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I am so confused! Need some advice...

7 years ago

I recently set up a makeshift hoop type house..picture below. I have rooted roses that I want to protect. My initial thoughts were to cover and protect from frost, let the plants go dormant, but now I have just lost my mind! I no longer know what I am trying to achieve..lol I have many well rooted, but small roses. I have them in a 5 x 10 frame with a 16ft x 50 inch cattle panel hooped over it. I have been reading about frost protection and now I don't know what to do. Am I building this to let the plants go dormant with just some protection or is this becoming something that will cause the plants to continue growth? UGH! I am going to cover the top with 6 mil plastic with a frost cloth tented under that. I live in South Ga so we don't have too many days below freezing usually, but sometimes it gets in the 20s. Do I need to have some type of heat for days below freezing? Lights? We can start the day freezing, but be in the 60s or higher after lunch. It is no problem for me to remove the cover anytime. Should I cover with a dark tarp to help with dormancy or do I use the clear plastic to let the sunshine in. I had a greenhouse at my last home and just used a couple of lights to keep it warm, but I have just totally confused myself with this. Some of my plants are cutting that took this year, so small root system. Do they need to have more heat? Help!

Note: The 6ft tall wood privacy fence comes around and runs in front of the hoop. To the left in this picture. The hoop is running north to south. Full sun all day except for a few hours during mid day (trees shade the sun) the side with the plastic panel is the west side.

Comments (10)

  • 7 years ago

    It’s good that you are contemplating how to handle this problem. There are unwanted side effects of using unvented plastic film and even if you do everything right the plants may be more susceptible to cold injury when they are abruptly subjected to cold when the film is removed.

    I wouldn’t use a tarp either. My recommendation would be to use a heavier grade of row cover (Reemay, Agribon, etc). I use Agribon 30 or 50 for vegetable crops and you can purchase it in various sizes. Another commercial product that breaths and is very durable is Typar. With these products you get protection but air exchange is allowed.

  • 7 years ago

    Barrie, thanks for the response! If I got the row cover, how would I use it? Just over the plants and leave the hoop bare? I am able to go home everyday at 10 am and would be able to roll up the sides of the plastic. Our weather is wacky. It can be freezing at night but back up to the 60s and 70s by afternoon. My main concern is just getting them thru the winter.

  • 7 years ago

    Since you have the frame in place I would cover it and just put sand bags, rocks or planks around the perimeter on ground to keep it in place. You just leave it there as opposed to rolling up plastic every morning. It’s great for swinging temperature conditions since it lets excess heat out

    One problem is wind. The row cover will billow and snag on any rough area of the fence causing it to tear. The cover I had over my caged tomatoes was so full of small tears that I will not use it another year. It did extend my fall tomato harvest by a month and paid for itself many times over.

  • 7 years ago

    We have secured the base! The picture i posted was getting it started. I had to put my stuff in there to see how it looked. Barrie, with the row cover, would I also need heat? I have seen post where people used Christmas lights. (I do have some old big bulb outdoor lights.) Would that be needed for extended periods of below freezing? Sorry for all the questions...

  • 7 years ago

    In looking at your photo my biggest caution would be to avoid condensation on the leaves and the resultant growth of fungus and bacteria. I would be tempted to put pine needles , straw, or hay around and between the pots to temper the roots from rapid temperature swings. Beyond that I would not provide any cover unless you get a very bad cold streak.

  • 7 years ago

    Barrie and roseguy, wanted to update you. I am using the plastic because with our weather, my plants are still growing. We have had freezing nights, but the day heats up to 65. I come home every day at 10 am and roll the sides up. I used bungee cords to hold the plastic on so it doesn't take but a few minutes. So far, so good. I am actually pinching blooms off. 10 seems to be the perfect time, that is when the sun starts shingles on the top of the house. The house has full sun until around 2, then blocked by trees for an hour, then back to full. I go out and roll down the plastic when I get home at 5:30. (Starts getting dark) I get a good breeze, but the house is protected on the north, by my house, then on the east and south by a 6ft. Privacy fence. I will probably leave it vented around the clock for the next week, Temps low at 50 and high thru the 70s.

  • 7 years ago

    I am happy to hear that you have a system that is working well. Unless you get a very hard freeze I wouldn't be surprised if your plants stay green all winter. Thank you for your update.

  • 7 years ago


    The bungee cords make it so easy to roll up! Just lift the cord, roll and snap back in place.

  • 7 years ago

    Very happy roses. You certainly have this mastered.

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