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Possible to make a decent living as a professional gardener?

10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

I've been really interested in eventually changing careers to the professional gardener/landscape designer/horticulturalist field (I'm in my early 40s). I live near a community college with a highly-regarded horticulture program (Edmonds Community College, just north of Seattle, Washington). My main concern is whether or not I can really make a decent salary. I work in a computer-centered profession right now, and I make a decent income (probably a little below the median in the Seattle area), so I'm not looking to get rich and retire early. But I do have a family, and want to contribute meaningfully to our finances (my wife also works, and has always made more money than me).

There seems to be a disconnect between horticulture/landscape education and the reality of the industry. I've read several recent articles lamenting the fact that people aren't signing up for horticulture programs, and many horticulture education programs are closing due to low enrollment. But when I go out and review landscaping/gardening job announcements, the wages are just way too low. For instance I've seen multiple job vacancies with companies looking for a landscape crew lead, expecting someone with several years experience, plant ID knowledge, irrigation tech knowledge, etc. but the salary is around $15 per hour (which is soon to be the minimum wage in Seattle!). Frankly, that just seems ridiculous. In a big city like Seattle, with a pretty high average cost of living, there's know way someone could even survive on that kind of money, much less be reasonably comfortable, save for retirement, etc.

Or am I just thinking too narrowly about what I can do in the horticulture field? I'd love to work for a botanical garden, or install green roofs/walls, or do residential landscape design and installation... but I've also primarily been looking at job openings on Craigslist to get a sense of salaries, so maybe this is not a good indication of the range of horticulture-related jobs?

Any insight or feedback is greatly appreciated! Thanks!

Jesse

Comments (9)

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Thanks for the feedback! That's encouraging to hear (I mean, read).

  • 10 years ago

    I think the problem is that people are not willing to pay more because there are many unskilled working for $15. But your idea with the green roofs is maybe good, provided there is not so much competition in the area. The advantage is that you could sell the soil mixture, the plants and the labour and you work for big companies and people who can afford something.
    I would ponder around various ideas like that, like greywater systems, ponds, specialized plant nurseries, medicinal herbs, green facades, .....
    I think it is possible to make a living as a landscaper, but then you would have to employ people and that is a very different thing to work in a botanic garden, with very specialized needs of plants.... do you really want that? You could as well resell and setting up something like aquaponic systems or some product to grow veggies in a very small space or mushroom spore, give gardening classes.... First get more ideas!!

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Yes, it is possible to make a 'decent' living in the landscape industry but as previous posters have said, it may not happen immediately and a lot depends on your specific career path.

    I am a graduate of the Edmonds CC program myself and it IS excellent ( or certainly was when I graduated going on 20 years ago). I chose to focus on design ( I had a previous design background) and I have had my own design business since before graduation. Since it is a slow process to develop a design business and can also be a little isolating if you work from home, I chose to work at a large retail nursery as well. I had pretty extensive gardening experience before Edmonds and with my horticultural degree from there, nailing down nursery employment was easy-peasy. I wound up being their Information Coordinator, writing handouts, supervising their info booth and coordinating and presenting classes and seminars. Nursery work was also a great source of design referrals as well.

    Since that first nursery experience, I have branched out to work at a couple of other nurseries in various capacities, all of which paid me an adequate (if not luxurious) living wage. I also continued to teach and do landscape design, which generated a pretty good income as well. I now do design and consultation only, supplemented with classes and speaking engagements, and can live easily on that income.

    And FWIW, the landscape contractor I most often refer to and work quite closely with generates (as far as I can tell) a very healthy income - enough to support a family of 5 in a lovely and beautifully landscaped home, maintain and support a year round work crew, purchase all the heavy equipment he needs, and winter annually in Mexico.

    So yes, it IS possible :-) Good luck with your career change and keep us posted on your progress.

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks so much for your feedback gardengal! I really appreciate the response!

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Go into business for yourself, be the boss, dont work for someone else, as you continue to work at your primary job, start developing a small business plan, the name of your company and then it starts to become real, if you have the passion for it wont be considered work when doing it, if you work for someone well you know the story. Maybe see if there is a horticulture program you can do online save money & time. There is big money to be made but you have to be the owner of the company! hope this helps.

    jesselangdon thanked southern_calif
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Your not going to make a decent salary working for someone else. The horticulture industry is basically a blue collar level of worker or retail which of course does not pay like something requiring high level skills like computers. The problem with horticulture is that there is too much free information available out there for people to research and come up with their own solutions. If you have a passion for plants, fine, but how do you leverage your future knowledge of plants (i.e. a degree in Horticulture or Landscape Design). Plus, there are a lot of Master Gardeners out there who do not charge money for their knowledge.

    My advice is take an entrepreneurial approach rather than focusing on employment. Think of something within the industry that is a niche that you could become an expert in. By coming up with a business idea, you dont have to worry about not having the experience to get a job, or have credible design experience if you have never designed a residential landscape. Believe me, just having a degree does not make you a decent designer. You may have book knowledge of plants, etc. but no field experience or learning what works in different spaces.

    There is a big difference between horticulture and say landscape design. Yes, landscapes do contain plants, but there is much more to a landscape than the plant material. The hardcape areas including patios, walls, fencing, driveways, gazebos, outdoor kitchens, waterfeatures, etc. all must be designed in a cohesive manner. The softscape, primarily the plants and ground covers that surround the hardscape are basically secondary. You must have knowledge and design ability in all aspects of landscaping to be a landscape designer. So dont focus on horticulture alone.

    If being your own boss turns you off because its too risky you're not going to be able to switch careers and make as much money as you do now. The "green industry" does not pay well unless you are something like a branch manager for a large landscape company. The only jobs that pay decent wages are ones that you will need years of experience. A CC degree alone is not enough.

    While working at a botanical garden may seem romantic if you like being around plants, people volunteer to do that so dont expect to receive a decent wage. Instead, get certified or specialize in a type of niche and set yourself apart from everyone else who loves plants:
    Certified Nurseryman
    Certified Arborist
    Certified Irrigation Auditor
    Certified Lawncare Specialist
    Water Conservation Specialist who uses primarily native plants, low water irrigation systems, rainwater catchment systems, i.e. Sustainable Landscaping -- which is the buzz word of the decade.





    jesselangdon thanked JSL Landscape Design
  • 9 years ago

    Thanks so much for your response! It's great to hear someone explain the unvarnished truth about the realities of the industry.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Another option is private estate gardening. I am 49 and have been earning my living as an estate gardener for over 20 years. My position has always been as the sole gardener for one estate where I was provided housing/utilities, health benefits and salary. However, I do know others who do estate gardening for many properties on a weekly or bi-weekly basis. These folks seem to do quite well, but it greatly depends on where you live. Being in the Hudson Valley, NY, just outside NYC, there are a lot of wealthy New Yorkers with weekend homes that need tending.