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white or stainless kitchen sink on perimeter of kitchen?

8 years ago

what's your preference with Imperial Honed Danby marble countertops? Too late to do the farm sink but I need suggestions for white undermount. I have the option of using TheGalley workstation #3 but it may be too industrial looking? Appliances are stainless, polished nickel pulls/knobs/light fixtures and BM white dove cabinets. Am also looking at pull down "traditional" looking faucets. any tips are appreciated!

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  • PRO
    8 years ago

    You may install a farm sink into a regular cabinet, if that was your concern. I'm doing one today.

  • 8 years ago

    @JosephCorlett, LLC thanks - would you mind sharing the brand so I can look up specs? I have a regular 36" opening but can't accommodate for the apron front - I guess that's what I meant to say.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I always go stainless for sinks in kitchens apron front or not . IMO still the best material for ease of care and life span.

  • 8 years ago

    @PatriciaColwellConsulting. thank you. I've never owned a stainless and that's why I'm wavering. Any suggestions re traditional pull down faucets?

  • 8 years ago

    I vote for Galley Workstation everytime, althoug I always say4 feet+ with two faucets. You can use the accessories to get more workspace, which I think it great. Either white or stainless, I think farmhouse tends to go a little more cottage/casual where as marble is a little more classic/formal- just my two cents. I think an undermount will look great. I'd probably go stainless, as different whites can clash.


    To keep it looking clean, scrub it down and white it dry-ish, then use a magic eraser or other melamine sponge over the barely-damp sink with the grain. Literally as easy as wiping the sink.

  • 8 years ago
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    Kohler whitehaven with short apron will fit a regular cabinet if farm sink is what you really want.

  • 8 years ago

    thx for advice @DrB477. Unfortunately, specs say re Whitehaven requires the following so cannot use:

    IMPORTANT! The distance from the top edge of
    the cabinet to the top of the cabinet door must be
    at least 9" (229 mm) to install this sink

  • 8 years ago

    @leslieap10. Do you think it's silly to use the galley workstation for the 3' version vs. a regular undermount Blanco sink because that's all the room I have?! I've seen the larger one installed but not the smaller. I think some people use this size actually as a "prep" sink that are lucky enough to have another larger one to serve from.

  • 8 years ago

    There are two whitehaven versions available in each width. There is a tall 9" apron which is intended for a farm base cabinet and the SHORT 7" apron which is intended to fit standard sink cabinets. I think the specs you are referring to are for the tall apron.

    hartntex thanked DrB477
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    hartntex - did you look up the specs to the "short apron" Whitehaven or the "tall apron" Whitehaven? It comes in 2 lengths. I have the short apron and the apron measures 7 inches. The distance to my door is 8" - there is a good inch between the bottom of my apron and the top of the door. My doors are not full overlay though.

  • PRO
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    "

    @JosephCorlett, LLC thanks - would you mind sharing the brand so I can look up specs? I have a regular 36" opening but can't accommodate for the apron front - I guess that's what I meant to say."

    Any of the Kohlers will work. Here's the one I did today:

    Stainless scratches easily, but like solid surface, it's easily refinished.

    hartntex thanked Joseph Corlett, LLC
  • 8 years ago

    @jhmarie I noticed that the drain is on the right side. Does it matter whether or not my dw is on the left with this sink?

  • 8 years ago

    I'm not sure as my dishwasher is on the right and I do tend to use the right side of the sink because my earlier sink was a two bowl. There is a "smart" divide model which has a low unequal divide maybe 30 /70. That one would have two drains. I might have gotten the divided but the larger part is on the wrong side for my right sided dishwasher. The low divide is supposed to allow for the cleaning of larger pans. My neighbor has a low divide of a different sink and likes it. The 36 inch is so big that even divided, the larger side seems quite large.

    If I ever do a kitchen from scratch and the dishwasher is on the left, I would seriously consider the low divided. Then I could use the smaller side to let the few things I hand wash drip dry there. I do have the racks for the bottom of the sink. The one bowl sink has two racks and I like how they protect the bottom and make it a little higher - this is a deep sink. In the divided, the smaller side with a grid could work as a dish drainer.

