msdorkgirl: Great photos of your roses. Thanks for sharing

Straw: great information on the types of fragrances. Well I try but do not succeed in differentiating between fragrances in such detail. I could at best classify them as "those I like the most" and "those I like". So I like the fragrance of Gold Medal, Asma Sharifa, Violette Parfumee, Black Prince, Crimson Glory, Gruss an Tepltiz and many more....

Few pics taken today....

At the Rose garden, they had White Licorice which is a fragrance I delight in and hope that the one I have home will give me the same strong spicy scent.

Grande Dame has a strong smell too, sweet. Elle is surprisingly beautiful smelling too because it is making the other cuttings smell like it. I really wish there was a definitive guide online but I'll reference my books and see if I get their actual scent designation.

I'll have to walk tomorrow to work off the feast I had today...lol...

Jim, what did you have for Thanksgiving feast? It rained all day here ... had turkey & lentil soup for lunch, then spinach & shrimp soup for dinner. Very light meals. Made lots of pumpkin & pecan pancakes which I froze for eternity. My hands didn't break out from rash from yesterday's gardening, so cutting out RAW almond milk, and peanut-butter help. Two of my sisters came down with nut-allergy to specific nuts that they were fine when younger.

I think nuts are meant to consume occasionally, rather than daily. The aflatoxin mold (in most nuts) can accumulate in one's system and lead to an allergic reaction.

HMF experienced rose growers like Cass in DRY & LITTLE RAIN CA fertilizes only once in spring for her clay. Jay-Jay in alkaline clay, Netherlands, zone 5b, recommended little or no fertilizer after late summer. For my clay, I fertilizer only when there's tons of rain, and stop fertilizing after late summer. Heavy clay is fertile and doesn't leach much nutrients as pots or loamy soil.

In HMF, I found this wisdom from a cold-zoner in zone 2b. She's right, the years which roses died over the winter when I had dry-pre-winter condition.

Reply of 8 posted 27 OCT 06 byShelley H

Suzanne, I too am listed under zone 2b. A rose garden is a wonderful idea. I have over 100 bushes and this number will grow again next spring.My advice to you is simple. Grow own root, plant deep(4-6" below formation of stems), water well weekly, and fertilize monthly. And never let them go to sleep in the winter with dry roots.A link to see my roses on HMF:http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?i=G3101

I checked on HMF to see if I winterize my roses properly, here are some tips from Wendy Christy: http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/ezine.php?publicationID=919&js=0

Wait until the first 'killing frost' to cover your roses.

http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/ezine.php?publicationID=919&js=0

wow..so many beautiful roses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (msdorkgirl, Samuel) Lokelani is amazing, but so are all the others.... special rocks are needed in this day and age...the photo of the frozen pond is stunning, and Quietness (I checked on Google) is so beautiful...and how strong!

great advice on preparing them for winter will save that...and what a lovely snow queen - burning bush is on your photo Strawberry Hilll..also stunning photo of the frozen lake Samuel..beautiful photographs...

I really enjoyed that poem Jim, made me smile...

I prepared a chicken stew with bay leaves and garlic and pretended I'm also having Thanksgiving..with all of you! :-)

yesterday one of my cats brought me this beautiful little snake, I caught it and then released it in the bush a few miles away. I have no idea what snake this is...nothing on Google looking similar...

Curry tree in cage to protect from naughty cats....it is next to the catnip plant also in a cage...

As I was scratching around I smelled something divine... and as my nose moved closer I realized it's this rose... confirmed when I plonked my face right into the masses of blooms: Perfumed Breeze (growing next to Andrea Stelzer - no fragrance at all for this 7 foot beauty unfortunately)

She was barely 30 cm tall in spring (August-September) before I started with the gypsum and Sulfate of Potash, and ridden with black spot.

and this is Graham Thomas, now starting to bloom at the top as well....

we had really great rains yesterday and apparently it's snowing - again - in the Lesotho mountains. so it feels like winter, but next week the temp will rise to 100,4 F (38 C). the trellis is going to be extended...for Rhapsody in Blue (on the left) and more space as well for GT.

