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Advice on Farmhouse Apron front double bowl sink.

8 years ago

I've been flip flopping over cast iron enamel (by Kohler) and a fireclay farmhouse sink (Highpoint, Vigo, Reinhard - staying away from Shaw since I read bad reviews). Any advice on a great sink that doesn't pool and isn't too delicate? With small kids, I'm concerned about the fireclay and the discoloration and chipping I've read about. I'm looking for a 33" 50/50 all white apron front.


Thanks!

Comments (31)

  • 8 years ago

    You can't go wrong w/Kohler cast iron enamel!

    mina279 thanked imhofan
  • 8 years ago

    Kohler whitehaven comes as 36" low divide double bowl. 33" is a single bowl. For frameless or full overlay the sink fits in same size cabinet. Are you sure you want a double, generally preference is for large singles.

    mina279 thanked DrB477
  • 8 years ago

    We are actually looking at the

    Kohler K-6534-4U Hawthorne 33" Double Basin Under-Mount Enameled Cast-Iron Kitchen Sink with Apron-Front. Double Basin is a must for us.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    mmmmm Ninety percent of every client of mine who has redone a kitchen has given up double bowl for a single. So much simpler. The other 10 % wish they had : )

    mina279 thanked JAN MOYER
  • 8 years ago

    Better two dishwashers than a double bowl sink. Handwashing anything is for the birds. And handwashing is the only reason that a double sink was ever popular in the first place. You can’t fit anything in those dinky little bowls.

    mina279 thanked User
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    To me the draw to a farm house sink is that it is huge and if you then split it in 2 it loses its charm.I actually don’t like them but if I was to install one for a client I would do one large sink.

    mina279 thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • PRO
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    The double bowl for those who cling to it, tends to be a lazy and ugly draining and drying spot......just saying. After all the agonizing that goes into a kitchen, I don't get the need to ugly it up .....but yes....it certainly is done quite often : )

    Or it is for separating disposal function, also not really necessary with good prep and cleanup order and process.

    mina279 thanked JAN MOYER
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    My engineer ex-hubby insisted on a double bowl when we were married and remodeled our kitchen in 1999. He did most of the cooking, so I gave in to that decision. I have since helped him re-do another kitchen and he finally decided to listen to me and get a large super single. He LOVES it....It's was so fun to say "I told ya so!". He has since sold that house and now is back to a double bowl. He can't wait to change it out! If I can change his habits from a double to a single, anybody can!

    mina279 thanked The Kitchen Place
  • 8 years ago

    I prefer double bowl as I rinse the dirty dishes in 1 bowl and put them in the second bowl. Once done, I load them into the dishwasher. This way I dont waste water or keep the water running when I loaded the dishes in DW one after the other

    mina279 thanked luv Mann
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    My DD told me she HATED my big, single Corian sink after I got it. She really had quite an animosity toward it - I really couldn't quite understand it as it was in MY kitchen, not hers!

    Then, she decided to get new countertops, backsplash and sink and faucet. I think we looked at every single sink in the city - she was VERY determined that it be a double sink. She is a great cook and she just knew it HAD to be double!

    Then one day she called me and said, "You don't know how hard this is for me to say, but I think I want your sink." As a mother, I knew far better than to say "I told you so" - I just said I was glad she had made a decision with which she was happy.

    So, she ordered her big, single, Corian integrated sink (she was quite happy to copy my Corian Glacier White countertops - she said they were like a great white blouse, and she's right!). After it had been installed for about a week, she called and said she couldn't imagine why she was so convinced that she had to have a double sink. She said that if there were dishes in the sink (there always are at her house - DH and DS's are untrainable), she just pushes them to the side. She loves how her cookie sheets and large roasting pan fit so well.

    She has never looked back...

    mina279 thanked Anglophilia
  • 8 years ago

    I looked at the Hawthorn because I was used to a two bowl sink. I ended up with the Whitehaven single bowl. I considered the smart divide Whitehaven, but the smaller sink was on the wrong side for my kitchen and it can't be flipped - (maybe it can, but I don't think so). I do have a dish drainer (much to the despair of Jan) for recyclables that sits in my sink on the left hand side - sort of turns it into a two bowl sink when needed. Others use a plastic tub for washing - turning the sink into a two bowl sink.

    I did think the Hawthorn was pretty - but it was a lot more money than the Whitehaven, which was already stretching my budget. I like my Whitehaven so much - maybe the best part of my kitchen refresh.

    mina279 thanked jhmarie
  • 8 years ago

    I have a single Blanco sink and LOVE it! I've always had double sinks and hated them. I can put anything in that sink. I call it "my big a-- sink"! Hope I didn't offend anyone....

    mina279 thanked williann
  • PRO
    8 years ago
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    @ Kitchen Place

    Converting an engineer to a single bowl is worthy of the Hallejula chorus or at least some major hugs lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXh7JR9oKVE

    mina279 thanked JAN MOYER
  • 8 years ago

    There’s nothing like a nice big single bowl sink for bathing babies. So much easier on the back (:

    mina279 thanked Love stone homes
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Allow me to agree with Jan and Sophie, please. I'm soon changing out a Corian 70/30 for a 50/50; first time ever.

    mina279 thanked Joseph Corlett, LLC
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    "Or it is for separating disposal function"

    The funny thing is that with a double-bowl sink, whichever side you placed the disposal, you'll wish it was on the other side. Also, the side without the disposal will necessitate always dumping its strainer's slimy contents into the side that has the disposal. Better just to have one bowl, and one drain with a disposal.

    "I prefer double bowl as I rinse the dirty dishes in 1 bowl and put them in the second bowl. Once done, I load them into the dishwasher."

