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todd7361

New to Phoenix gardening but went ALL IN

9 years ago

We decided to build a garden patio area in my rear yard here in central Phoenix. We went a bit overkill on size creating a garden to border a 12'x12' patio. Basically its 4 gardens beds. The main bed is 24" high and is 4'wide and runs around the patio at about 24' length per side. 2 of the sides are actually about 16' leaving the corner as the main entry to the center patio. The East side is 24' and is bordered by the 6' wall on my property line. (the neighbor has 10-15' oleandar's on his side of the wall). /the south side is also 24' bordered by my south property line wall. /the alley behind has 15-20' high tamarisk trees growing. The West and North sides are only 16' long, with the North side being 6' away from my single story home and the west side not bordered by anything. There is a large tree at approx. the same location as the would be Northwest corner of the main garden. (the main garden doesn't extend to this area as the entrance to the center patio is here). Garden number #2 is a 4'x8' raised bed around the tree trunk. 1' deep garden. additonaly on the inside of the west and north sides are 1' deep 3.5' x 7' raised gardens Garden #3 and Garden #4.


As of now we are growing the following:

Winter and Summer Squash

Watermelon

Cantaloupe

Corn

Musk Melon



Comments (7)

  • 9 years ago

    Main Garden West side

    Winter Squash

    Summer Squash

    Cantaloupe

    Watermelon

    Muskmelon

    Purple Sweet Corn

    Blueberry "bountiful Blue"


    South side from West to east

    Garden Beans

    Potatoes

    Spinach

    Kale

    Red Cabbage

    Leaf Lettuce

    Carrots

    Beats

    Garlic

    Onions

    Broccoli

    Tomatoes


    East Side

    Tomatoes

    Tomatillos

    Bell Peppers

    Shishito

    Jalapenoa

    Cayenne

    Sweet Bananna

    Sweet baby bells


    North Side

    Lima beans

    Bhut Pepper

    Habanero

    Pepper Bush

    Spinach

    Garlic

    Soya Beans

    Jelly Bean Blueberry


    Garden 2

    Stawberry

    Hulaberry

    Goliath Sunflower

    Purple Corn

    Pinapple

    Southern Blue Blue berry


    Garden 3

    Lycee tree

    Medlar tree

    Honey Fig

    Pomegranite (Anna Black?)

    Blueberry


    Garden 4

    Loquat

    Pomegranite Eversweet

    Letizia Fig

    Pink Lemonade Blueberry

    "undetermined"




  • 9 years ago

    We sowed indoors from late jan until early march. Started planting in Mid March, and planted additional seeds at that time.

    Along the wall are Gojiberry, goldenberry, Grape, Passion vine with pollinator?, Chinese lantern, raspberry and blackberry in the Southeast corner

  • 9 years ago

    As of now the tomatoes are 4-5' high, squash have small fruits developing, Cucumber in the squash area has one 5" cuc already. First Cantaloupe is developing and all of these are flowering like crazy. Spinach kale and lettuce have been harvested one time for dinners. Potatoes are huge. Goji just started flowering, goldenberry is flowering and developing fruit. Beans developed and we let the dry on the vine. a few tomatillos are developing as are some tomatoes. All seems to be doing great. We might have been late with the corn but wanted it more for shade this year.


    Strawberry's are struggling. new leaves are developing, but old leaves seem to be getting sunburnt and browning. runners galore. they flower. fruits have been small and some we got were very tasty.


    Blueberry's are all doing well. EXCEPT the bountiful Blue in the west side of the main garden, Sun is getting the best of it so I put up a shade to help her out.


    The west wall of my yard Has a line of fruit trees and shrubs...

    6-8 Papayas from 1' to 4' tall

    Sherbert berry 5'tall

    Ice Cream Bananna

    Manzano banana - both nearing 5' and developing leaves consistently

    Surinam cherry

    Black surinam cherry

    Guavas -- pink yellow and white - pink is struggling (root ball was damaged during planting.

    Dragonfruit ( had to try it)




  • 9 years ago

    as I said we are all in. I tried to paint a picture of the garden. Any random thoughts advice would be greatly appreciated. This season is a trial run. We are hoping the fall season will come with tremendous success and better planning for our unique climate

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Wow, good job. I thought I planted a lot on my first garden. I hope you have automatic watering.. if not, you'll want to set one up and it's very easy. I started out with a garden watering kit and that showed me what parts to buy for my real setup (the parts that usually come in the kits are very cheap and you'd be lucky to get them to last a year).

