Thanks for your quick reply. I am redoing my kitchen and trying to decide what kind of recessed lights to us. Old kitchen has the typical builder 6” cans, which I do not like. Island will have two large pendants over and I think I need recessed in front of cabinets also. I think 4” LED but have no idea what type of trim package would is best - baffle, reflector, adjustable, etc. I am trying to research it because neither the builder or electrician are much help. They like a Lithonia 13w ultra thin LED downlight but I am not sure I do. . Any advice you can give would be greatly appreciated because I am lost!