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Log cabin KITCHEN reno... PLAN advise appreciated!!!

10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

Guess the layout is the place to start but... comments on anything would be welcome...

We enter mostly from a door off breakfast area, not the door you can see.

Looks beautiful on paper but removing the peni doesn't really open anything up because of that loved seating we use often backed up to it. Lengthened the peninsula and moving the cook top there added nicer prep area.

That SS top you might have noticed moving about is my island... :)

About use... just myself n DH, we both cook but NOT at the same time! :)


Comments (34)

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    OK... I thought the pictures would actually show up there... ????

  • 10 years ago

    Did you click on the photo icon below to post?

  • 10 years ago
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    I'm trying to correct it.. will do that. I was able to correct it by uploading from my computer but the photobucket ones would not load so I just changed them, thanks.

  • 10 years ago

    already so helpful... haha!


  • 10 years ago

    Thanks, its's charming alright but in reality doesn't work well and quite old! We have made do with it for about 6 years while I redid my bathrooms. They are completed thank goodness...


  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Putting the copy n pasted code in the 'photo' box from Photobucket didn't seem to work either, guess these will work but there was something about clicking on them and they would be bigger w/PB??? They do get bigger for me...

  • 10 years ago

    I can see your photos in the op. The click and enlarge is working too.

    Are you okay with that longer peninsula isolating your breakfast area? It looks like it may be awkward to go around. What about leaving the peninsula off and putting in a narrow fixed island? (It may be too tight for an island, is the run of cabinets where you have the oven drawn 8'?) if you could do that, it would allow better flow to the table. Also, is that door used infrequently enough that the frig location isn't a problem? It looks potentially traffic jam causing!

    Maine Susan thanked nancyjwb
  • 10 years ago

    They get bigger for me, too. I like to do a cropped version so I can concentrate on the kitchen (old eyes, haha).


    Maine Susan thanked mama goose_gw zn6OH
  • 10 years ago
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    Hi Nancy... The longer peni wouldn't be much different than what we have now. The breakfast area is so small and w/woodstove we need the chairs backed up to peni. I did like how it looked w/no pennisula and a different island but the chairs so block it off anyway. I actually wish I could make the whole thing like one big room but can't figure out how. You can kinda see that area in the photo... or I could take another pic of it. With so many windows (love them) and the woodstove, it is hard to move much around, but I am certainly very open to discussioin.
    I do like the idea of the peni w/cook top as I can enjoy our beautiful view out said windows!

  • 10 years ago

    Nancy, I edited the OP to fix the pictures. DH is the only one who has to walk around the peni as it is...

  • 10 years ago

    Ahh, I see your diagram clearer now that I'm on the computer instead of my phone! Definitely not room for a fixed island as I see it's 80" not 8'.

    Your woodstove/breakfast area looks so cozy, I love it!

    I still think I would still lose the peninsula. Your diagram shows 93" between the windows on that wall. You could have 24 or 18" on the table side of the range and still have more room between the sink and range than you have now. You would have less overall counter space, but you would gain a more open feel to the room. Also you could keep your vent hood to the outside instead of having to resort to a downdraft.

    If you would do that, you would most likely want your dishwasher on the other side of the sink, even around the corner. Prepping over a dishwasher is hot and steamy when it's running, and unhandy when others want to load/unload while you're busy cooking. In your version, you have enough counter space between sink and cooktop that you would probably be okay with it.

    Now that I can see your diagram clearer, I see that you have cabinets to counter drawn in on the oven wall. I really like the look of those, but they do take up counter space which you may not be able to afford to lose. Do you like to bake? That would be an ideal stretch of counter for that.

    I can't read what type or size of oven you have drawn in there. Is that the microwave above it?


    Maine Susan thanked nancyjwb
  • 10 years ago

    Can the oven/MW go next to the antique cupboard, or would a range instead of a cooktop+oven be fine?

    Here's an idea. I moved the DW and the sink to the peninsula and the range to the short wall. So you'd be facing windows when cleaning up and part of your prep area would be under a window. I got rid of the wheeled cart as it seemed to crowd the space. MW is next to the cupboard. I wrote down some measurements for cabs that I think can work, but as I'm no expert I may be totally wrong. With this arrangement, you can have about 15" more for the eating area while still have more than 7' for prep.



    I think the 27" deep cab facing the breakfast can be for seldomly used things and you can have a pet area in front of it.




    Maine Susan thanked sena01
  • 10 years ago

    OK, exciting stuff suggested here! First off, computer stuff, I figured out to open two browser tabs side by side so I can answer these better. Memory fades...