I love the perfume fragrant roses, to my nose the best are: Rose Celeste, Oklahoma, Hey Jude, Belle Epoque and Addictive Lure, but still waiting for Evelyn to bloom, I'm sure that'll be a feast of fragrances..Unfortunately most of your stunning and fragrant roses aren't available over here...what a pity that is....

jessjennings0: Your Perfumed Breeze looks absolutely stunning. So many fragrant blooms at one time..... very fascinating. Graham Thomas looks great too.

regards

Jess: Thank you for great pics. from your South Africa: I love that snake, the curry tree, best cluster ever of Perfume Breeze (fantastic photo !!), and very healthy Graham Thomas. My daughter loves your pics., esp. of the snake. Thank you for the report of best roses for sniffing: Oklahoma, Hey Jude, Belle Epoque (love its color!!), and Addictive Lure.

My roses in zone 5a are so tiny compared to your warm-climate roses. For roses to survive our winter, it's a miracle !!

Sam & Jim: I found the link to the late rosarian Karl Bapst's garden in HMF, and the 99 plants survived after his death:

http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=3.4447&tab=2

Carol: How are your family doing? My 13-year old daughter loves the thermos (Fuel brand from Target) which I bought to keep her lunch hot. She goes for 5 hours from 7 am to 12 noon without food, and prefers a hot lunch over a cold sandwich. I buy sweet brown rice (sticky rice) and pack that with boiled beans. Sweet rice is sold at Oriental store. She likes that with sesame on top. Rice & beans don't get spoiled. We ordered that from Amazon, just to get whole-grain brown sticky rice ... can't find that in local stores:

http://www.amazon.com/Bobs-Red-Mill-Sweet-27-Ounce/dp/B004VLVLSO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1448648941&sr=8-1&keywords=sweet+brown+rice

Msgirl: Thank you for the report of White Licorice, Grand Dame, and Elle as your favorite scents from Hawaii. A friend gave me a bloom of Veteran's Honor, which kept over a week in the vase, and I sniffed that many times a day: great cherry & raspberry scent. Khalid is lucky to get that for only $5 .. I would pay over $20 for it from Roses Unlimited, just for its fantastic scent, it's like eating a cherry pie with zero calories.

Khalid: I didn't see your pictures in this thread until now, must be the time-zone-change between Pakistan and U.S.A. Thank you for the pics. of your healthy roses (I love your Scentimental). It's good to know your fragrant ones: " Gold Medal, Sharifa Asma, Violette Parfumee, Black Prince, Crimson Glory, Gruss an Teplitz". I have Crimson Glory and Gruss, but I prefer Gruss' scent ... more long-lasting.

First off all great pics posted by MSgirl, Khalid Waleed, & Jess! Loved looking at those pics!

Cool snake Jess! I'm also wondering what kind it might be...

Straw, cool link to Karls roses!

Straw, we had Turkey, mashed potatoes & gravy, baked beans, stuffing,corn, sweet potatoes,deviled eggs & pumpkin pie...I think that's it...lol

That sounds yummy, Jim. The previous link on winterizing state to prune in spring, except for wet snow or strong wind areas (like my Chicagoland). For zone 5a East coast, here's a great reference from HMF:

Azalea House Flowering Shrub Farm

In Yonder Garden 'Moon Shadow' puts on a great show every year. The graft is planted at least 2 inches underground in this zone 5 garden in the historic Hudson Valley of central New York State. Temperatures regularly drop to 15 below zero. We stop pruning or even disbudding by mid August and dont prune or fertilize again untill May. This rose usually has to be pruned back to eight inches or so every spring, then its fertilized with a granular fertilizer and then every two weeks with a water soluble one." Azalea House, zone 5a, New York.

For fertilizing & pruning in a warm climate .. A person from Florida gave this comment in HMF. Florida has sandy soil & very hot temp & frequent humid rain: Embee4488 "I have had Belinda's Dream since 2004. I got it from Roses Unlimited, and cannot say enough good things about it. Once when I had way too much time on my hands, I decided to count the blooms, and finally stopped at 315 ! Mine gets a severe pruning on Valentine's Day (about down to 24"), and by the first of April reaches at least 5'. It ends up being around 6.5' x 6.5', and is never without an abundance of blooms. I am also in Florida, and our battle is with humidity and the resultant Black Spot. " Embee4488 from Florida, in HMF.