    You should not rinse dishes before putting them in the DW. You should just scrape. It sounds like you are getting them practically clean, so why use the DW at that point.

    mina279 thanked friedajune
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks everyone, very helpful!


  • 8 years ago

    From a lifelong double bowl owner. (35 years)

    I am currently researching for a kitchen reno. As far as my sink goes, I will still get a double bowl. I do hand wash. It is not for the birds (although my Dawn is ;)), it is for knives, which should never go in the DW and Sophie should know this. It is also for delicate items, items too large to fit, items that can't fit on the top rack and would melt on the bottom, etc., etc. DW are Very hard on stuff. So, in my new kitchen, I will again get a double bowl. However, it will now be a 70/30-60/40. I do like the idea of being able to fit very large items more easily in the sink. And I actually get excited thinking about it lol.

    So there ya go, my 2 pennies. :)

    mina279 thanked beth09
  • PRO
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Dishwater IN the dishwasher should vary only between 120 and 150 degrees. Nothing melts , not even the cheesiest plastic lid. I hand wash almost nothing, but fine if you do, it STILL doesn't need a small bowl. 70/30 and 60/40 are almost worse than 50/50.

    I never realized clean up was so difficult! I have a small galley kitchen, and have had a 21 inch square single bowl under mounted stainless Blanco for forever. I wish it was bigger, but it was chosen to get more counter space.

    There is nothing I can't wash in it. Wine glasses, even good ones go in the top rack of the dw. The entire process, even major holiday clean ups.........15 minutes max.

    So I don't get it: ) My knives are just fine btw.

    mina279 thanked JAN MOYER
  • 8 years ago

    Single or double bowl is a personal choice mina279 and comments are entirely dependent on the users experience/lifestyle/number and age of children etc. I hope the info on enamel vs fireclay was answered and good luck with your project.

    mina279 thanked imhofan
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    DW are Very hard on stuff.

    I agree. Switched back to hand washing the everyday dishes because the dishwasher ruined a good number of pieces which I had to replace. Dishwasher is good for stainless steel pots and pans and flatware though.

    I am tired of the 50/50 cast iron kohler sink because larger items don't fit in it. Will be looking at alternatives for my new build.

    mina279 thanked wishiwereintheup
  • 8 years ago

    Often times when glasses or glass bowls are ruined in the dishwasher (namely, when there is white etching all over that is virtually impossible to remove), it is the cause of too much detergent or too hard of water. When we lived overseas, my Bosch DW (and virtually all European models) needed a good dose of salt every 6 weeks. Despite the built-in softener, my glasses still got ruined as did my friends. In the States it is a bit better as the water is generally softer. If anyone experiences this problem with their glassware, it is wise to check the hardness of their water.

  • 8 years ago

    I rinse and wash my tea mug and strainer every day. I keep a sink full of soapy water to wipe things down. I hand wash my knives and nonstick pans that are not recommended to go into the DW.

    However, my current sink set up is 2 18x18 single sinks placed side by side so I have not felt limited by something too small.

  • 8 years ago

    Count me in the double bowl. And yes because I hand wash. Not dishes, but knives, pots and pans, and plastic stuff because it never dries in the dries in the dishwasher. I do not use the second bowl as a drain area, so it's never messy. Get what you want and what matches your life style.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    There is not one thing I own, other than my grandmother’s cast iron, that cannot go into a DW. Why own something that owns you? I don’t do hand wash only garments either. There is only so much time in a day, and I will never include hand washing as an important enough task that it deserves a place in the calendar.

    Those of you who accept the tyranny of things ruling your behavior rather than choosing things to serve you may have more time. Or like hand washing. That, I cannot fathom at all.

  • 8 years ago

    Check out drying mats. We do A LOT of cooking, canning, and most recently started baking. We use a drying mat many times a week. There is no way we could always DW everything because 1) the quick turn around needed for some items 2) a few large bowls and pots would take up the whole DW, 3) when the DW is full and just a few things won't fit at the end of the day and you don't want to wake up to dirty things in the sink.

    We also have nice wooden serving items that can't be DW.

  • 8 years ago

    I have had 2 Kohler cast iron sinks that work fine. Easy to clean. I use the steel racks that sit on the bottom of the basin to keep pots from scratching it. Scratches are easy to remove with some baking soda or Bar Keepers Friend. :) HTH.

  • 8 years ago

    Look, it's a choice. I have very expensive Japanese knives that don't go in the dishwasher. My choice. Don't deride someone because she wants a double bowl. Her choice.

  • 8 years ago

    Sophie said: There is only so much time in a day, and I will never include hand washing as an important enough task that it deserves a place in the calendar.

    And that's why God made chocolate AND vanilla ice cream. Isn't it beautiful the choices we have in life?

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    70/30 and 60/40 are almost worse than 50/50.

    I dunno... After only having 50/50 my whole life (all 36 years of it, lol), I'm quite impressed by my experimental* 70/30. :-D

    The disposal is in the smaller section (kind of a pain), but the smaller section is closer to the stove, so it's not too bad. My colander perfectly spans the small section, so when I'm draining pasta, nothing touches the bottom of the sink. Which is really nice. I hand wash very few things, but I don't fill the sink up to do it (soapy sponge and slowly running water do the trick for me).

    All of that said, my dreams are filled with copper single basin sinks, so that I only have one disposal and one drain to clean. :-)

    [*experimental -- trying it out in the tract house we just had built, because I wanted to convince the husband that there's more to life than 50/50, and the builder wanted far too much for the single basin upgrade; the ultimate goal is to do single basin in the custom house.]

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