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Fiddle Leaf Fig Leaf Loss, Recovery and Growth

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

Hi everyone, I'm new to this website/forum.

I came across this website when I was searching for solutions to my current problem with my newly acquired Fiddle Leaf Fig tree.

I've had the tree for about 3 wks. Within a week of having it home from the nursery a single leaf started yellowing and turning brown. I'd planned to hold off watering it for a week as I wasn't sure of the last time it had been watered by the nursery. But with the appearance of the yellowing leaf I decided to give it a thorough watering and frequent leaf spritzes - the leaf still yellowed and fell off. Then black spots started to appear on leaves that were once healthy.

After asking for some advice I was told that the tree was probably over-watered before I got it and that I'd probably added to it and to take it out of it's pot to check it's roots. I took the tree out of it's pot - it was waterlogged. There also were large swaths of white streaks on the sides of the rootball's soil and what I once thought were large chunks of perlite on the topsoil were probably moldy chunks of soil.

I went to a nearby nursery (not the one I originally bought the tree from) showed them pictures and asked their opinion. They confirmed the soil had mold and advised me to repot the tree removing as much of the moldy soil as possible.

After re-potting I didn't water it thinking I'd give it time to dry out. The next day it went drastically limp. I assumed it was replant shock and didn't want to over-water it again so I waited a few days to re-water, checking with a water meter to see if the soil was moist (which the reading indicated it was).

Withing those few days about 15-20 of the leaves dried up fell off. I decided to water the tree despite the water meter. it's doing better now but more than half the leaves have fallen off and only the top leaves remain.

I want the tree to re-bud where the leaves fell off but I know that the Fiddle Leaf tree's leaves tend to only make new buds at the top of branches. Is there a way that I can get it to re-bud where the leaves fell off? Will it ever make new leaves on it's lower branches again on it's own?

I read some assorted posts on the subject and there's mention of slitting the branches a fraction of an inch to encourage lower growth. There's mention of cutting off some of the top leaves, but I don't want to do that b/c they're the only ones that remain.

Some advice either way would be greatly appreciated. I've also included pictures

Comments (11)

  • 8 years ago

    The soil mix looks good. The fungus could be one of several that help break down soil components. It doesn't seem to be hurting the roots by the look of the photos provided. Going too dry and acclimating to a new environment will precipitate sudden leaf loss. Branching is very problematic indoors. In less that ideal growing conditions, cutting the stem will only result in one branch developing just below the cut.

  • 8 years ago

    There's a helpful thread in this forum on that has dozens of posts about ficuses with the same problem though the title talks about pruning them, and I strongly recommend at least scanning it.

    Ficuses always want to grow upward, but they will back-bud when pruned IF they're healthy and getting ample light, meaning light falling directly on their leaves. But something is wrong with your ficus, so I wouldn't necessarily expect new growth anywhere until you figure out what's going on.

    The roots that do the hard work of taking up water to support the above-ground part of a plant are fine and white, not the lignified brown ones I see in that rootball. The fine white roots need air for oxygen, and most have probably drowned in the saturated soil, causing the plant to shed the leaves its roots could no longer support, starting from the bottom of the plant. Once the plant has regrown those roots it will respond to pruning by back-budding.

    You don't want to water until the the whole thing has dried out. Yes, the whole rootball, because even when it seems dry there's some water in the soil particles that the roots can access. Don't water until a sharpened dowel (a wooden skewer or unfinished chopstick comes out clean and dry, then water until 15-20% of the volume of the pot drains out.

    Obviously, if the pot doesn't have a drain hole, you need to put the ficus into appt that does.

    Finally, ficuses want tons of light falling directly on their leaves, so move it to the sunniest location you have.

    Lilliah thanked litterbuggy (z7b, Utah)
  • 8 years ago

    if it's the " training/pruning" post, I've already posted on there, but no one seems to be addressing my specific post.


  • 8 years ago

    Did I give you what you needed? I know there have been some great recent discussions where Al gave very specific info about how to prune a FLF to get new branches or leaves in specific areas, and I thought that thread contained at least a few different examples of that kind of thing. I assumed those discussions would give you enough specifics about pruning to start with. I've learned a lot about what makes a ficus happy, but I'm not very knowledgeable about pruning yet.

