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Brand New Gardener. Seeking advice. Questions within.

The internet is a deep deep resource with conflicting accounts on so many different topics, so I thought I'd just dive in and get my hands dirty. I'm a first time homeowner, first time gardener in Grand Rapids, MI (Zone 5b) and as a chef, I'm all about fresh vegetables and herbs. So I thought, what better what to get the freshest than to start growing my own?!

As I'm sure most beginners experienced, I got overwhelmed with all the knowledge you provided from the internet, and frankly finding a place to begin is the hardest part. I decided to start three projects at once, and well you'll see how that's working out. I began building a coldframe, a 3 compartment compost bin, and a raised bed garden (it will be eventually). I have a 2 year old, and a 2 month old, so my time is always thin and getting things done doesn't always happen as fast I'd like.

I'm the bearded one.


Everything I'm doing is being built from reclaimed pallet wood and the cheapest plants or seeds I can find.

I started with the cold frame.


All that's left to do is outfit the inside with styrofoam for insulation, attach the window, and add the handles.

All the cuts for the compost bins and all the corners and center pylons have been constructed, but it hasn't been put together, and I have no pictures of that.

I seeded early, but killed everything but the Jalapenos, Bell Peppers, Parsley, and Basil. The dead include Cherry and Beefsteak Tomatoes, and just about every other major herb. I determined that I over-watered at the beginning and killed most of them. I didn't have them under enough light, nor in a steady temperature environment, and I planted like 6-8 seeds per socket in the flat. Learned that lesson.

So I started on the garden once I was able to maintain the ones that survived, and I just bought some Tomatoes, Chard, Thyme, Oregano, Rosemary, and Brussel Sprouts. I direct seeded some Pole Beans, Okra, and Carrots.

I started by removing the sod and transplanting to a part of my yard that was missing grass. The garden is 15 x 7.


I did it with a String guides, a flat shovel, some gloves, a hand cultivator, and a tree saw (for cutting the roots deep,) and my 2yo's toboggan (for moving the sod.)

The left and the right sides of the garden are planted now and there's nothing in the middle. On the left side, I added 3 bags of topsoil and 1 bag of mushroom compost to the side with the tomatoes on it, but did nothing but cultivate the side with the beans. Here's what it looks like.


My cat sat on and killed the Tomato plant in the middle, I've since replaced it, and planted a Brussel Sprout as well. The Chard had just been transplanted in and not yet watered when this photo was taken. They're looking much better right now.

My problem is that something is eating the leaves on my Beans, and I'm afraid my Okra is next. These things look similar to ants, but I don't think they are, or they're just some breed I've never heard of before. I do have regular ants in there as well, but they're black and small. They're also on in the middle. These munchy critters are burrowing near the bean plants. I don't really want to drop any poison on my stuff, but I will if I have to. I'd like to know what to do about these bugs. I have a video below, but I can't get a close up picture because my phone won't focus on them, and they won't sit still.

Any other pointers about the other things in my garden would be nice. I'm pretty sure I planted things too close to my tomatoes, oh I added tomatoes cages to them today so they have some structure. And I've fertilized once with Miracle-Gro Vegetable Food. The pink stuff.

I eventually plan on installing an 18" fence around the garden (pallet wood), and converting it to a raised bed garden next year. I'll also be building a 6' structure for the beans to climb. Keep in mind that I've got less than $100 in all three of these projects (with the exception of the original purchase that started all of this, my Makita Compound Sliding Miter Saw. <3 $220 at the pawn shop!)


Here's the bug video.


So, I know this is a lot, but thank you for reading all of it, and I'm so very appreciative to any and all advice! Thanks!

Tim.

Comments (8)

  • 10 years ago

    Video doesn't seem to work.


  • 10 years ago

    Video should work now. Sorry.

  • 10 years ago

    Have you actually seen the ants eating the bean leaves? I've grown vegetables for a long time and never had ants bother anything. Look on the underside of the leaves for the larvae of bean beetles or for aphids which could attract ants. Re the rest of your questions, I've had a hard time matching your descriptions with your pictures. Maybe try one picture and one question at a time?