Hi everyone, Happy Thanksgiving to you Americans! We had ours in Oct.

I loved the turkey poem!!! :)

What do you guys do with the soil/leaf covering in the spring?

My favorite smell is from Paradise Found. I can't describe the fragrance. It is totally unique.

Here is another picture.

An interesting smell which I like a lot is Acapella. It smells like banana foam candies. I've never smelled another rose that smells like bananas. The underside of the petals is white.

Straw - my family is doing well. My younger child who has OCD is on Prozac to combat it. The dosage has to be quite high to counter act OCD. She's in the midst ofo increasing her dosage. The amount of trauma that girl has endured from her OCD is terrible. Thankfully she's getting better. I haven't got back to my exercising yet, because I can't shake the end of this cold. I go for a walk, but my breathing is labored and I get tired out after 15 min. I don't think it's good to walk too long in the cold when my lungs aren't functioning well.

Carol

I'll just wash away the heap of compost I apply and spread it around the rose bush...

Nice rose Carol!

But eventually won't you be raising the level of soil and further burying your rose so it gets lower and lower in the soil??? I don't overwinter my roses outside, so this question has always made me wonder.

Thanks, Jim, I love those two roses - especially for their unique smells.

Carol

Compost disappears after awhile like wood mulch does...

My neighbor has not added anything around her roses for 7 years now and the base of her roses are actually sticking way up above ground level... Years of hard rains etc. eroded her soil away...

Christmas lights are on:

Carol: Thank you for fantastic pics. of your 2 roses: Paradise Found and Acapella. I like those dark-pink colors. I hope you feel better & get active again. Dr. Weil is Harvard-trained M.D. who combine both holistic and modern medicine, he recommends fish-oil for OCD, but I think flax oil is better. Fish oil is very stinky.

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART02719/Obsessive-Compulsive-Disorder.html

My Mom made curry a few times a year when I grew up, and I always love curry .. my brain is euphoric after eating curry, it's the same euphoric feeling after drinking green tea, and better, it's like my brain "sings" after curry, it feels so good & relaxed, like runner's high. I like curry for the psychological "high" first, then taste second. Curry is high in curcumin. See the science abstract below on rats:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3354439/

"A significant improvement from the obsessive-compulsive symptoms induced by quinpirole was observed in curcumin treated rats; curcumin showed a protective effect on memory task. An increase in serotonin levels and a decrease in the dopamine levels were observed in curcumin treated rats. Conclusion:

Curcumin treatment had shown a protective effect in OCD with considerable influence on brain monoamine levels."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3354439/

Curry also has cayenne, one of the ingredients that earthclinic listed to help OCD, besides 5-HTP and Chamomile:

http://www.earthclinic.com/cures/obsessive_compulsive_disorder.html

Researchers with the Department of Pharmacology of Government Medical College in Bhavnagar, Gujarat, India performed a study comparing the effects of turmeric (curcumin) and Prozac (fluoxetine). The randomized and controlled clinical study determined turmeric was as effective as Prozac in treating major depressive disorder. Turmeric treatment was also absent of dangerous side effects often found in Prozac use.

The objectives of the trial was to compare the efficacy and safety of curcumin with fluoxetine (Prozac) in patients with major depressive disorder (MDD). The study observed 60 patients diagnosed with MDD.

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/07/31/study-finds-turmeric-is-effective-as-prozac-for-treating-depression/

*** From Straw: it's hard to find a good-curry blend which isn't too hot for kids. The curry we like can be ordered from The Spice House (established in 1957). I tried at least 5 different curries sold at stores, including Oriental stores, and they are either too hot, or just doesn't taste right.

http://www.thespicehouse.com/spices-by-category/curry-powder

Jim: I love those lights .. you did a good job hanging them up. We have lots of bushes in front, but we don't hang Christmas lights .. I'm out in the garden so often, that I might trip on them.

