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What climbing rose bush would look good here, zone 5?

10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

Hi everyone..I am a beginner when it comes to gardening, but I am a fast learner and have been scanning the rose section reading all the posts and I'm thinking I want to be a part of the rose clan, LOL!!! I already have a few bushes but apparently I've been watering them wrong because they were getting brown and crunchy so I've upped the watering quite a bit but it's only been two days so can't say much about their progress since. The two types I have seem to be roses that either are really new as far as variety or maybe just undesirable roses? Because I can never find much info about them (Climbing America 'body bag) and climbing 'Can Can' rose...the climbing America has like one leafy stem coming off it but that's about it, and the can cans were the ones that looked pretty brown and crunchy..not sure if it's the spot I have them in or what but they're up against a chain link maybe with the temps it's too much? Idk but anyway I want some others to put against the back of my garage so I'd like a climbing variety..preferably a faster grower? But again I need easy because I'm far from a rose expert lol..any recommendations? This is the area I want them to go..

Comments (32)

  • 10 years ago

    My first question would be is that stain wood siding? If yes It would make a difference in the size of the climber you would want there.

  • 10 years ago

    I'm not familiar with that site dublinbay, but I'll check it out..and that is painted wooden clapboard siding we will be painting it a dark charcoal gray color though before the planting

  • 10 years ago

    That site didn't offer me much help on an easy to grow climber that would look good in that spot lol, I think I'm just THAT new to gardening that even that site which is prolly easy for most to navigate through, but for me that all seemed foreign ...I just wanted a few names that maybe someone could throw out there for me to look into..but I guess I'll go with the one that seems to be most popular which is the 'New Dawn' climber..I seem to see this name a lot so people seem to like to grow it, I heard it's pretty disease free which is a good thing for me because I wouldn't know where to start when trying to figure out what was wrong with it..but in some pictures it looks really mammoth so that does scare me a bit..I don't want it to creep onto my house and take over that!? Not sure if that's from one bush or multiple bushes in some pics because others they don't look as big?

  • 10 years ago

    Ok forget it about New Dawn LOL!! I've read more on that, and I'm not ready to tackle that beast!! So I'm thinking about this one here....http://www.heirloomroses.com/lord-hotspur.html

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Here are several climbers I grow and love.

    Climbing Eden (Pierre de Ronsard) is one of the most beautiful climbers there is. I strongly recommend it. Eden climber at HMF

    I also grow Dublin Bay--perhaps not quite as prolific as Eden, but a good popular red climber. Dublin Bay at HMF. I'm not sure if it is cold hardy enough for you however.

    A newer and very promising climber in my yard is Austin's The Wedgewood--its a pink beauty and seems to be a strong bloomer. The Wedgewood at HMF

    All three are fairly good on bs resistance.

    The main problem with growing climbers in Zone 5 is that they tend to suffer winter damage and have to be pruned down low each spring--so they never get very tall.

    Hope that helps.

    Kate

  • 10 years ago

    If you can find Above and Beyond locally, it's supposed to be very hardy. I just bought one so I can't tell you how it will do. It's hard to find though because it's new!

  • 10 years ago

    If you want an older rose that is a very vigorous and prolific climber, you might want to consider Ghislaine de Feligonde. It is a lovely multiflora and quite bs resistant (and tolerant of shade also). Mine is in its second year and I'm so excited about seeing it bloom for the first time--lots of buds now. It is hardy to Zone 5. Ghislaine de Feligonde.

    Kate

  • 10 years ago

    I have seen the Eden rose and I did really like that one!! Have you ever heard of the 'Lord Hotspur' rose? I really liked that one..this area gets FULL sun morning noon and night..southern facing wall...I will look into Ghislaine rose for sure!!!

  • 10 years ago

    Ok I just looked at that rose and it's beautiful!! As far as prepping that wall for a climber what do suggest I do prior to planting? The wall has big hooks to the left and right of the window do I hang more like those up higher and then string wire or something to attach the climber to to train it? Not too sure what I would do...

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Yes, isn't Ghislaine wonderful! Sorry, I've never heard of Lord Hotspur, so can't help you there.

    As far as helping the rose climb, I've never done it up a wall, so there are others who can probably tell you better than I can how to do that, but if I understand it correctly, you don't need to continuously tie the rose up all along the length of the canes. Just periodically add ties so nothing sags. I suppose if there is a wire you can periodically tie the rose along the wire also.