    By the way, if the soil is still saturated just take the plant out of the pot and place it on a stack of newspapers, which will wick some excess water out.



    Lilliah thanked litterbuggy (z7b, Utah)
  • 8 years ago

    Hi litterbuggy,

    Your advice was helpful. I heard/read about pruning as a way to encourage new buds, but I was hoping not to cut off anything that was currently there. because I want those branches to still continue to grow.

    I read on the training/pruning blog that you could create slits in the branches that disrupt the growth hormone that signals the top of the plant to bud so that it will bud all along the plants branch not just the top, I'm looking for more guidance in terms of doing something like that, but I don't want to inadvertently damage the plant further.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    After spending half an hour on the following post it occurred to me that a houseplant forum search for "nicking" might yield more accurate information. Sure enough, I found several threads containing Al's explanations, but I spent so much time on mine that I refuse to delete it!!!!!

    Here are a few of the threads. The nicking discussions aren't long but I think Al's post on the first link explains the effects of nicking vs pruning. Use the search box at the top of the page to find even more threads.

    http://forums2.gardenweb.com/discussions/1458989/fiddle-leaf-fig-question?n=1

    http://forums2.gardenweb.com/discussions/1465570/pruning-ficus-lyrata-to-branch?n=24

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    My now-superfluous post:

    Ah, I see; most people seem to call that nicking, not slitting. The reason you haven't found info on it is that few people do it, but Al has gone into it the few times he's been asked. I'll describe it as best I can from what I remember of his posts about it.

    Anyway, you would use a sharp sterilized (just in case) knife to cut a small horizontal wedge through the cambium (basically the living usually green layer under the bark) right above a leaf node. Nicking (or pruning) above a node stops the inhibitory hormone from the top of the tree from reaching it, letting it respond to hormones that direct it to grow. The same thing happens when you prune. Whether you prune or nick, the amount of back-budding you'll get depends on the plant's condition.

    IMO, if the stress that caused your ficus to drop leaves still exists, nicking or pruning won't have much (if any) effect so long as the plant is still under the stress that made it drop so many leaves. I'd guess that's because the weakened plant isn't producing the hormones that would stimulate growth above ground.

    That's been my experience. My ficuses didn't respond at all to tip-pinching last fall when they were still weak, but now after months of proper care and increased spring sunlight they're growing like crazy, including a lot of back-budding far back on its once-bare branches, without any intervention at all from me.

    I think that's an accurate description of what I've read!

    Lilliah thanked litterbuggy (z7b, Utah)
  • 8 years ago

    You may have seen this thread already, but it's a good primer on what goes on when plants aren't doing well.

    Sick and dying plants

    Lilliah thanked litterbuggy (z7b, Utah)
  • 8 years ago

    litterbuggy,

    Sorry for the late response,

    Thanks so much for looking into this for me! I really appreciate the effort you put into helping me find a solution, or better understand some of the concepts behind the possible solutions to the issues I've been having with my Fiddle Leaf Tree.

    Nicking is what I was referring to and now that I know the proper terminology I can do more research into that. But from your advice, others advice, and research I've been doing on my own, I think my fiddle leaf is probably recovering from a lot of different issues and I need to give it time to bounce back by just not doing anything to it but the basics (water, light and the occasional fertilizer) and hope it gets strong enough soon to start regenerating it's own leaves. Hopefully some of those new leaves will be back-budded ones. If not, I can experiment with nicking at that time.
    I live in an apartment with a balcony, and it's about to hit high summer temperature where I live, so I've been thinking about moving the Tree out there to get some more sun. That might help as well.

    I will check out the other forums you've linked me to and I'll give updates on how my my Fiddle as I try to get it back to good health.

  • 8 years ago

    Sounds like you've got a good grip on things. Be sure to acclimate the plant to the sun; start with bright indirect light, then put it in direct sun for an hour a day for a few days, add an hour for another few days...you get the idea.

  • 4 years ago

    I have had the exact same situation occur with my own FLF. Only have a few healthy leaves left on the top and wondered if there was any chance of regrowth. Please update with what you found to work for you, would love to know.

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