  • 10 years ago

    Well there really is only one question. What's eating my beans? Everything else is just a progress report and request for advice.


    I have not seen the ants eating the leaves but I've seen them on the leaves. Upon further inspection, I found this guy.


    He was promptly squashed along with two others. So I'm assuming this is what's eating them, but what is it and what can I do? Also, should I be concerned about ants?

  • 10 years ago

    Looks like some sort of bean beetle. Look on the undersides of the leaves for other beetles or their larvae and remove or wash off.


  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Thank you so much for the encouragement and the advice.

    I found some garden cloth at a yard sale to keep my garden weed free next year. I plan on extending the garden by another 8 feet and completely utilizing every inch of space. This year was more of a "throw it in the ground and learn" experience. I had no experience and no one close to me to ask for guidance. So I googled things when I had a question and just went with my gut on what I thought would be best.

    I'll try to find that book and definitely have a stronger game plan for next years garde . As for now, here's an update on how everything looks.

    This is the 3 compartment compost bin I completed. I'm not entirely sure how I'm supposed to be using it, but I basically put "green" food in an empty compartment and every Monday I rotate the compost on top of the greens.

    This is my coldframe. It's too tall and I'm going to fix that soon. It still needs insulation, but I'm essentially just waiting to use it in the late winter/early spring.

    I built a fence structure for the beans but realized about 2 weeks afterwards that they're actually bush beans not pole beans. Next year then. The middle is empty and my 2 year old loves to dig there.

    Left to right: Beefsteak, Cherry, San Marzano.

    Herbs, San Marzano, Jalapeños, Bell Peppers.

    Okra, 2 Carrots, Bush Beans. The beans got attacked pretty hard by these weird black beetles and have been stunted the entire time.

    Cherokee Beefsteak, Brussel Sprouts, Chard. The chard was planted as a sacrificial plant to the woodchuck that loves under my shed. But he's laid off of it (and my carrot greens) lately so I've harvested it a few times. My cats sleep in the garden and protect it from the birds, woodchuck, skunks, raccoons, squirrel army, and chipmunks that roam my yard.

    Anyway,this is what I've accomplished this year. I lost one cherry plant because it got dwarfed by the plants around it. I planted everything too close together. I also lost two bean plants for the same reason. I planted about 25 carrots and only had 2 survive. I had some very heavy rain in the beginning and the ground where the carrots were became a small pond so they drowned. Now I know to level the ground out.

    Thanks for reading.

  • 10 years ago

    Congrats on a very impressive start! I love all that you've done. Good cat, extra biscuit!

    As you experiment, you will learn what performs best for you, even if some of your favorites frustrate you. Sorry about the beans. Look for scarlet runner beans next year; a very old-fashioned climber named for its scarlet blossoms. Grown for the seeds inside the pods, not for the tough pods themselves.

    Compost: My father kept two large ones going hidden behind a tall fence. He added to one all season, occasionally throwing on some dirt from the other, and churning as you describe. The other one was the year-old pile from which he took dirt to enrich in the spring. Grass clippings from lawn mowing are great. Autumn leaves work too, but not oak, as they don't decompose. If you have prolonged dry weather, hose it down a few times. Beware of spontaneous combustion; don't set it up against a building! But that heat kills weed seeds, so it is valuable.

    Keep a thermometer in your cold frame. When the season comes to use it, beware of tender plants cooking when your back is turned. When the sun shines into it, you may need to prop the glass up a couple of inches to let some of the accumulated heat and moisture out, and of course close it in late afternoon to trap heat. Decomposing compost and manure in the bottom can generate heat to get it through the night (I've read about this but never tried it).

    Sorry about the carrots. They like deep sandy soil (which is why New Orleans cookery evolved a mirepoix with bellpeppers instead of carrots). Maybe if your dreamed-of raised bed becomes a reality you can try again.

    Extending the garden: the slippery slope of a true gardener! :-)


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