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Euphorbia trigona origin

8 years ago

Can someone point me to something scientific concerning the origin of euphorbia "trigona". Ive read its a hybrid and that it never blooms. Ive been wondering about it for a while now....

Im talking parent plants and whatnot.

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  • 8 years ago

    I am not sure there is anything scientific but you can check google scholar. I like this website for good info and they have references if you are so inclined to research

    http://www.llifle.com/Encyclopedia/SUCCULENTS/Family/Euphorbiaceae/32500/Euphorbia_trigona_cv._Royal_Red

    says they don't flower and is only known in cultivation so most likely a hybrid.

    Stefan thanked Gabby C (FL 9A)
  • 8 years ago

    ....that was my source..... i was hoping for something different.

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks Stefan for now peaking my interest. Great question. Hope some one comes up with your answer. By looks alone, my guess is with E. latea. Nothing scientific there. If it was a 'sport', I believe it would still produce flowers and seeds? I really haven't noticed flowers on my E. latea as well.

    Stefan thanked Stush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6
  • 8 years ago

    Ive seen pictures of lactea. Mostly wild shrubs, and they make seed pods too. But it takes an effort to spot them.

  • 8 years ago

    Sorry for the miss spelling. Thanks Stefan.

    Stefan thanked Stush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6
  • 8 years ago

    I dont really care. If remembered every correct species spelling, id be a phd by now.....

  • 8 years ago

    "It takes an effort to spot them". Maybe they don't bloom easily in cultivation and if they do, not easy to spot. Rubra maybe a cultivar and E trigona clones that bloom rarely (or not) may have been selected recently for commercial propagation, which are the plant we enjoy today. But E trigona seems to have been around for a while. There is a E trigonum with matching description listed in Miller's "The Gardeners Dictionary" published in the 1700's!! Maybe not the same plant, but many searches link to this reference. Still a possible hybrid but resulting from natural crosspollinization a long time ago.... Could explain why little to no info can be found on this. I only found a couple scientific publications available for a fee (~$15) with possible info on their genetic make up. Sorry, did not purchase them but the answer might be in those.

    Stefan thanked Alain (Pacifica, CA;10a)
  • 8 years ago

    This the sort of info I am looking for as reading material histories of the Cactaceae, Haworthia, Adromischus and the rest of the Succulents.


    Stefan thanked Rob Blomquist
  • 8 years ago

    Could also be...they want a humid atmosphere. Mine have leafed out..but very small. I've seen some Tree Euphorbs in warm greenhouses with large leafs..nothing like the puny leaves even my tree Euphorbias 15' make outdoors in real sun. They do bloom though. And fruit and set seed.

    Never a trigona.

    Stefan thanked stanofh 10a Hayward,Ca S.F. bay area
  • 8 years ago

    To the point of not blooming in cultivation, here is a site confirming this and with a pic of E trigona bloom.

    "...The plant’s flowers are white or a combination of white and light yellow. The flowers appear on spring and summer, but potted versions of the plant may not grow flowers at all...".

    According to https://worldofsucculents.com/euphorbia-trigona-african-milk-tree-high-chaparall/

  • 8 years ago

    Hard to say since they dont show the whole plant. I Googled,and that is the only photo of one purporting to be the bloom. On the other hand, a few more technical sites describe its bloom pretty much as the photo shows.

    As summer goes by I will keep it in mind since the one I have is over 5' and about 17 years old. All outdoors in pots. Funny thing is ..one i had planted in ground had done well until 1998's 28f..killed it. This particular plant I bought a year or two later, has seen 30f and quite a few 32's over that time. Only the occasional nipped tips so far.

    Stefan thanked stanofh 10a Hayward,Ca S.F. bay area
  • 8 years ago

    Ive heard on other forum, there have been 2 recorded sightings of flowers , ever.

  • 8 years ago

    Trigona always looks to me just like E. pseudocactus

    Stefan thanked SpanishFly - (Mediterranean)
  • 8 years ago

    They bear some similarities with some cultivars, true....but pseduocactus has more variability(undulation/segmentation , multiple ribs, height....)

    http://www.llifle.com/Encyclopedia/SUCCULENTS/Family/Euphorbiaceae/27017/Euphorbia_pseudocactus_subs._lyttoniana

    https://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/58032/

    Some sources even claim pseudocactus is a hybrid too.....

  • 8 years ago

    Wow, those pictures of pseudocactus looks so much nicer than mine.

    I beheaded the top of one above to keep in size for window and planted below.

    May have to do it again and let it bush out some. Do you know if they grow a caudex or fat roots?

    Similar to E. buruana and they grow caudex.

    I'll make a new post and plants for postage.

    Thanks all for all the information. Enjoying this post.

  • 8 years ago

    This site is not working right. Tried to post and can't. Not letting me move around as well.

    Shutting down for today, try tomorrow.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    On my email and not showing up here??

    "Stefan said:

    Stush, think its a grandicornis instead.
    Might i ask, howd you germinate euphorbia?"

    Answer; Stefan, I think your right. I purchased it from Bob Smoley a few years ago. I did purchase grandicornis but it rotted before being able to root. Bob told me to plant in pure perlite and not water for months. Which I have a hard time doing. Started to and was successful finally.

    I don't plant seeds of euphorbia. I do get some volunteers at times but they just come up on their own. 'Bikerdoc' is very good at seeds and from his own stock. One of the best men on this site. Very helpful and knowable.