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kitchen appliances renovation 90k budget

8 years ago

I'm doing a a complete renovation of my kitchen. I live in an apartment and the kitchen is 200sqft in size, including a small eating area.


I don't need any special appliances. I'm thinking:


range

hood

dishwasher

fridge

wine fridge

oven

microwave


total budget is 90k-100k, including cabinets. What should I get?

Comments (16)

  • 8 years ago

    with this budget, unless go crazy with the cabinets and countertops, you can pretty much get whatever you want in appliances. my appliances budget was $14k, and ended up spending about $24k and got everything I wanted with all Miele appliances with a 48" subzero fridge.

  • 8 years ago

    I agree with Rych. When it was all said and done we spent over $100k on our kitchen and our appliances were about $25,000.

  • 8 years ago

    What/how do you cook? How do you use your oven? What cookware? 4vs6vs8 burners? Will you have ventilation?

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Do you actually cook? If not, go with top brand but not top luxury brand appliances unless you're doing this for resale value in your apt and your apt is very high in value.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Especially for an apartment I'd pick the appliances after you have a design, HOA/super approval, and have accepted a contractor's bid. $90-100K is a lot of money but it is expensive to work in apartments and even moreso if it is an old building where you could encounter any number of plumbing, electrical, asbestos, etc. problems. Maybe even wait until after demolition is done if the budget needs to be firm.

    Some key questions:

    Is there currently ducting for an external vent? If not, where would a vent go and will the building let you install an external vent? If you can't get an external vent go with an induction cooktop or range.

    What size fridge do you want? If the apartment is really suitable for only 1 or 2 people I'd consider a 30" wide refrigerator above/freezer below such as made by Miele and Thermador/Bosch. That's small for a typical American family but fine for 1 or 2 people especially if you have a separate wine refrigerator.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    With a small kitchen and possible venting issues in a building, be sure to consider and induction cooktop or range. Induction is considered superior to gas by many serious cooks (not dissing gas- just trying to explain how good induction is.) Plus gas creates air pollution in the house and the plain glass surface is more flexible in a tight space. Bosch's induction units get lots of love her. Less money than Miele. Good luck.

    ETA to change a mis-type.

  • 8 years ago

    Plus induction creates air pollution in the house

    Did you mean to say gas creates air pollution in the house?

  • 8 years ago

    As others asked, what is your cooking style?

    What does the apartment warrant in terms of appliances?

    For example, in my condo I just sold, while it was considered a high end condo, no one spent for top of the line SZ or Miele appliances. So when i redid our kitchen, I went with Bosch cooktop and oven, a KA dishwasher (although if i had it to do over, I'd definitely have done a Miele dishwasher) a Samsung fridge and a Sharp microwave drawer.

    What brand of cabinets are you looking at? Also what are you thinking for counters and backsplash? I think it all has to be worked out together. For example, you can get a beautiful quality kitchen faucet for $500 or for $3000.

    What are labor costs in your area? Too many questions need to be answered.

  • 8 years ago

    Yikes! I promise I was not typing under the influence! Of, course I meant GAS creates more air pollution. Thank you for noticing cpartist. My apologies for the sloppiness.

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks for all the comments! They're very helpful!


    I don't plan on selling the apartment for some time. It's just for my living in. In terms of my cooking style, I suppose it has a bit of everything? Definitely a decent amount of stir-frying for all the Chinese dishes.


    I haven't gotten to the cabinets, flooring, etc yet. I contacted a few contractors, and some of them quoted me a price for everything excluding appliances. They told me to just pick out the appliances myself, and they'll install it for me.


    I'm not necessarily looking for brand name appliances. But of course, if brand name ones are nice, I'm definitely not against them. I just want something of very good quality I can use myself.