Due to our Thanksgiving break, our favorite TV shows are off ... We like Once Upon a Time. So we watched Rick Steves Travel in Europe yesterday, saw these massive dolomitic mountains in Italy .. the color is grayish beige.

Today we watched "Snake City" of a guy named Simon catching dangerous snakes in South Africa. Simon has tattoos all the way up his neck, he caught a 2.6 meter, or 8.5 feet black mamba snake in a closet. Black Mamba can kill a person in 15 min. I like South Africa's landscape: reddish clay hills, so pretty. Simon caught a bright green baby snake.

JESS: Do you have reddish & acidic clay? Are there lots of snakes in your garden? The only type of snake we have is the grayish water snake.

Straw - the Prozac is for her OCD which is quite terrible. I don't think curry would help that - but what do I know. :) She has taken to eating Indian cuisine, and I've helped by making a lot of dishes with curry.

Jim, love your lights!! Christmas lights make me so happy! You put your lights up quite high. Be careful.

Jim - that makes sense then about adding compost/leaves, etc. I didn't quite understand before.

Thanks for the nice comments about my roses. :)

We went to a Christmas Craft show tonight, and we went through it twice as fast, because I could go from side to side across the small aisle. Before it was too difficult for my balance so I had to go up one aisle, then down the other side. Last time I was there I had a cane. Now, no cane. My hubby is so happy for me. :)

Carol

Khalid, I only saw your post now and your roses are so lovely, also Carol...the roses you have and the ones you mention aren't found here and I'm pining for them! what lovely photo's...sigh....Acapella is just so stunning...sigh sigh sigh...also Paradise Found...Elle...Versigny...

such joyful Xmas lights Jim! stunning! great info on mulching from you and Strawberry Hill...

and amazing info on curry, I will have to eat more of that myself!

I have dark acidic clay in some areas where there was farming done previously, but in the areas where only animals roamed the soil is like virgin loam...more reddish but so alive and fluffy, as you describe good soil Strawberry Hill..that is where I planted my baby trees...after extending my fence...apparently this whole area was a yellow-wood forest long ago but those trees were all chopped down for furniture and building...how sad...

Fortunately Black Mamba only lives up north because that's a mean one and the only snake that can sail with it's neck lifted up...at quite a speed...called black because the inside of it's mouth is black and it grows enormously large, yes, lethal...but aren't they beautiful creatures? like an excellent design, a work of art...

where I stayed in Midrand Johannesburg there were also a lot of Rinkhals (ring-necklace-) snakes and they always wanted to come inside the house..many were killed...they also grow huge and spit very far and accurately..I once nearly sat on one in my garden...and another time nearly stepped on one which was laying below my doorstep-slate-rock...fortunately my cats warned me...it was at least 10 cm (3,93701 inches) in diameter and 3 meters (9.84252) long.. also had a lot of night vipers...

and everywhere here you'll find Puff Adders - they enjoy laying in your path and waiting for you to step on them. some call them 'lazy' snakes because of that. other snakes flee when they hear you coming...plus, they always come back when you remove them, they once did an experiment with a few of them and, after marking them, took them at least 100 km's away - they were back to that spot in less than a month. I killed two of them in my garden so far...hopefully there won't be more..where they bite the wound becomes gangrenous en never heals..very aggressive...(the cats always tells me when there's a snake)

but where I stay now the most dangerous of them all are the Cape Yellow Cobra. Lethal and extremely aggressive and grows enormous, kills many dogs. Fortunately I haven't seen one yet but all my neighbors have had near death experiences with this character...

and then there are tree snakes, but although they are lethal and always try and come into your house, they aren't aggressive, unless cornered...otherwise they prefer to flee.

and there are others that I can't even identify, like the one I posted earlier.

we also have massive Nile monitors here, and their tale can break a horses' legs...I've seen one at least 1.5 meters long from head to tail..and two babies were staying underneath my studio, but they're gone now. The cats avoided them and they were only about 25 cm's (9.84252 inches) long. They have tunnels going everywhere here...right through town...

and then we also have the hamerkop (hammer head)- birds that like to eat snakes, but they've been very scarce lately. due to superstition about them they are killed by locals unfortunately

I'll be removing these photo's in 24 hours due to them being taken from Google.

