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Help with small kitchen-living-dining room

10 years ago

Hi,

I ask for ideas on how to best distribute the kitchen-living-dining room of my new tiny 3 bedroom flat I've just refurbished.

I attach some screenshots of a sketchup plan I have drawn, and an idea of how I'm planning to fill it. The main thing I don't like is that I only have 2.15m from the sofa to the TV, which seems too close.

Hopefully you guys can give me better ideas.


Some points to consider:

* There will be a family of 4 living on the flat.

* In the kitchen I need cooker, oven, microwave, storage, dishwasher (desirable), fridge

* 4 people able to watch TV sitting in the sofas/armchairs

* (The table I've drawn has only 2 chairs but the idea is to put one with 4)

* Yes, the living room has 5 doors and 2 windows which makes it difficult!


Thanks very much in advance!







Comments (11)

  • 10 years ago

    nobody :(

  • 10 years ago

    I would also post this same thread on the Building a House and Kitchens forum. Folks over there have a lot of experience with floor plans.

    acontia thanked aa62579
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks very much for the replies guys! I'm new to houzz and didn't realize we don't use the same timezone or measurement units! :)
    Here's the plan in feet/inches.

    Thanks!

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    This is like a puzzle! Is it too late to move any walls? Do you need 3 bedrooms?

    I might have moved the top right bedroom over to the left and put the bed in that 6'11' x 2'10" nook, with the wall just beyond that first window. It would be a small child's room, but would give you more space for the living areas. Then moved the whole liv/kit/din area to the right side, giving you more space for those 3 functions.

    If your children are same sex and could share w/bunkbeds then you might not need the 3rd bedroom.

    I didn't see a sink in your kitchen sketches?

    Would your washer and dryer be better as stacked units? Looks like a tight fit to get your laundry done as shown.

    What country are you located in? You might look up the "small house" movement to get some more ideas. My perspective is so different ... my master bath is the size of that main room ... to me it looks like you are trying to fit too much into a less than ideal shaped space. In a small space, this should have all been figured, to the mm, before any refurbishing.

    acontia thanked chispa
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Hi chispa,

    Many thanks for the response! My original idea was removing completely the top right room and merge it with the living-kitchen, but unfortunately the ceilings are vaulted (I saw this after starting the refurbishment). The ceilings rest on the walls so these can't be moved easily (according to a friend who is architect). So I decided to leave it with 3 rooms.

    Regarding the sink it's right next to the fridge. The laundry is just a way of converting that tiny useless wardrobe (which has its own vaulted ceiling...). I made it about 10inch bigger than it was taking space from the room to fit the washing machine, a drier and the boiler, and allows me to put shelves on the top part for storage.

    So, considering that this is the plan and walls can't be moved, and the pipes for the kitchen are already on this wall, I conclude after many hours "playing tetris" with the plan and different furniture, that these would be the best distribution of sofa, tv, counter for storage, table and chairs...

    Unless someone gives me a better idea? ;)

    Thanks

  • 10 years ago

    If you don't need all 3 bedrooms, can you keep the big room the kitchen dining area and turn one of the bedrooms into a den/TV room?

    acontia thanked Annie Deighnaugh
  • 10 years ago

    That is a good idea Annie. You could always add a couple of small chairs and a tv in the area as sort of a keeping room. Or just make the entire space more of a kitchen. You could double the size of cabs and counter on the peninsula.

    acontia thanked amykath
  • 10 years ago

    Yes, that could be a temporal solution for now, but I will need to have 3 bedrooms soon to fit 4 people, so I was trying to optimize the available space in the kitchen-living to put everything necessary. But I guess with this limited space there's no much room for improvements.

    Thanks anyway for your suggestion :)

  • 10 years ago

    You might post this same question on the Small House forum, linked below. They are experts at living large in a small space. There is not as much traffic on that forum, but you might get just the input you need.

    Smaller Homes Forum

    acontia thanked patiencenotmyvirtue
  • 10 years ago

    Ah nice! I didn't know about that forum. Thanks!