    Hope you take some pics--love to see Ghislaine clambering up your wall. : )

    Kate

  • 10 years ago

    What is your vision for this wall? I'm thinking you may be better off with a large shrub than an official climber.


  • 10 years ago

    I want something that makes people think 'WOW, how beautiful!' And I also want less 'green' I need color and scent would be nice as well..I just want my yard to be pretty and serene like a getaway seeing I live in the city so I'd like my yard to make me forget that lol

  • 10 years ago

    You could put up a couple large trellises (secure them well, since they have to carry a big load) placed about a foot or two away from the side of the structure (so that there is air flow and the structure surface doesn't get damaged from moisture), and if the rose gets even higher, then consider putting up some kind of hooks and wires for support.

    I think a couple large trellises would be cool--one on each side of the little window, perhaps a shorter one directly under the window to get the climber started upward--then guided out and around the window. Ghislaine is a rather wide growing rose, so I think that would work perfectly. You can get wooden or metal trellises that are about 8-10 ft tall (which is about the maximum height of Ghislaine) and the trellises would look decorative against the wall in the winter, for instance. I'd definitely go with the trellises myself--but to each his/her own. : )

    Kate

  • 10 years ago

    I think it depends on your personal taste on what types of roses you like. Are you more attracted to old garden blooms, modern blooms such as high centered or hybrid teas blooms or single petalled blooms etc.

    You need to find out if the rose you select will be cane hardy as well, meaning their canes may not survive the winter. In my zone for example, each year most of my climbers will start from the bottom again as opposed to warmer zones, where they will continue to grow on their existing canes. This is partly due to my stubbornness to grow roses I really like despite cane hardiness...lol. In my zone, Eden for example is not cane hardy. I've decided that regardless I will grow it to have the rose as a specimen. I had to prune her to the ground this spring like most of my climbers and she produced new canes and currently have a few blooms but it will never be a true climber so I treat it as a shrub.

    I would also add that no matter what rose you choose, it should contrast while harmonize with the background colour. I would not choose a dark red rose for example as it would blend and may not pop out against the reddish background. Ghislane and Above and Beyond would look great. They have all that apricot colours but would eventually turn white which will be great against a red background.

    At the same time, I don't know if your area is really prone to rose diseases. Generally speaking all areas have its own problems but some locations and zones are more prone to mildew, blackspots etc. The only way to know is to ask people locally or grow them to find out. In my area for example black spot is a problem later in the season. I don't really have too much problems with mildew or rust. After growing roses for so many years, only one plant have mildew and another have rust. Thereafter, you have to decide if you are going to spray chemicals or go organic to battle rose diseases.

    Sorry not to scare you or anything. Growing roses is one of the greatest joy and reward for most of us who love them but at the same time, it is always good to know what you can expect from it. It is really not that hard as it sounds. You will learn with trial and error. (Sorry about my essay..lol.)

  • 10 years ago

    Quadra......


  • 10 years ago

    The garage will be painted a deep charcoal gray so I can get away with almost any color really...I will def go for the trellis' to accommodate the climbers id center under window and let go up and around. I love all the roses that have been mentioned but I cant seem to find any for sale online they're all sold out??

  • 10 years ago

    Nessdizzle,

    I'm new to roses, too! Last summer I got the itch to have my home be covered in roses & the below pictures are where I'm at now!

    Below is William Baffin, a hardy, vigorous climber that would do well in zone 5 & easily cover that wall (mine is against a west facing wall). This pic was taken this spring, during its first flush:

    Next I got Ramblin' Red (planted this spring), which I have on my south-facing garage wall. Hardy to zone 3 & supposedly cane hardy, as well. He really seems to love the heat & all day sun. This pic I just took today - it's the beginning of its second flush of the season:

    The below pic is of the diy trellis I whipped up in a snap. I didn't want to spend the $ on a trellis & couldn't find one I liked anyway. I wanted the blooms to be the focal point, not the trellis, and hopefully when William is more mature, the trellis won't be visible. Also, I took this pic before trellis was secured underground, but you get the idea!


    This is one section of the trellis, I have more pieces like it that I can add on as it grows.

    I fell in love with Eden but don't have a spot for her just yet. The color & form of her blooms are gorg.