Khalid, you must also have lots of snakes in Pakistan? Do you have the King Cobra there? that is a real beauty....

Thanks for posting those pics Jess! Some dangerous snakes you have in Africa!

Alittle about my area:

Twenty-one snake species inhabit Pennsylvania, most of them found in the central region of the state. Most are harmless, although some venomous snakes are around. With many species in decline, their protection falls under Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission regulations. It's illegal to kill or remove any snakes considered endangered, so check a snake's status with the commission before removing unwelcome slithering visitors.

Venomous Snakes

Two of the state's three venomous snakes are found in the region. Found primarily in forests, the large timber rattlesnake comes in two distinct color patterns in central Pennsylvania -- the yellow and black phases. The body is either yellowish or dark, with black chevron markings. The most common venomous snake in the state is the northern copperhead, generally found in woods and open fields. This medium-size, thick-bodied snake sports a greyish-brown background color with reddish-brown bands.

Terrestrial Snakes

The large, thin, black northern racer inhabits meadows and woodlands. The northern racer is easily confused with the eastern rat snake, who is thicker and heavier. The eastern garter snake, found virtually everywhere, is greenish to dark brown, with yellow stripes and small red or black dots between the striping. The eastern milk snake, with a reddish body and black-bordered light blotches, is also found in various habitats. The dark eastern hog-nose snake can be identified by his namesake hoglike snout. The northern redbelly, found in woods, fields and bogs, is usually brown with a bright red belly.

Water Snakes

The medium-size queen snake inhabits streams, ponds and rivers. This olive-brown species has a yellow stripe on the side of the body and four brown stripes on his yellow belly. The mid-size northern water snake can live in almost any freshwater area, including bogs and swamps. This brown snake has yellowish bands around the body. The eastern and northern ribbon snakes both have light stripes on reddish bodies.

Small Snakes

Some Pennsylvania snakes mature at approximately a foot in length. These include the earthworm snake, so named because of his resemblance to an earthworm. The rare mountain earth snake, found in pine or woodland forests, is brown with small black dots. The dark northern ringneck snake is easily identified by the yellow-orange ring around the neck. The northern brown snake has parallel rows of dark dots along a light-colored dorsal stripe.

Went for a 1 hour walk today... Ate to much on Thanksgiving & now eating leftovers from Thursdays meal... :-0

This is a rough time of year for me as everyone bakes goodies and my willpower sort of gets weak....And the weather gets colder so my motivation sort of slows down too...

wow Jim you have more snakes over there than we have here! The Timber rattlesnake is awesome...we also have earthworm snakes here but my cats kill them, that makes me really sad... beautiful little snake - the rare mountain earth snake...

we also have a water snake that is very venomous and dangerous, but I don't know anyone who has ever seen one...and it's not in this area - it prefers coastal (salt) water...but I see in Google that it's also over there - the yellow bellied sea snake.

Although snakes are beautiful they are so scary...

Snakes always remind me of that story - the Little Prince... it's a story for adults really... although it looks like a children's book...

I have no leftovers, lucky me :-) hope you enjoyed your walk! that's something I keep promising myself to do...and don't....

Everyone has such beautiful roses... I have rose envy.

I love Japanese curry and Christmas lights.

Snakes would scare me so I am glad they are rare here.

At least you are doing some activity Jim, I on the other hand, am enjoying non-activity at the expense of everything else.

Carol, I'm so happy for you that you don't need your cane anymore... what a joy and blessing...to be healing... :-)

You are all in my thoughts and prayers, everyday. I am so grateful to be having these interesting conversations with all of you.

I also hope little Cameron is better and better everyday...

I have never tasted Japanese curry! I must look that up... do you have a good recipe that you would share with us MsDorkgirl?

we mostly have Malaysian dishes curry over here...

and yes, rose envy - good description of how I feel about all the beautiful roses I see and can't have... :-)

jessjennings0: Wow.... that's quite a few snakes. We have lot of snakes here including many kind of Cobras (including King Kobra), Rattlers and even huge size Pythons which can easily swallow a goat. I once saw a Python that was killed by local villagers in the mountains and that beast still had a fully grown goat in his stomach. To his bad luck, villager just reached him when he had just swallowed a goat and was trying to wind itself against a big pine tree (pythons do that in order to crush the bones of its pray inside the stomach).