    A few notes about various plants:

    The guavas, dragonfruit, loquat, pineapple, and papayas will most likely need protection in the winter if it drops below 40 a lot in your area. You can just cover them with a blanket on the cold nights and I like to put a light under the blanket with them when it drops below 30 (or an iguana heater but be careful with those and point them in a safe direction so it doesn't fry the plant, I usually point it at a bare spot on the ground). Make sure the cloth drapes to the ground and not tied to the trunk or anything like that.

    If you want fruit from the bananas be ready to protect the flower if it starts in Oct or later. They also get some yellow leaves in our sun in the summer so if it's young with a few leaves, try to get it a little shade for its first year or two, otherwise when it gets big it's fine to burn a few leaves in the summer.

    My sherbet berry stays dormant until May and every year I think the winter finally got it, but it keeps coming back. The berries seem ill timed for my area (at least so far).

    Blueberries.. I've had my share of mistakes with these. If you are able to get them to grow in the ground for longer than a year, you're doing something right and you should let me know what variety it is! I grow all mine in containers for now until I find a variety that's okay with alkaline soil for long periods of time. (I may have found one and I'm cloning it this year to test). I put them into a spot that gets afternoon shade starting in May (although there's a few varieties that can handle the sun, none of them look as good as the ones in the shade after the summer is over). Try to never let the soil dry out around these plants, they use a lot of water and don't take dry soil well. This is one of the plants that drove me to automatic watering. I give mine ammonium sulfate for fertilizer and to help with the ph of the soil.

    Strawberries are another plant you don't want to let dry out, I water mine daily in the late spring/summer (even in the ground). Unlike blueberries, they are fine with all types of soil though.

    I had a Goji but I removed it. It kept getting attacked by bugs (weevils I believe) every year, and I kept having to treat it for mildew every year (and the plant didn't have a very nice look to it).

    The hulaberries go crazy with runners, watch out for it taking over your garden :)

    Good luck with everything, it sounds fun!

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks Ian (or Andy?) for a lengthy reply.

    I do have the irrigation run to the garden. 3 separate lines plus a couple hose bibs for that area. I have not hooked up the drips, so we have been hand watering mornings or nights. We actually enjoy it, as it allows us to watch as everything has been growing, but hopefully this week, I will finish the irrigation hookups and allow that to take over.

    The blueberries were taking off for us very nicely. The dog got to the new growth on the Pink Lemonade, which set it back again, and the BOUNTIFUL BLUE has a severe sunburn. This is the one located in the most sun on the Main Garden's west side. It only picks up a little morning sun but from 12:00 to 6:00 it is in a furnace. I put a burlap sac for shade a couple days ago. This was the one rated "Most likely to handle ARIZONA.. lol So I put it in the harshest spot of all the Blueberries. I used a sulfate, peat Spagham mixed with soil and some clay to create the well draining acidic soil, and they are all doing well. So far so goo except for the sunburn. I am going to try the shade for a while and hopefully can allow full sun by the end of summer. I am big on symmetry and struggling with the thought of not having it there.

    The blackberry and Raspberry are in the SouthWest Corner and I might move him to this location. Gets far more shade and definitely is much cooler back there.

    The Goji's are flowering which I just noticed this weekend. IT is a spindly bush. I am trying to train it to use the grapevine trellis and climb the EAST wall.

    I am willing to do what it takes once winter comes. We are in the Arcadia LTE neighborhood (East Central Phoenix South of camelback Rd). Cold days come but my irrigation pipes have never been insulated and are exposed PVC on the North side of the home. Never been a problem in the past 5 years. (Been here a while- just finally decided to do something with the back yard)

    Hulaberries and Strawberries are on the West side of the large tree in garden #2. They seem to be getting torched a bit by the sun. I didn't expect that so soon in spring, and I was going to put a shade up, but noticed smaller leaves developing at the centers of most of the plants. I will watch them for a while. I have some corn coming up and sunflowers (Goliath) coming up. My plan was some natural shade from the taller plants.

    Our tomatoes are currently fruiting. We have about 30 tomatoes at various stages, and 4-5 x that flowering. I'm hoping we get some production before the summer heat shuts it down. We opted for a higher density planting in hopes of creating a more favorable micro climate.

  • 9 years ago

    Loquat won't need protection, they're hardy down to the low teens.

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