alleviate this angle, re tile it in certain areas or if people think once the white grout is in, might not be as noticeable. One idea was to remove the tile in the row with the curve (3") and then lay accent tile around entire shower in that row. Not sure if this would even help cover it up or make it more noticeable with darker colors. Also, the tile going on the sloped wall up was not cut to compensate for the 3/4" slope down so that also is there but to me, not very noticeable. Any recommendations would be helpful, wish they would have brought this to my attention instead of deciding what they were going to do for me.

PS dont mind the two missing pieces, they ran out of thinset.

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  • 10 years ago


  • 10 years ago

    I know they layed the rubber material inside the floor and had it go up the walls about a foot, then poured the concerete and sloped it the the drain. When he installed the bench I was concerned that he was using regular plywood, so while I was out at homedepot I picked up redgard. I asked him what his plan for waterproofing was and he told me he would use the redgaurd. So the only places it is is on the seat, and up both walls above bench. Then I noticed yesterday he painted the floor up to the walls with it as well over top of the cement. Everytime I ask a professional about the work they are doing it keeps coming back bad. Not sure what the hell Im going to do now.

  • 10 years ago

    I was tempted last night to fire them, but wanted to sleep on it. They are off site today, so I figured I would try and reach out to more professionals and see what they advise. Could I have the tiles removed without breaking them? Float the kneewall and ceiling to make even and reapply? I am a complete a novice to this all, but the more I look up, the more nervous I get about the stuff they are doing and the more I want to get someone else in there.

  • 10 years ago

    I think just take out that small area of narrow tile and just grout and/or caulk there, probably wont notice it.

    Or, have them take out the subway tile on the ceiling in that corner and add more mud and feather it out to make it look good.

  • 10 years ago

    I just now have concerns about waterproofing done incorrectly and leaking/repairs that might be needed. I already had to have an outside crew to come in and fix their subcontracted finishing job on the drywall.


  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I think you have other concerns other than the cosmetic slivers of tile. I only count 24 rows of 3"x6" subway tile at the very front of this shower. Add in maybe another 4" for below that isn't tiled and that doesn't add up to the 30" circle at 80" height minimum in front of the fixture that is required for a shower. The bench might could get used by a hobbit or a 6 year old, I suppose.

  • 10 years ago

    The tile is 82" from the floor and the bench sits at 20" from the floor. Standard shower bench is anywhere from 16-18" from what I read so thought I was a bit higher than normal.

  • 10 years ago

    Do you still need to waterproof the blue drywall with Kerdi or other sealer or is it acceptable to tile directly on to the drywall?


  • 10 years ago

    It's the headroom that's concerning, not the bench height. Same thing there for the overall height of the shower. That sloped wall is a head knocker. That's why the 30" circle at 80" is a requirement. Would this happen to have escaped permitting and inspection?

  • 10 years ago

    80" height will be 30" across from slope to glass and 60" wide from wall to wall

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    without gettng iinto the specifics of how your shower is/was built.

    How long has this been bothering you and why dont you have a conversation with your tile team. If you are so mad you want to fire them NOW have you done your part of the communication process?

    2 way st. and these people need to keep food on the table too.....

    If you have sat idol and been afraid to speak, do it now.


    Give them a fair shake to explain how and why.


    You failed to answer if price was your deciding factor in who you hired?? if you have a contract? detailed scope??


    Flood test ???


    next time you will.....




  • 10 years ago

    I can't even imagine how this happened. Either they started at the top, with full tiles, and worked their way down, in which case they should have seen it right away. But then starting at the top and working down is just a nightmare, and wouldn't have ended in straight rows. So they obviously measured and did math to calculate the cut size of the tile at the bottom. So did they just measure one side? How could they have been good enough at their job to know to pre measure and calculate the height of the first row, and NOT be good enough to think to measure both sides?


    BTW, where is the showerhead?

  • 10 years ago

    I will spare you the long version but here is some important notes. This has taken a turn for the worst. After doing research on all the work that has been done so far a few things came up that need to be completely redone. First, they installed tile directly to purple board with no waterproofing membrane. They only used redgaurd for the shower floor and on the seat, but also built the seat out of regular plywood. So all the tile need to come out and be replaced after redgaurd goes up everywhere. Secondly, the wall 1 foot above the kneewall on the right hand side sloped inwards aggressively. If this section is mudded and feathered to level we can retile all the way back up and it will be flush and true. Other issue we saw was that they installed 1/4" wonderboard to the 3/4" existing plant subfloor only to support porcelain tile yet to be installed. They used a mortar bed to adhere the wonderboard to the planks and now Im not sure the best way to increase support for the tile without doing plywood and then like kerdi on top. Its going to create some really high tile and interfere with bedroom to bathroom threshold. As of right now I had the owner come out, gave him all the info, photos and tech sheets of everything done incorrectly and told him I will not accept anything other than a tile tear down fix and retile. Thinking hes figuring out how much we're both into the project so that we can settle up and part ways. This all was on top of some seriously f*ed up finishing work that I had to hire an outside company come to fix costing my an additional 1,000. A lot of lying as well but I will spare those details. Thanks for the help everyone.

  • 10 years ago

    Shower head is off center to the right of valve on right side, water output for valve on left wall is below it and will be a handheld on a slide bar to the left of valve.


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