Carol glad your moving around better now & not using a cane!

Cameron is still improving... Little by little she is started to walk again too...

Haha I do not cook. I almost messed up the pre-seasoned prime rib... And since my family likes things well done of course I end up cooking it med rare. We ended up getting it burnt by putting it on the skillet.

Here's the Tahitian Sunset in bloom ... All the rest are overbloomed on the bush.

There are some good deals on pots and solar lights at Lowe's so just spent my money on that in hopes that it will spur me to repot some. Have a great day everyone!

Thank you, Msgirl, for that pic. of Tahitian Sunset, wow !!

Jess and Jim: I love the snakes pics. .. will show that to my kid. Msgirl, there's a recipe for ribs posted previously here (I'll dig up soon). The best curry I ever had was made by a Pakistan friend .. this gal was beautiful like a model. Her curry was from a refrigerated jar. I'm going to the Spice House today to get Garam marsala, Tandoori (very fragrant), Salmon seasoning, Florida seasoned pepper, Pullman porkchop rub, Thai's red curry powder, and mild curry powder.

Here's from WebMD "July 16, 2007 -- A chemical in the curry spice turmeric might inspire new Alzheimer's disease treatments, a new study shows.

In preliminary lab tests, the chemical helped rid the blood of a key ingredient in Alzheimer's brain plaque.

One day, it might be possible to give Alzheimer's patients blood infusions of the curry chemical to help their immune system delete that brain plaque ingredient, note the researchers. They included Milan Fiala, MD, who works at the medical school of the University of California at Los Angeles and at the Greater Los Angeles Veterans Affairs Medical Center."

It's hard to duplicate the "high" exhilaration feeling after eating curry .. that's even better than the "exercise high" I got when I did laps at YMCA swimming pool as a teenager. I had a few Indian classmates in college which amazed me as to how smart they are. There's this Physic class which I labored to get an "A", while some Indian guys took the tests in 1/4 hour time-frame .. and were the top of that class. Same with computer science, the Indian guy next to me finished his project ahead of everyone else. To achieve the "brain-high", I always double-the curry, plus lots of ginger.

I love snakes!! Of course, I never see any here, so I don't have to worry about them. I think it would be horrible to have dangerous snakes in one's house/yard. Here we have the harmless garter snake and the dangerous rattlesnake. But no one ever sees a rattlesnake.

Carol

Nice photo of your Tahitian Sunset rose in bloom MSgirl!

A garter snake scared my wife to death this summer...lol

We took walks up the mountain years ago but since ticks got bad I have not done that for a long time. But we encountered Rattlesnakes once in awhile walking the paths through the woods...

Yes, ticks scare me...they can change your life so easily.

I really like Black Mambas and Emerald Tree Boas. But, of course, I don't have to deal with their danger.

Carol

Ms Girl

I cooked the prime rib roast at a restaurant. In the oven 200° @ 2:00 o'clock. Should be good to slice all night after 5 or 6 o'clock. Use your meat thermometer. When the internal temperature reaches 120°, pull it out of the oven and cover with foil.

I use the steamer pan to cook up slice well done fast if needed.

Sam: Fantastic tips for cooking prime ribs ... I'm going to save that in my file.

I bought a 2nd turkey from Sam's club since it's only $8 for a 12 lb. turkey. The recipe of cooking at 325 F or 163 C until internal thermometer register 160 F, or 70 C. is best for a moist turkey. I tried another recipe of roasting at 450 for 20 min, then lower the heat to 350 ... that was too dry !! I like the below recipe best for a moist turkey:

http://allrecipes.com/recipe/230121/very-moist-and-flavorful-roast-turkey/

I went to the Spice House today to get spices for Christmas gifts. The place was jammed pack. I sniffed 4 different types of curry, they all smelled great. The Spice House expand their varieties of curry. Curry goes well with turkey.

http://www.thespicehouse.com/spices-by-category/curry-powder

Also returned the rancid almond bag to Sam's club, which I suspect is the culprit of my body-rash & my kid's face breaking out. My hunch was confirmed when Sam's club clerk told me many people also returned their almonds ... it's a bad batch of almonds. I was so happy to hear that, which means it's NOT the fish oil, nor the peanut-butter (which I love). Aflatoxin mold can contaminated any stale nuts, be it peanuts or almonds.