    I pulled this off google images:


  • PRO
    8 years ago

    The Kohler I pictured above is a low divide.

  • 8 years ago
    @josephcorlett
    Thx for your advice re sinks. In your opinion should drain hole always be installed on same side as d/w?
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I don't see what difference it makes; whatever you prefer.

  • 8 years ago

    I have dishwashers on both sides of my whitehaven sink with a right sided drain. I don't think it matters.

  • 8 years ago
    @josephcorlett. Overall length of whitehaven double is 35-1/2 and my box is only 36”. I think this is too long.
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    It's meant to go in a 36" cabinet. It looks good like this with frameless or full overlay. If you have partial overlay or inset you'd probably be better of with 3" less.

    This is a 33" in 33" cabinet with a dishwasher on each side.

  • 8 years ago

    My 36inch cabinet holds my 35 1/2 Whitehaven just fine:) The sink has to cover some of the face framing of the cabinet since it is a self facing apron. I don't know if a 33" would cover the framing - Joseph might know.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    To put a short apron sink in a standard sink base cabinet that's supposed to have a top-mount our undermount sink you have to cut into the cabinet itself. The cabinet may hold up fine but remember, if you cut into the structure of a cabinet, you are likely to void the warranty on that cabinet. If the cabs are newly installed, think about it. If they're your existing cabinets that have been in place for years, then the warranty probably has expired.

    And if anyone wants apron sink in their new kitchen, plan ahead and get the right cabinet.

  • 8 years ago

    The Whitehaven "short apron" is made to go on a standard cabinet base. The sink is not the same as a fireclay "butler" type sink though it gives the same look. The apron slides over the side frames. If a cabinet can not hold up to the modest alterations needed for the sink, it wasn't much of a cabinet to start with:)

  • 8 years ago
    @jhmarie can you provide model no for correct whitehaven please? Do you think it will slide over the front here?
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    jhmarie, I have seen a lot of folks alter their cabinets after they're installed because of something they want. From what I understand, you have to cut the top rail of the cabinet out to put in the Whitehaven. Am I correct? It's also important to remember that an apron sink needs to be properly supported from underneath, since one gallon of water weights about 8 pounds. I encourage everyone who wants to do this to examine what's in place, what they have to do to alter it and whether it will hold up.

    I have had people come into the showroom and complain about the performance of a cabinet after they'd cut into it and modified it in some way. In the social media age, they're a lose-lose problem. Either the business pays out in money and time to fix a problem they didn't cause or they get ripped on social media because someone didn't get what they thought they deserved. I guess I'm saying: If you want to do this, fine. If there's a problem, then you own it.

    BTW, cutting holes for outlets and plumbing isn't included in my statements about voiding the warranty. Those are fine for most cabinet manufacturers.

  • 8 years ago

    The directions for installing the Whitehaven include reinforcing the cabinet. I did an internet search and could find no complaint about cabinet failure with the short apron Whitehaven. The only poor reviews were those where the sink arrived damaged.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Are these new cabinets?

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    The only thing that has to be cut to install the short apron Whitehaven is the corner angle braces. Those have to be cut sometimes for a large undermount anyway. A short Whitehaven is not a big deal to install. Especially if you use a HUSH mounting harness.

  • PRO
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    DrB477 is correct, a 35 1/2" sink goes in a 36" cabinet as did the one I pictured above.

    As to cabinet alterations, I have to bash the front corner blocks out and remove the top rail to accommodate the sink. The corner blocks help keep a cabinet square during shipping, but do little afterward. The cabinet front must be tapped off; you can't get the sink in the cabinet otherwise. Pictures 9 & 10.

  • 8 years ago
    Need a final suggestion. I cannot return bridge faucet because of restock fee. Would you do with stainless under mount or white sink?
  • 8 years ago

    Have you decided against the farm house sink?

    I feel somewhat that a white cast iron sink might work better with a bridge faucet. However, if the decor is generally farmhouse or vintage either will work.

  • 5 years ago

    May I ask what you decided with the sink. I am also on the fence with a stainless steel or white cast iron undermount with my Danby marble. Pics? Thanks.