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Big outdoor Ceramic Water Fountain Urn and freezing temperatures

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

Please help!! Does anyone have any experience with big Pottery water fountain urns and our freezing temps in South Mississippi?? We’ve had this fountain for 7 years now and it’s gone through the last snow/sleet we had before with no problem, but it’s never frozen up like this. Our pump is still running...




I’m so scared the whole thing will burst if it goes through another night of freezing temps! Should we try to melt the ice on top with hot water and try to see if we can break it up? We can’t tell if it’s frozen all the way through...our fish pond in backyard is not frozen through because the fish are swimming around under the ice! Any suggestions would be most appreciated!!

Comments (19)

  • 8 years ago

    Would anti-freeze kill the pump? What about an immersible heater for cups of water (surely with such a large amount it wouldn't get warm enough to damage)

    Sorry I'm not more help.


  • PRO
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I'm familiar w/koi ponds. i have to ask, do you have a hole in the ice for your fish? do you have a O2 pump for them? (if no to the hole, never strike the ice to break it,,,it will kill the fish. you can pour hot water on it or a pot of hot water to make a hole)

    No to car anti freeze! if an animal should drink it, it's toxic.

    Terra cotta, ceramic, concrete, and other moisture absorbing materials are prone to cracking when the temperature dips.This happens when water, absorbed into the pot, turns to ice below freezing temperatures. Ceramics that have been fired at high temperatures, however, usually don’t suffer from this, so if you have finely crafted (or DIY!) pots, you should be okay.


    https://www.serenityhealth.com/tips-and-advice/winterizing-fountains.html

    alcohol for anti freeze:

    https://www.quora.com/How-much-alcohol-would-I-need-to-add-to-my-water-fountain-to-keep-it-from-freezing-in-Seattle-this-winter

  • 8 years ago

    I suggest that you unplug the pump before it burns out.

    Then to keep the fountain thawed, how about a bird bath heater?

  • 8 years ago

    I second unplugging the fountain and using a bird bath heater.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Pouring antifreeze anywhere where a cat or other animal can get it is BAD I would also agree a bird bath heater might do the trick and hopefully this is just a weather blip and will soon warm up.

  • 8 years ago

    I must have missed where the op has a cat...

  • 8 years ago

    Re antifreeze, there is a commercially available non toxic antifreeze, safe for drinking water. The one I am using this winter is called Peak RV Antifreeze. It is not the same as the antifreeze used in an engine.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Sorry Satt, not sure what you mean...Patricia mentioned a cat and I didn't see where the op said she has anything other than koi...which she doesn't keep in her fountain.

    Or are you referring to something else?

    I will add though to not unplug...it's best to keep the water moving.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I don't have an answer for the fountain, but the pond - If the ice stays for more than a couple of days, you should open up a hole in the ice so the fish can breathe. Best way to do it is to place a pan full of boiling water on the ice to melt it. Don't pour the water on the ice, let the hot pan do the job. Even though they are still swimming, all their carbon monoxide is being trapped under the ice and will eventually kill them. The hole should be as big as the biggest fish.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Right, auntthelma. I didn't answer where there was no question asked. :)

    The question was about the fountain.

  • 8 years ago

    If the pump can't move water because it's frozen, it will burn out soon. I've seen it happen.

  • 8 years ago

    Now back to the question at hand: First of all, turn off or unplug your pump. There's nothing you can do at this point for the urn at this point, except hope. I had a pottery urn I turned into a fountain and sadly, when it froze, it cracked. Hopefully, yours won't. In the future, when you winterize your yard (and whoever thought THAT would be necessary in MS?!?), simply empty the urn and turn it over and store the pump in your shed. Koi always seem to do pretty well.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    coopermcboo,,,just curious if you have koi?

  • 8 years ago

    Pumps are great for moving water and delaying a water feature from freezing but if it get's cold enough- as mentioned the pump will fail. Best to get a pond de-icer or birdbath heater to prevent the surface from freezing solid and damaging our urn by the expansion of the ice.

  • 8 years ago

    Beth H: I don't have koi personally, but a neighbor does. As long as they have room in the bottom of the pond, they go kind of dormant during the winter. Pretty amazing, actually. Plus, I think she has a ventilation hole she keeps clear.


  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    They sell cattle trough heaters at farm and feed stores like Atwoods, Tractor Supply etc, that is what I use in my fish pond. They are not expensive at all and work great. On extremely cold days my fish are huddled up under the heater....just fyi for those of you with fish ponds

  • 8 years ago

    Tthose trough heaters work, but they can use a LOT of electricity. Obviously they're useful for a fish pond, which I guess is what you're referring to, but they're a nuclear flyswatter for a little fountain like this.

    Around 15-20 years ago, we used to keep pond goldfish (we're way too cheap to buy koi :). We didn't do anything in the winter, though we probably should have. I'd estimate that we lost 1/4 to 1/3 of the fish each winter, but they seemed to make up for it over the summer. :)

    I can't find it now, too much other cruft on the web these days, but back then I found a web page describing a neat passive device for keeping pond fish alive through the winter. IIRC it involved a PVC pipe, maybe with another larger pipe around it for insulation, suspended in the water. The pipe had a J bend at the top to keep the snow out. Supposedly it kept air going in all through the winter, with no air compressor or anything of the sort. I never got around to trying it, though.

  • 8 years ago
    As another said, all you an do is hope and pray. I had one when I lived in the south that cracked when we had a freak arctic blast. The best thing you can do if it survives and you have another freak arctic blast is to drain the fixture of all water and cover it before you have another hard freeze.