    Nancy... sorry yes that's 80" not 8', all my measurements are in inches... seemed easier. We love the woodstove area too, especially with our Maine winters.

    On the stove side of the peni are our two big chairs, we could lose the little table between chair and could change out the big round table to something smaller but still eating height. I love eating at a table where DH/leather chair doesn't mind doing w/o. This shows a little better the area. Anyway, how much more open might it feel... guess I can actually put a new set up there to figure out!?! Actual flow to the chairs/table is not a problem as is but I do like the idea of looking more like one big area.


    As for the door you see, that is not used very much and there really is no problem with the frig there... but I did just realize that frig is a CD and needs to stay one for the reason you mention. Our main door is in the diagram way over on the R near the foot of the stairs, on the bkfst room side.

    Our current vent hood just recycles, so moving the stove down would not mean a big hole through the logs in the wrong spot. I guess we should put in a 'real' vent/with hole thru logs :( if I go with that stove along that wall.

    Don't want DW on left of sink... I need that foot there for Super Susan in corner... tired of that lost tavern down there! Wish also rules out DW on that wall to the left. I will just have to avoid prepping while DW is on... I already run HOT enough and hadn't thought of that!

    I don't mind the uppers to the counter as prefer the small applicances inside an appl. center over than... give n take ya know? I don't bake much and will still have a landing area be it smaller. Also the movable island is very handy (if I still have it).

    I am thinking a 27" oven raised a bit, we are tall, stepped back to a MW above it. Also a 30" cooktop. Will probably keep the extg frig for a bit, but needs to be CD (still) and less than 34" wide... that seems to be a little problematic in itself for bottom freezers, especially French door... w/o spending huge $$$ anyway.


  • 10 years ago

    Sena... hi! The idea of the oven/MW moving by the old cupboard sounds nice and it would not be such a visual walking in the door we use most, not the one shown. It would fit there fine.

    I'll have to study your plan n my space more about the rest of the idea of putting the stove on that other wall. I like the prep area below the window, if not the sink... that's an interesting idea. That little eating area is kinda cramped because of the wood stove but luckily it is not the main DR just a morning/aft quick n easy spot.

    BTW I am thinking to have no built-in uppers on that longest wall. Want to use an old cupboard up there and some open shelving.

    Kinda funny, you and the KD made that pantry as uppers/lowers... maybe that is the way to go. Then I have counter space for my stuff I now have exposed on my white cubby. :) I think I do need to go that route!


  • 10 years ago

    BTW all... those windows in the breakfast area are 78". then there is another 38" to the corner where the wood stove sits up on brick. That total wall is about 23'. I ran out of room on my plan drawing... plan a h e a d... right! oops

  • 10 years ago

    Sena's plan is very good if you want to stick with a peninsula. It gets the dishwasher out of your prep area and gives you a lovely stretch of counter under your window.

    I'll look forward to seeing what you decide!


  • 10 years ago

    A couple more pics of breakfast area:



  • 10 years ago

    Kinda funny, you and the KD made that pantry as uppers/lowers... maybe that is the way to go.

    I thought you'd be using the white cab you now have, that's why I had the pantry that way. But I'd prefer a full depth tall cab with drawers or at least rollouts at the bottom part and shelves above. Since you're tall and the height of the cab would be limited by the logs I'm guessing it won't be too hard to use the deep shelves.

  • 10 years ago

    Nancy, at this point I am not too keen on the way Sena's peni area works out... mostly the dead space of 27" facing the eating area and anything facing that area is not convenient with the needed two chairs back to that. The pictures sure help... I have not figured out how to use a program like that so quickly... sighs. I have been imagining her plan, while standing in the kitchen and having lunch. I do like the idea of pantry having counter too and the oven/mw over on the frig wall. But, as is, the Rinaii WH is right under the sink (in basement) and there already is an outlet for the oven where it was in my plan (past owner had washer n dryer stack there). Since we have a full basement moving such might not be too bad though. The rest will take more thought. Keep the ideas coming...

  • 10 years ago

    Sena... this quirky house... that area will not accommodate the white cupboard.... it is only 17" deep right there as the bathroom on the other side of that wall has 'stuff' in there. The frig area is deeper, 24". The white cupboard, as perfect as it is for my baking will have to go. :(

  • 10 years ago
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    Just a quick idea....orange stars are lighting :)

    The fridge could go back to its original place by the pantry....or over by the prep sink, if that's even a possibility.

    And with main prep area under window, maybe the sink could have a plate rack over it. This kitchen looks like the perfect space for a kitchen table and a few smaller chairs...as well as the larger chairs by the wood stove. Hope this helps!

