Oh, Sara-Ann you sound smitten, I'm going to predict there'll be one in your future. I've never grown her but she does look beautiful.

Jane

Smithdale, I hope you are correct in that prediction.

Would like to know more about this rose.

I have seen gorgeous pictures of CPM in other people's gardens on this forum, so I know she can be that lovely rich apricot- yellow color and bloom well for others. In my case, she absolutely will not bloom unless she has surviving cane over the winter, and even last year that was mild I didn't have surviving cane. Even in 2013 that was her best year, she really only had one flush and not much bloom after that. In my garden, she functions a lot like Madame Alfred Carriere - nice if she blooms but needs to be in the background if she doesn't.

On the plus side, she has very very flexible canes that lend themselves well to a tripod, and the canes get long so they need attention once a week or so. She hasn't ever responded to pegging by putting up laterals, just lays fainting on the ground doing nothing if I don't wind her around something.

Needless to say my experience isn't what you want from CPM, but others find her a great plant. Even the color is a very average cream for me without the gorgeous rich color and form other show. Still, she's in a good spot and she stays since I have room for her. I wouldn't replace her if she died though.

Cynthia

I have 2 CPMs. This is my second year with them. They are both in the 10ft range on the longest canes. Last year they had absolutely NO rebloom so I figured they were duds lol. This year, they have been blooming in flushes. They are a lighter orange in our hot weather..light orange sherbert but soft and pretty. Here's a pic I took yesterday.

Don't grow it personally, but my understanding is that once plants are established, plants will not bloom/or will bloom infrequently in warm-summer areas like OK. See http://rosomanes.blogspot.com/2014/02/rose-alphabet-c.html

Were you the one who was growing Lady of Shalott Sara-Ann? That one is more orange than CPM but with better repeat and less fragrance.

Sultry Jasmine that's a lovely photo, so perfect with the daisy like flowers. Diane

I have one that grow right by my front door. It is a small climber here in 6b, has an arching habit so that it would benefit from some support. It is never without bloom, and only get a touch of blackspot. It has few thorns. Among all the Austin yellows/apricots that I have grown, this is the best performing one. Go for it!!!

Thank you everyone for your honest opinions. I think I will try it.

I planted one last spring just south of you in North Texas. It is blooming it's head off since we left the hot weather of July and early August behind. It has a nice full bloom with a nice scenr. If you like yellows, it Graham Thomas, Golden Celebration, and Teasing Georgia are all doing well for me. As is Lady of Shallot.

Thank you, Diane :) those daisy flowers are weeds that spring up everywhere on our farm. I leave a lot of them because the butterflies love them so much. There was a black carpenter bee on it right before I snapped the pic but he flew off. Too bad lol.

Wish we had weeds like that. I think it's neat that the beneficial insects love them, too. Diane

Beautiful combination, James!

James, would you please explain more about planting the rooted cuttings around the mother plant? How much distance between the rooted cuttings and the mother plan? Will it have issue later? Helen

Sorry for not responding. I happened to revisit this thread and saw your question. I've done this with lots of Austins and OGR roses. I plant the rooted cuttings about a foot to a foot and a half away from the mother. As they grow up the whole thing forms what looks like one really big bush. Odd numbers of plants seem to look better so either 3 or 5 together. David Austin actually recommends doing this on his website to achieve a more filled out cottage style effect. Although that look isn't really achieved until all of the plants have about 3 years or more to grow to a more mature size. Actually you can see the mother plant of the CPM growing behind the one blooming in the photo. Now, a year later since I'm responding so late, all three plants are about the same size. About 5.5 to 6 feet tall. The three together are about an area that is 5.5 to 6 feet wide. Right next to this CPM is a red moss, a Salet, and Issac Pereire that I've done the same thing with. In the winter you can easily distinguish the separate bushes, but during the growing season, when everything is growing full blast, it really looks like one big and very full bush. They really don't have any problems growing closely together. In the spring I might prune out a dead cane or two, or ones that might be crossing badly, but I tend to prune as little as I have to anyway.

What an intriguing idea, James! I tend to have only one representative of most of the roses in my yard and don't necessarily want to take the space for a second version of a cultivar, but for most of them I'd welcome them being a bushier bush. it makes sense given what Austin roses has recommended, I just hadn't considered making my own cuttings to do this. I've needed to get the hang of rooting cuttings anyway, and this resolves the problem of where to plant them once it actually succeeds. I'll definitely give that a try this summer.

I agree that this is a lovely photo and a testament to the success of your technique.

Cynthia

I planted 3 own root CPM from David Austin Roses last year next to a fence that was north facing. The canes and roots were HUGE!! I decided to move them a few weeks later even though they were beginning to bud out. I then planted one by itself against a west facing wall and 2 of them 3 feet out from a north facing wall. I used DAR rose food on them and waited. They put out huge canes, bloomed continuously all summer long, and smelled devine!! Towards fall, the whole bed was in the shade due to the sun moving north and they STILL bloomed their hearts out. The color was more pinky apricot in the fall. These have become my favorite roses.

These 2 are planted about 14 inches apart.

Same roses side shot. These were photos of their first bloom. They did this 3 times and grew another 3 feet tall. (Do not try to keep them short... tried that a few years ago and ended up yanking them out in frustration. Dumb.)

The ones I tried to keep short were in the coldest part of zone 4 and endured wicked winter winds and -20 F temps and survived. They were also DAR own root. FABULOUS ROSE!!

Rebecca

p.s. More shots showing color and size...

Keep in mind, these are FIRST YEAR blooms and growth.

I get a lot of variety on CPM. She is performing better than she was when I first got her. I do think she likes cooler winter temps that I can give her. I think she gets better as she ages. She does get more pinkish tones sometimes.

Beautiful!

Mine is really healthy and grows really tall, and strong, with no issues, but I find it is a really stingy bloomer. I am not even sure it bloomed twice the last couple of summers. It also grows quite large. Mine is used as a hedge/border. For the people who had rebloom issues, did it every get better and when? And was there a "trick" to it?

Here's mine...It grows on a fence and it must be over 5 feet.