When I checked on Alfatoxin, surprisingly a study found that Organic peanut butter are more contaminated, due to longer-time storage. The popular brand of peanut-butter have a faster turn-over rate, more people buying them, so the nuts are fresher. More molds in nuts with a longer-shelf-storage. Here's an excerpt from below link:

" A few years ago, Consumers Union looked into the question of aflatoxins in peanut butter and found that the amounts detectable varied from brand to brand. The lowest amounts were found in the big supermarket brands such as Peter Pan, Jif and Skippy. The highest levels were found in peanut butter ground fresh in health food stores."

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA115491

Sam did you cook it at 200C or F??

200°F

Yum on Sams ribs!

I'll have to invest in an oven...soon.....it sounds delicious...all your recipes....

beautiful Tahitan Sunset rose....!!!!!!

and yes I totally dislike ticks, too many over here...

wow Khalid! have you ever seen a King Cobra in real life? that python sounds terrible...I just don't like pythons....

Glad to hear that it was the rancid almonds Strawberry Hill... why do they still try and sell that to customers I wonder - it happens here all the time, and I'm too far from town to return these old products...so wrong...good news about the peanut butter, the ones at the health shops are much more expensive...that'll save me a lot of money...

Wow.... this thread is really interesting. Snakes, ribs, roses, peanut butter and bad almonds. Can I post my hunting and fishing pics here.....

Straw: BTW, it was great to listen to the word Garam Masala from an American. It's an Urdu word (Pakistani language) and literally means "Hot Spice". It's an essential part of our curry but I find it really hot so less is better. It's actually a mix of cloves, black pepper, cinnamon, cumin seeds and large cardamom. The aroma and flavour of Garam Masala is an addiction however it's excess is not good. My wife loves to put it in curry along with lot of red pepper; it's very tasty and aromatic but sometimes too hard to digest.

Me and my sons like the baked and BBQ stuff more. Few pics....

This is medium hot stuff and if you are already using garam masala then you would love it.

Baked beef tenderloin

Beef and vegetables marinated in olive oil, garlic paste, lemon juice, cumin seed powder and red chilies. A layer of marinated vegetables, then beef pieces and again a topping of marinated vegetables. Bake for 50 mins at 180*C. You can replace olive oil with yogurt in the marination paste and even add a bit of olive oil to the yogurt. Olive oil will keep the beef tender.

Baked shrimps and veges cooked with similar recipe. Vinegar used instead of yogurt.

Baked hot spicy beef with onions.

In my home my wife does all curries, rice and bread, me and my sons do all baked stuff, BBQ and steam roasts...

200F - isn't that too cool to kill bacteria??

Carol

I double-check on cooking Prime-rib-roast, and Sam's method of using the steamer pan to heat each portion at high-temp. before serving MAKES MORE SENSE than high-heat before cooking, because Sam's method ensure a hot & cooked portion right before serving. Here's an excerpt from below link:

http://culinaryarts.about.com/od/beefporkothermeats/r/Prime-Rib-Roast-3.htm

" Instead, we slowly roast it until it's medium rare, let it rest, and THEN we brown it at very high temperature right before serving it.

The night before you're going to do the cooking, unwrap the prime rib and let the meat sit on a sheet pan with a rack, uncovered, in the refrigerator. The reason we do this is so that the surface is drier, making it easier to get a beautiful brown crust when you sear it at the end.

1. Three hours before you're going to roast it, take the prime rib out of the fridge and let it sit at room temperature.
2. Finally, 30 minutes before you start roasting, pre-heat your oven to 200°F
3. Roast until the meat's internal temperature reaches 128°F, which will be another two and a half to five hours, depending on the size of your roast.
4. Take meat out to rest while crank up the oven. Prep the sauce.
5. By which time, your oven will have fully reached 500°. Now, put the meat back in the oven and let it roast on super-high for 6 to 10 minutes & serve right away.

http://culinaryarts.about.com/od/beefporkothermeats/r/Prime-Rib-Roast-3.htm

I started a new thread "11/29/15: Rose rootstock for pots, tips for roses & our health".

