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My tomato seedling leaves are curling and wilting! Please help!

10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

I am a student living in a dorm, in Philadelphia, USA. Now is winter time, and I am growing a few tomato seedlings in pots. Recently my seedlings a getting unhealthy, their leaves are curling, withering, and I am very concerned. Here are some pictures:

This is the first seedling

Also the first seedling at a different angle. You can see in the background there is another unknown plant (which shoots out by itself from the soil) whose leaves are also curling.

This is the second tomato seedling. Notice its leaves on the right side are withering

This is the unknown plant mentioned above, potted in the same pot as the first tomato seedling

Other facts:

Lighting:

My dorm has no sunlight... Thus I am using fluorescent light as seen in the below picture. Is the lighting not enough?

Temperature:

The temperature of my room is about 75F or 24C.

Watering:

I am watering everyday and the soil is kept moist everyday. I use water from the tap. Are there harmful chemicals in tap water? Are the seedlings overwatered?

Soil:

This is a long story. Initially I just took garden soil in the garden outside my dorm, and I grow my seedlings (3 of them) all in a single container which I made out of a orange juice bottle (about 4 inches in diameter, with holes drilled at the bottom) and the seedlings grew well for about a month. There was even some unknown plant (as shown in the picture above) shooting out of the soil. Then one day one of my tomato seedlings has its leaf wilted overnight. I thought it might be soil problem or overcrowding problem so I transferred all my seedlings to pots as shown in the picture above, one seedling in each pot. I also bought new potting soil and thrown away all the old garden soil. But the problem persists...

Roots:

When I do the transfer of the seedlings from the original small container to pots, which is about a month after germination, I noticed that their roots are pretty short, only about an inch long. This is the first time I grow tomato and I do not know if this is normal.

Please help to save these poor little lives! Any help is much appreciated!

Comments (8)

  • 10 years ago

    I agree that the seedlings were overwatered.

    Why not try again, but buy a packet of potting mix (not soil). Punch some holes in the bottom of the OJ container (or you could use individual yoghurt containers).

    You could also prop the plants up so that they are about a foot away from the light, or find a sunny window.

    Linda

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  • 10 years ago

    Second :

    --- wrong soil ( Take the out and put in Soil less) potting mix.

    -- Not enough light ( Your lights are too far away ...)

    --- Wrong light ( Use CFL and keep within 2-3" from seedlings , min. 12 , max 18 hours/24 hr. )

    --- Probably over watered.

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  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I suggest starting them in seed trays. Use a well draining mix, I create a mix of mostly compost. But depending on the quality and type of the compost you use it may smell while in door, so you can find a good potting mix instead. I always make sure it have good drainage, but seed trays can get dry fast too depending on your grow mix. I water the seedlings with diluted molasses which give them quick
    minerals while small, this is much more cost effective than buying
    fertilizers. I keep the lights closer to the soil, but depending on the intensity you don't want the mix to heat up too much. I think tomato grows well when the soil is at least near mid-70*F.

    Don't grow in containers that have standing water and can't drain. Be careful growing in peat-based mix, they can be very water retentive and rot the roots. Also peat by themselves do not have nutrients, so you would have to add additional through liquid fertilizers, which is why I prefer compost + molasses.

    After 2-3 weeks (after germination), I transplant the seedlings from the seed trays into those plastic red cups. I have 2-3 holes under the cup for it to drain. After about 4 weeks I'm ready to transplant the tomatoes (some people wait to 6, it depends on the growth rate and climate situation).

    Or you can grow directly from the plastic cups and skip the seed trays, they're pretty affordable. Don't try to save unhealthy seedlings since they will not grow well and won't be productive. It's better to start over.

    There are stuff in tap water, like Chlorine to help disinfection, but they are not in strong enough concentration to harm your plants or prevent germination. I do prefer to use filtered or rain water when I can.

    bebeby thanked maxjohnson
  • 10 years ago

    If you're in a dorm, tomatoes, at least normal ones may not be the plants for you. Tomatoes get huge and need tons of light. You don't have the space or windows. Why not spring for a dwarf tomato or something better suited to your situation, like spinach or lettuce? They're good beginner plants, don't take up tons of space and you'll get to eat them by the end of your term.

    bebeby thanked Pumpkin (zone 10A)
  • 10 years ago

    Dear all, thank you very much for replying. Now I know where the issue is. I have lowered the light and stopped watering for now, and will only water when the soil become dry enough. Hopefully this will solve the lighting and watering problem. As for the soil, I have asked stores around and there is no store nearby that sells potting mix. Is it too late to change into potting mix? If not too late, can someone recommend some potting mix which I can buy online, preferably from Amazon where I always buy things?


    Some people asked why I choose to plant tomato in my dorm. Actually it was because of this: one day I was eating tomato in a bowl, and afterwards I left the bowl filled with water, intending to wash it later. But due to laziness I did not wash the bowl for a few days and there were 3 tomato seeds inside the bowl, which started to germinate. I could not bear to throw them away since they are now living things. I also found it amazing because I microwaved the original tomato that contained these seeds for 2 minutes in my microwave oven before I ate it. Thus I decided to grow them. I know the difficulties of growing them in my dorm but I decide to grow them anyways and move one step at a time and see what happens.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Likely if you eat tomatoes from the store they are production tomatoes. 1. They won't have the taste like a good gardener hybrid or heirloom tomato (in other word they tastes like cardboard). 2. They are hybrid, when you replant a seed from a hybrid plant, it won't be exactly like the original plant, it will have different characteristic and may not taste as good or have desired traits. I would rather order some seeds online and grow some dwarf tomato instead.

    If you intend to grow indoor you will need some good lighting and space. Something like this is minimum I would recommend for full size tomato indoor: https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/8256/FC105-S50OD.htm. So as you can see, tomato need lots of light which isn't not going to work in a single room dorm. Not only that, they need lots of soil, at least a 5 gallon container. So it's better off growing something like lettuce or basil indoor, or look for a dwarf or microdwarf tomato variety. Some variety to consider are: Red Robin, Tiny Tim, Silvery Fire Tree.

    For indoor potting soil, make sure you ask question and find the right potting soil that does not smell and perhaps pasteurized for indoor use, otherwise it will be an unpleasant experience. I don't buy potting soil, but I know "FoxFarm's Potting Soil" have good reputation so you may want to check them out, but I don't know how it'll smell.

    In my bedrooom I have an "AeroGarden Extra LED" that let me grow vegetable hydroponically, and it's LED light is bright enough to provide light for some extra plants in smaller container next to it. It is full spectrum and would be adequate for small dwarf tomatoes. It have a timer and shuts off after 12-16 hours. It is also very easy to make your own affordable indoor hydroponic setup. However, considering you live in a dorm, I don't know if you may have issues with campus authority who will be concerned with cannabis growing which is quite popular with hydroponic growing (not that I'm trying to give an idea).

    bebeby thanked maxjohnson
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    The pots are way too big too. They will be chronically overwatered in such big pots. I also suggest you research "potting up". I chronicled a good portion of my seed starting this year... http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2993293/tomatoes-and-eggplants-growing-fast

    They were started in seed starting trays, in Nature's Promise seed starting mix (organic Miracle Gro), which was great. That light is not going to work either... I strongly suggest at least a cheap grow light.

    Also it is way too early to start seeds in Philly! Around April 1st was my plan. In Philly mid March maybe.

    bebeby thanked Peter (6b SE NY)
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