I'd put the ovens on the other wall, and move the island closer to the sink wall, to leave more space for chairs at the table. It looks as if you have space to make the island longer, and put an extra stool on the end facing the laundry door. I can't tell what you have on the end of the range wall.

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Thank you for your comment! I would like to make the island larger and just might do that. Good idea to add another stool to the side. Im not sure about moving the ovens. I'll have to think about that. On the end of the range wall was another 24" tall cabinet that would be a sort of pullout pantry. Does MW mean microwave? If so, I won't have a microwave but will need lots of room for snacks.

Yes, I put a microwave on a shelf beside the oven, with landing space for the ovens below. Without the MW, that space would be convenient for snacks--close to the table.

If you make the island longer, you might reconsider a prep sink. With four kids you'll have helpers in the kitchen, and with a water source, the island would be better for prepping. If you feel like facing the kids at the island, or facing the dining space, you could use it as the main prep space. An integrated cutting board that fits over a positive reveal can return the sink to counter space when needed. I forgot to mention in the previous post that I made the island 42" deep, rather than the 36" that was drawn. That includes 15" seating overhang, a back panel, and overhang on the working side. The side overhang is also 15".

I really like the long dining table!

I have considered a second sink in the island but my husband tells me it's too late to decide that because we have a concrete foundation and didn't run plumbing to the island. How difficult is it to go back and add it after the foundation has been poured?

Running the water probably wouldn't be a big deal, but tying in the drain would be more of a problem. Are you doing the plumbing yourselves? Also, if there is plumbing, the island can't be considered mobile, so you might need to add electric to comply with safety code in your area.

If your island does not have plumbing or electrical, it doesn't have to be built-in. Mine is not built in, but substantial enough not to move easily. I do like that I can move it if necessary. I do not have open concept and sometimes and I am glad to be able to move it out of the way if an appliance is being delivered or we need to get a large item to the basement. That doesn't seem to be an issue for you, but just a thought depending on your needs. I do have to clean under it.

Honestly I would first start by posting your house in the building a home forum.

Your master bedroom is larger than the usable space in your living room.

Your dining area is too small to be usable.

You have the master up against the kitchen so any noise in the kitchen will be heard in the bedroom.

Your master closet is getting the best exterior space (a corner where you could have a room with windows on two walls) and I could go on and on.

Where is the mechanical room?

Do you have elevations yet?

You need to get your floor plans and elevations as they relate to your exterior land before you worry about deciding where to put the appliances.

Agree w/ cpartist, begin by getting some additional opinions on your overall floorplan.

cp and mdln it sounds like the slab is already poured.

Is your island permanent/fixed? Do you live in the US? If so, you need electric in the island per Code. Electricity is required for all fixed/permanent islands. Now, if it's a rolling cart type of island, then you don't need electric. If you don't live in the US, you may not need it, I don't know if it's part of the international codes or just US codes.

Did anyone who understands residential building codes review your plans?

I'm just concerned that when your home is inspected, it will not pass code and it will be much more expensive to fix it then than it would be now.

Yes the slab is already poured. The interior walls have not been put in and can be moved. The building inspector is privy to all plans and it will pass inspection. I forgot to mention that part of the reason the island wouldn't have water or electric is because it would not be fixed/permanent. I appreciate your comment about putting the floor plans in the building a home forum. I may do that.

The powder room door needs changed. It will be VERY tough to get in there and then shut the door.

I like mammagoose's changes.

You're right about the half bath. Thanks!

I'd turn the powder room into a nice walk in coat closet. There are two full baths right around the corner unless you really need 4 bathrooms in the house?

This is a very large rectangular house, I had to keep looking at the dimensions to remind me that its not a 1500 square foot house.

The tandem baths look to be very narrow. Not sure if that can be changed. You might want to put small windows in them so that someone can use them in the daytime without turning on the light.

I have nothing to add/change about your layout, as I'm a kitchen reno newbie. but I just wanted to say that I could have written this post! I'm planning a L shaped kitchen with island. White cabinets marble-like quartz, stainless appliances, and I homeschool my kids too! So I completely understand what it's like to have a busy, well-used kitchen. And I totally get wanting no appliances in the island so the kids can help! You've got a huge pantry planned, which is one of the most important things for me, too. And I'm dying of envy over your huge school room!

I hope you'll post your final your layout, and maybe some photos throughout the building process.

Personally I'd make the following changes.

I showed you in gray how you have almost no actual great room space. You need to account for walkways, etc. The grey indicates the actual usable space on your plan for the great room. Note how it's a tiny space in such a large house

I would remove the powder room. Then I'd move the door into the front bedroom to next to the bathroom. This would give you a longer wall for furniture or a tv or a bookcase or... The other advantage is now the door to the bedroom isn't in the great room so there's more privacy.

I made the closet more of a small walk in closet in the front bedroom and added a "window" seat and a window between the closet and the front of the house. If not a window seat, it could house a desk, or a chair or a???

In the second bedroom, I moved the entry too so now you don't have an awkward wall you walk towards when you go into the hallway.

I wouldn't be so concerned with exterior symmetry as you need to concern yourself with interior space. I would move the doors to the side closest to the office. I personally would make it a single 36" wide door, but left the double doors. Then I'd shift the windows over so you have 4 windows in the great room.

Now notice how you have a narrower hallway space but a much larger great room?

I shortened your left perimeter counter in your kitchen and moved your cooktop closer up a bit. You still have plenty of prep space and this now gives you some room in a dining room area to put a buffet or some nice furniture.

I increased your island size and I flipped the dishwasher to the side between the fridge and sink. This now creates good flow from fridge to sink to prep to cooking.

That is so neat hwierenga! I would love to find a forum of homeschoolers building a house because I think we all look at things from a little different perspective than most people since we're all home ALL DAY long!

cpartist thank you so much for your time and comments! That's a lot to think about! I'll be sitting down and really considering everything you suggested!

stephrdob, because the slab has already been poured, I know you can't move plumbing so basically kept all the plumbing where it is and only changed things that I know can still be changed. Yes if you eliminate the powder room, you'll have to cap the toilet and sink lines in that room, but it's easy to do at this point since it's only rough plumbing.

I looked at your plan again and realized it would work better to mirror image the two bedrooms on the right and move the closet between the two bathrooms. This would also give you another 6" - 8" in the great room.

Additionally I flipped the closet in the master bedroom and turned the opening to the new entryway. The advantage of this is if one sleeps later or goes to bed later, you're not necessarily waking the other person. It also makes your master bedroom a bit more private.

Please let us know what you decide to do. :) And best of luck. Sounds like I'm just behind you as our slab is being poured hopefully tomorrow.

Well I spent last night reworking a LOT of the floor plan. The biggest change was removing the office altogether. I will try to upload the plan I drew on graph paper. Is there a program I can use to make a drawing like you did cpartist? Congrats on your slab. That's an exciting day!

I use photoshop which Ive been using for well over 10 years. Can you live without the office? Especially since you're home all day?

Yes we can definitely live without the office. We will have a school room that can function as an office. I'm very happy with the changes we have made. Thank you all for pointing out about the great room's usable space especially. This was a concern of mine and hearing you all point out the same issues made me realize we needed to make some changes.