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New Zealand lemonade to US897. Time to transplant

10 years ago

My tree has put out 4 leaves from the grafted bud. It appears it has budded over to wait to build strength before growing again. While the graft looks very frail it has healthy looking trunk and new leaves. Should I wait awhile before up potting it to a bottomless 1 gallon plastic paint can.

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New Zealand lemonade to US897 in 32 OZ cup.

1 gallon bottomless tin sits on top of 5 gallon bucket with beets. I have had the best citrus growth using the bottomless pot.


Comments (69)

  • 9 years ago

    Both my trees are in bad shape after an insect infestation. I think they will both live but at this time I can not afford to remove any good wood with leaves. Thing should change in a couple of months. If so I can send some bud wood. My one NZL put on about 30 lemons and is dropping them 1 by one. I don't want it to flower again so I will wait till the fruit is about an inch before removing them

    6b Steve

  • 9 years ago

    No worries steve, it was worth a shot. Hopefully ill find some somewhere, eager to try some grafting.

  • 8 years ago

    NZL flowered over and over for 3 months with no fruit set. Branches died back to 1/4 of tree left. I bare root transplanted the tree to check for water root rot problems. The soil was moist but not wet/soggy and there was no root rot. The soil smelled like good fresh soil. It appears the tree flowered until the roots starved and died. I will see over time if any part of the roots are alive and grow. n The original NZL from Pip is stillalive and planted outside. It has flower buds coming on with some growth and some insect problem that come with growing in winter time.

    Steve

  • 8 years ago

    I hope your trafted tree survives. Good luck!

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Vladimir (Zone 5b Massachusetts)
  • 8 years ago

    As far as we know you own the only nz lemonade on us897. A “Florida” rootstock on a scion that until recently only available from California.


    You are the guinea pig for compatibility. So if it dies, please chop it up for us to see if it’s incompatible or possibly just some other issue.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked pip313
  • 8 years ago

    Steve, i hope it survives!

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Saltysea (Oz)
  • 8 years ago

    One last gasp for NZL

    Steve


  • 8 years ago

    Fingers crossed for you buddy .

    Brian

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked nulesm
  • 8 years ago

    2-14-18

    By the end of February I will know if the tree is out of the woods.

    Steve

  • 8 years ago

    It is baaaack, yay Steve, you won't loose it, looking great!

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked sunshine (zone 6a, Ontario,Canada)
  • 8 years ago

    Was that the struggling lemonade tree Steve? It looks wonderful. Well done! You must have nurtured it so well.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Saltysea (Oz)
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    It is the same tree. Thanks.

    Steve

  • 8 years ago

    Bucket light to the rescue and that is some nice growth after 3 weeks! I am nursing my Tango back from the precipice. Crossing fingers for your NZL.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked jenny_in_se_pa
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Hey Steve if you have any US897 would like to try to graft some of my sumo tree on it. I have some flying dragon ordered to try to graft dwarf sumos. I have been gone a long time from the chat I know sorry. I Had a lot of loss and hurt to deal with, don't know if I will ever be the same but I'm at a good place now. My trees are healthy and still here they didn't fruit much because I didn't baby them. Just cared enough for them to not die or be sick. Most of the time I cried drunk or sleep tried to end things a few times Just stopped loving my hobby of citrus and life for bit just didn't want to live anymore. Was in a very dark place for a while I shut off everything for a while. Thank God I'm not there anymore .My mom died in 2016 then my dad in 2017 and before that my brother in 2008. After a few years to heel I'm happy again and love to grow trees again. I find joy this year in my car a cara blooming and the sweet smell of it. I missed everyone here.

    Hugs

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked tcamp30144(7B N.ATLANTA)
  • 8 years ago

    Flying dragon can be grown outside in Atlanta with a very cold hardy citrus scion. I will look through my stock.

  • 8 years ago

    flowers turn to fruitlets on my in ground outside NZL. This is not the tree shown above but the tree I got te grafting scion from to get the tree above

    Trace I need your address. I have 2 that I can send you.

    Steve

  • 8 years ago

    So sorry for your losses, Tcamp! It's very good to see you in the forum :)

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked sunshine (zone 6a, Ontario,Canada)
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Thank you all I will try to graft you a sumo tree Steve

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked tcamp30144(7B N.ATLANTA)
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Congrats on your save . Hopefully its out of the woods. Harvested my first NZL today will try it tmrw.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked devsense
  • 8 years ago

    Trace

    I will let you know when I' be able to send the trees. They are planted in garden soil as seedlings for transplant outside in heavy clay loom. I am putting them to sleep now. They are to heavy to ship so I will bare root them with compost and ship them when it is cold but above freezing for safe travel.

  • 8 years ago

    OK thank u

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked tcamp30144(7B N.ATLANTA)
  • 8 years ago

    My wife's camera is much better.

    Steve

  • 8 years ago

    Trace I contacted your county extension agent and mine. It is a federal felony to ship citrus trees across your state line. It is illegal for me to ship citrus out of my state to a citrus quarantine state. I can't ship anything to you and you should not ship any citrus to any other state. Flying dragon is a better rootstock than US897. You can plant very cold hardy scions grafted to flying dragon outside in ground where you live. You will need a.

    or a
    and a string of
    125 watts total.