    Also, what I've found from lots of online research is some climbers might have a hard time on southern exposure wall with radiant heat, especially against a dark background. Ramblin' Red & Baffin have been just fine so far, though.

    My husband brought home Above & Beyond today, which is an apricot colored climber cane hardy to zone 4 (supposedly). Can't tell you much more about it, though, obviously. ;)

    I've also been checking varieties online lately & most are sold out since it's not really "rose planting season." Most are shipped bare root while they're dormant & are planted in early spring & fall. If you can find a nursery that ships banded pots, you can plant (almost) anytime during summer. :)

    Nic


  • 9 years ago

    wow!!! Helpmefind.com, what a great website!! Thanks for the tip Dublinbay!

  • 9 years ago

    Quadra is what I wish you had planted Nessdizzle. Any pictures?

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    9 years ago

    I know they are invasive in my area, however I like the japanese multiflora rose which doesn't get out of control if kept properly pruned

  • 9 years ago

    Sheila, I ended up going with New Dawn..only because I'm impatient and that's the only one I could find available at that time hahaha..but I did buy a whole bunch of new rose bushes for the rest of my yard which were Chicago Peace, Granada, CL. America , Twilight, Cinco de Mayo, Sheila's perfume, Pretty Lady, and Anna's promise :)

  • 9 years ago

    That will be beautiful, Nessdizzle. I have Awakening, it's sport, and it is lovely.

  • 9 years ago

    I have some really old ND and love it... such a sweet fragrance and generous bloom. I hope you'll post some pics, even if house colour is still the same.

  • 7 years ago

    I wonder how your wall looked like last year with the roses you chose!

  • 7 years ago

    I know! I love to see updates. : )

  • 7 years ago

    Welllll..my update is...I moved the Rose to another location lol...I ended up painting my house shortly after and also thought, where it’s so close to the path to get to the pool..and from all the horror stories I’ve heard about New Dawns thorns..probably best to put elsewhere...so sadly, I have no ‘good’ updates :(

  • 7 years ago

    Well I'm sure you can find another Rose for the spot! How is New Dawn doing where you put her?

  • 7 years ago

    You could try Felix Leclerc from High Country Roses. It is dark pink, a climber and almost thornless, and cane hardy where you live. What’s not to love? I am getting 2 of them this year.

    http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.39822


    http://www.highcountryroses.com/felix-leclerc-pp20315

    Rebecca

  • 7 years ago

    My ND rose is doing ok, it has sent out a few really long stems..I’d say about 5’ -6’ long...but only like 3 of them so far...I put it in a place next to my ugly chain link fence so it could get as big as it likes because the more it hides that fence the better...this will be it’s 2nd full year in the new spot, so I’m sure I’ll see more growth from it this year...as far as that area...idk if I’m going to put any roses there...ideally I’d love to, but we already have a ton of bees near the pool and I think putting more flowers will just bring even more...I love bees don’t get me wrong, but I don’t love them buzzing around my head when I’m trying to relax by the pool...and my yard seems to have all the aggressive types..so not only cute little bumblebees..I have those huge black and white hornets, yellow jackets, and these tiny little black ones that sting like a b***h!! So I more want to discourage them there, than encourage them lol...which stinks because it’s a perfect area for a nice climber :’(

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Here are a few more good climbers that thrive in zone 5 in addition to all the great suggestions above.

    Bajazzo hmf

    Dublin Bay hmf

    John Cabot hmf

    Polka hmf

    Purple Splash hmf

    Quicksilver hmf

    Rosarium Uetersen hmf

    William Baffin hmf

    I grow or have seen all of these growing well in zone 5 and all would look great against charcoal siding. I didn't include any antiques, which would add more choices.

    Help Me Find confused the daylights out of me until I got used to it. For zone info, I'd look at online rose growers for more accuracy. There are many of those.....

    Northland Rosarium is my favorite, also Antique Rose Emporium, Roses Unlimited, Rose Petals Nursery, Rogue Valley Roses, Regan Nursery, Edmunds Roses, to name a few.

  • 7 years ago

    Another thought - plant some monarda (bee balm) as far away from the pool area as you can. It will attract the bees away from where you're relaxing. It's pretty and comes in lots of nice colors. Whack it to the ground every fall and it will come back reliably every spring.