  • 10 years ago

    Lavender... hi again! Glad you found me over here... hehe The frig is now where you have the O/MW. the frig makes the space tighter yet, though I do like it there... it's kinda out of sight of the first glance coming into the front door towards the other end and that hall right there at frig goes to the LVR.

    I don't think this kitchen is wide enough for much of an island and not seating for sure, plus that seating by wood stove is perfect albeit cramped, we also have a dedicated DR.

  • 10 years ago
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    Those chairs in the bkst area need to be all the back to where the windows start because of the heat of the wood stove. Not that that makes much difference on your plan per se, but that is the reason I am not sure no peninsula will make the room better??? and worth losing the cupboard space???

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  • 10 years ago

    Nice to see you, too! I really like the cabin...it's charming :)

    What about something like this?



  • 10 years ago
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    Bettter, what is that across the hall aisle from the frig...? :) I think Sena's placement of the O/MW there is better, with my big ole cabinet next to it. Not so obnoxious looking from entry.

  • 10 years ago

    I didn't know if you want to keep your antique cupboard in that location...but this shows a prep sink next to the oven/microwave.

    It gives you a baking/snack area by the fridge, along with the prep sink...which is handy to microwave, oven (second oven?) and fridge. Do you plan to have a cooktop or range (which would be first oven)?


    Maine Susan thanked Lavender Lass
  • 10 years ago

    Don't need the prep sink, this kitchen is really rather small. I do want to keep the green cupboard... it holds a lot of stuff! Also I like a little more antique, unfitted look than all the commercial cabs. Like with an old wall cupboard n open shelves in one area, all the window wall..

    I am wanting just a cook top and the built in oven ( raised w/drawers under)... thinking to step the top of that cupboard back w/cupboards to meet that counter material on that surface or w/MW above (need one somewhere). We cook most meals at home but nothing fancy and don't even use our oven tons. Hoping to get coffee pot, toaster n vita-mix hidden behind some pull up door or something.

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  • 10 years ago

    Here are a couple pictures a KD put together as a 1st look. We haven't meet since and I have also asked her to come up with a peninsula design too.


  • 10 years ago

    One more peninsula layout. This one has a corner sink. The narrow open cab on the prep side of the sink can be for cutting boards/cookie sheets or towels.





    Maine Susan thanked sena01
  • 10 years ago

    We worked at a plan about like that w/cooktop there but it seemed like it wasted so much good space in that corner I didn't really like it. the sink is smaller so would fit better. Otherwise the sink is so nice at the window... the gardens are very pretty out that way.

  • 10 years ago

    So today I am going to a better appliance store and hope to make some decisions. The cabinet peeps/KD suggested to choose them at this point to progress to better decisions on sizing etc.

    We also have guys here working on the ceilings just to renew n brighten them a bit by sanding. Quite a mess of sawdust some filtering through our efforts to halt, furniture moved aside n covered. We opted to do some stuff in stages despite the hassle of moving things perhaps a couple times in exchange for less time completely a mess! Plan on refinishing all the floors too but not sure just when, except I will have to at least sand down the kitchen area between out with the old and in with the new.

    Thanks for all you efforts and listening... MS

  • 10 years ago

    Please, post some pictures during the process! I'm doing my kitchen in stages, too. We can't afford to do it all at once...and my mom is moving down at the end of summer and we need to bring in a few of her appliances.

    It may take longer, but it will be exactly what we want...and it gives me time to shop at all my favorite places. Craigslist, Goodwill, Ebay sales, etc. :)

    We're doing an unfitted kitchen look and I think your kitchen is going to look amazing! It's not for everyone, but I do think if you're okay with an eclectic vibe and 'out of the box' storage ideas....it ends up being a lovely, unique space!


  • 10 years ago

    Thank you, I too am more of an 'unfit' (hehe) person. The plan posted above the KD did looks cold n too modern as is, but won't when I am done with it. Although I will make some suggested changes. Learning a lot on here, a lot of different options, whether I use them (in total) or otherwise. I have always been one to consider and want to know all options...


    I will post pics along the way, it's fun to share thoughts etc. and really enjoy others comments. It's fun just looking at lots of things here, whether I comment or not. Much more fun than FB for poking around!


    I am relieved to have my appliances picked out, course until ordered one never knows. Will look thru the appl feed here on GW some more.

    I have one more line of cabinetry, InnerMost by Elkay that I might prefer that looks quite nice to me. Need to make appointment w/KD with them.... HDepot.

    Anyway, am feeling confident after all the discussions here and more excited to proceed...

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