    For example, I noticed a lot of complaints about Kitchen Aid on here, saying how they are just a slightly better Whirlpool product. I don't know if that's true, but if it is, I'd definitely want to get something more durable and of better quality.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Part of your choice range will be influenced by design. You can get a fully integrated kitchen. This will reduce your frig choices to Miele, Sub-Zero, Gaggenau, Liebherr and others you can find on AJMadison. I like a Miele dw, also available integrated. Cooktop or range would be induction. You could check out a steam oven from Miele.

    So I'd post a layout in the kitchen forum for ideas.

  • 8 years ago

    Pardon the ignorance. But what is a fully integrated kitchen? Is it that when the appliances have the same paneling as the cabinetry?

  • 8 years ago

    Yes, Newton, and more. What you described is "built-in" and "panelled". Fully integrated means that the appliance doors are flush with the cabinetry, and the panels are indistinguishable from the other cabinet panels (generally Euro style), except, perhaps, by the outline size and shape, though those can also be disguised. Personally, though I have a number of integrated appliances, I didn't want them to be hard to find, so put big appliance pulls on them.

  • 8 years ago

    So are there any particular recommendation people'd suggest? I imagine the best microwave, dishwasher, refrigerator I should get won't really depend on my cabinetry choices?

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I went ahead and made up this very rough list. I included three brands I knew in there (Kitchen Aid, Miele, and GE). Perhaps this could a starting point. I'm leaning towards just going with Miele to make everything more consistent. Is there a benefit to going with just one brand?

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  • 8 years ago

    Based on this

    "Definitely a decent amount of stir-frying for all the Chinese dishes."

    I would consider a BlueStar rangetop. This is a little outside what you are considering but has

    -high BTUs 22K-25K depending on the model.

    -star shaped, uncapped burners, allowing the flame to go straight up on high heat rather than more flared like a capped burner. This is better for cooking with a wok because the heat is more to the middle of the pan.

    Consider 30" vs 36"

    A rangetop will give you more room front to back.

    Also consider a Capital rangetop that has high BTUs but three ring uncapped burners. BS has different sized burners. Capital, they are all the same except one small pot burner.


    If you get a rangetop, you can pick a wall oven separately. You can save money on the oven if you don't use it that much or splurge. Put your money where you cook.

    Most on this forum would mix and match brands to pick the best appliance for the job for them. A few will stay with one brand either because they want to take advantage of a package deal or they want to have things match. Everyone of my appliances is a different brand.

    I picked my refrigerator based on layout and placement of the ice maker. I wanted it to be able to accommodate 9x13 pans front to back and had to have 48" width because I could not move a wall. It is KA but not sure if I would buy again. Fit and finish not that great and has required several service calls. I do like the layout though.

    Dishwasher bought on layout and Bosch gets pretty good reviews. It cleans well and has worked well. Many have the tray at the top giving you an extra shelf. I'm not a "place each piece of silverware in a slot " person but more throw it in a basket type though. Others like Miele.

    Ovens -this can be a more difficult choice but really depends on what is important. Do you use your broiler? How? I use it to brown half sheets of appetizers so need the wider coverage of an electric broiler. If you broil steaks, you might want an infrared broiler(hot but smaller) in a higher end gas oven so you might choose a range vs rangetop and wall oven. If you bake, you might want an electric oven but if you mostly roast meat and veggies, you might want gas. Electric ovens can have more complex modes that allow you to direct heat from as many as three elements and convection fans but require computer boards to do that. It requires learning how to use them. Gas is simple and the convection is on and off.

    My range a Wolf DF has been a big disappointment. I bought it for the oven and "settled" for the burners at the time. I ended up really liking the burners because of the great simmer which I use all the time, and even though it does not have as high of BTUs as BS, it has been ok for me, but I don't stir fry that much. I also use wide pans so the flare of a single ring burner is not a bad thing for me. The oven worked great but the blue enamel chipped off and it can't really be fixed so can only be used with covered dishes. KA has also had this issue of chipping with blue enamel. This is why I would get the oven and burners separate.