    You will get more off an in ground FL with scion citrus over any potted citrus tree on any rootstock.

    Steve

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    It's OK I know I can vet citrus from anywhere in the us I just can't ship it out. But it's OK thanks the same. You do know I live in Georgia not Florida right.

  • 8 years ago

    You live in Atlanta Georgia Micro zone 8a barely. Your flying dragon rootstock can grow outside with the correct scion varieties. If your kumquat had been grafted to FD instead of volk you would be picking boo coops of kumquats now. Another thing to use is Seville sour orange rootstock. Buy a sour orange with PLU 3109. This is the best root sock for flavor and production. You don't have tristeza so it will be safe. It will be ready to graft by august 2018 if you plant the seeds today. I have a couple of Seville seedlings I hope to graft by late June.

  • 8 years ago

    It looks like my NZL tree will survive

  • 8 years ago

    Steve your tree looks great!

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked jenny_in_se_pa
  • 8 years ago

    What a comeback!

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Alanna Migliacci
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks Jenny and Alanna. I did not think It would live. I think it is out of the woods now. I have to make a decision on whether to through it in the ground or keep it potted.

    Steve

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Steve, it is growing in to a beautiful tree and will reward all your hard work!

    I like the neutral background in the picture, the tree stands out!

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked sunshine (zone 6a, Ontario,Canada)
  • 8 years ago

    Steve, your NZL tree looks beautiful. Great job with it.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked jinnylea
  • 8 years ago

    I seem to have not posted a picture of it last october when it was at its best

    New Zealand lemonade on US897 rootstock. · More Info
    8 months ago before the root rot and die back.

  • 8 years ago

    What I would do to get a nzl again :(

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked pip313
  • 8 years ago

    At least my baby is in good hands

  • 8 years ago

    Pip The NZL variety seems to be plague with many problem. Twigs die and leaves drop. One NZL flowered, droped all fruit and flowered again and again until the leave droped and the branches died back almost to the graft line as seen above I have a sour orange rootstock ready but Its been over 2 years since my tree has produced graftable buds. So I wait. When I grafte 29 months ago I found 3 buds and I removed each bud with the bronch left on the tree. My tree lost 3 leaves as I took 3 buds of which one grew.

    The big Question Does any one have a New Zealand lemonade that is growing and producing well for them.

    Steve

  • 8 years ago

    It’s extremely popular in Australia. I can’t belive that it’s so burdensome there. I guess the next logical question is what rootstock are they using?

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked pip313
  • 8 years ago

    It is a home grown tree and not grown in orchards. That alone tells us a lot. I do live in 6b and that is a whole different kettle of lemons for success.

  • 8 years ago

    I remember lol. I did live north of you and all.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked pip313
  • 8 years ago

    Pip Why did you move. It is so much easier to get citrus trees up here than in where ever you are

    \Steve

  • 8 years ago

    Steve, The big Question Does any one have a New Zealand lemonade that is growing and producing well for them.

    I have one and two died.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Vladimir (Zone 5b Massachusetts)
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Yes, I have a rather large New Zealand Lemonade tree growing in a 3.5' tall X 3.5' wide X 3.5' long commercial container. It is doing great. It flowers 4 or 5 times a year. I really enjoy picking a fruit or two as I walk by to eat out of hand. Very refreshing. Its fertilized using Peters 25-5-15. When I water, I water heavy and deep, then let it dry out over the next couple weeks. The tree is growing in MGGS blended with popcorn sized perlite.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Silica
  • 7 years ago

    NZL now

    steve

  • 7 years ago

    Steve, it has really grown well and has beautiful shape!

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked sunshine (zone 6a, Ontario,Canada)
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    You go guy!! Your jungle getting near completion, like mine.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked Monyet
  • 7 years ago

    Thanks Sunshine, Bob

    I really did not expect this tree to survive after loosing all but one leave and most of its libs. If we were to tie the record low in Cincinnati. My rooftop plants would be killed on the 14 September then every day beyond the 20 September. Ground level plants will take a minimum of 5 weeks from now.

    At its worst with 1 leaf left. I believe that leaf is still there.

    New Zealand lemonade on US897 rootstock. · More Info


    Steve

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    8 months later time to transplant. now in a 10 gallon pot



    with one lemonade.

    Steve

  • 7 years ago

    Steve, what's the best rootstock for a NZL in a container? Not really worried about disease resistance, really just growth and taste(and compatibility). Also what about Xie shan and miho wase, I have 2 PT and one Seville rootstock available.

    poncirusguy6b452xx thanked jaydub83
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I am guessing Seville sour orange to be the best, then Poncirus trifoliata not flying dragon.

    Steve

  • 7 years ago

    Just like last year my NZL is putting out a ton of flowers while some leaves drop and grown pre-ripe fruit drops to feed flower that turn to fruits that were then sacrificed to produce more flowers.



    Was growing daily and stopped when tree started flowering then dropped as new fruits started.

    Flavorless.

    The new set of fruit-lets will grow and the tree will flower again and drop the growing fruits to feed the flowers. My tree is under good light. I am questioning whether the US897 rootstock is worth using.

    Steve