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/3533129/m=23/11-29-15-rootstocks-for-pots-tips-for-roses-and-our-health-and-recipes

Does it roast covered or uncovered for #3 and #5?

Carol

Khalid: I'm very happy that you join us. Love your sense of humor: yes, I would love to see hunting & fishing pictures. My husband loves fishing & my brothers are into hunting. Thank you for pics. of those fantastic dishes your wife made .. I like the colors & presentation & methods.

Carol: That's the question I always ask with any recipe. There's a thread that focus on that question, see below link .. everyone say don't cover, the fat-portion of beef-roast (face-up) will keep it moist. Pork-ribs is different: pork-ribs need to be covered with aluminum foil, since it's a tougher meat.

http://community.cookinglight.com/showthread.php?113505-Prime-Rib-To-Cover-or-Not-to-Cover

No, don't cover the meat and put it on a rack.

Straw started a new thread Khalid Waleed... I also would like to see your hunting & fishing pics! :-)

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/3533129/m=23/11-29-15-rootstocks-for-pots-tips-for-roses-and-our-health-and-recipes

Ditto! please post your hunting and fishing photo's Khalid. your food made me so hungry just to see that! looks utterly delicious!, off to the new thread now :-)

Thanks Straw!

Carol

Thanks everyone for liking the baked food stuff.

Straw wrote: "Thank you for pics. of those fantastic dishes your wife made .. "

You are welcome Straw but those dishes were made by my sons actually. My wife specializes in curries, various types of rice and desert.

Tomorrow we will be making BBQ brown partridges which me and my son shot on Sunday. They were marinated and freezed yesterday.

Wow! that sounds good. My sister made quail one time, very delicious meat. I'm checking Pinterest for Pakistan recipes, which are so healthy. My Pakistan friend made cabbage saute with onion & tomato & a bit of vinegar, and it was better than German red cabbage. Thanks for those pics, which inspired me to try healthy ways to put meat & veggies together.

A correction in the recipe of baked meat given above. Just confirmed it from my son who did this one. The temp for baked beef is 180*C and not 300*F. Cooking time for shrimps is 35 mins.

Sorry for the confusion

I re-post your recipes here to etch in my memory. THANK YOU, I appreciate them.

" Beef and vegetables marinated in olive oil, garlic paste, lemon juice, cumin seed powder and red chilies. A layer of marinated vegetables, then beef pieces and again a topping of marinated vegetables. Bake for 50 mins at 180*C or 356 F. Yogurt can be used. I see sliced tomatoes, onions, broccoli.

Baked shrimps and veges cooked at 356 F for 35 min. Vinegar used instead of yogurt. I see cauliflower, celery, and carrot.

That's the same veggies combo we use in oriental stir-fry: We use garlic, onion, tomato, broccoli with beef. And we use cauliflower, celery, carrot & lime for shrimp. Except Oriental stir-fry is a pain to stir, and oven-roast is much easier. My kid doesn't like the crunchy veggies in stir-fry, so oven-roast would make veggies more tender.

Straw, you are spot on in identifying the veges. We generally do add potatoes also to the mix as they bake very well. Yogurt goes well with beef. It ensures better marination of the spices and almost dries up during baking but in the process, keeps the beef tender and gives it a nice flavour. However, few people may not like it with the veges though. Olive oil also assists in saving the meat and veges from drying / burning and give a very nice flavour to veges. Shirmp marination in our recipes usually doesn't contain yogurt though there is no harm in using. However, mostly lemon juice or vinegar go well with shrimps.

We usually prefer a perforated baking dish which allows excess water to drain down. But then one has to keep another tray at the lower level inside the oven as water will keep dripping down from the perforated tray and make the oven dirty.

Straw started a new thread Msdorkgirl...

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/3533129/m=23/11-29-15-rootstocks-for-pots-tips-for-roses-and-our-health-and-recipes