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Need help/input for updating honey oak country kitchen!

Hi! First time poster, please go easy on me! ;D


I have a rental property that is in need of updating those classic honey oak cabinets. There is honey oak wood flooring and white laminate counters with a honey oak trim piece all the way around. This was a very cute country kitchen, but definitely dated. We steamed off all of the chicken wall paper and initially painted it this awesome blue color, which down played the blue back splash tile work and in my opinion modernized the place a bit. The cabinets are still what they are though, and to be fair hubby never liked the blue (or any other of my colors - ha ha)


ANYWAY, as it is a rental, there is currently some pretty severe damage to the current hardwood floors and so we are looking at overhauling this area for an updated look, because we have to refinish anyway and possibly replace the floors in general due to the amount of damage. I think it will be hard to match or lace in to this area easily, because the planks are 3.5", which it turns out is a bit odd.


Due to the carpets also being severely damaged, we are looking at replacing all of the flooring in this home with a laminate or vinyl plank material everywhere except the bathrooms. I just feel the current honey on honey on honey is a bit much and am looking to bounce some ideas on how to freshen it up, without spending tooooooo much money! I feel like the flooring is a huge deal and I need to have some contrast from there. That is mainly where painting the cabinets came from. Due to the snow, I don't want anything too dark. Dark floors show everything!


It really is a nice size, with good bones. There is a bread roller and a pantry around the corner with a lovely white wood door. I do love some of the trim work and mouldings. I am excited for the potential here.


The house/walls will be painted (double) Aspen White with a bright white for the trim and doors, so pretty neutral to give it a generic tenant friendly lift. It will be sad to see this blue go, alas, I want to appeal to more renters going forward.


I have been googling and looking at refinishing the cabinets in white, with an excessive amount of poly coats at the end to try and maintain the job as long as possible. I also think white really neutralizes the curved arches of the cabinet doors, from looking at other posts. I am hesitant to paint the cabinets due to time and finish OCD, let alone the sadness of how hard some tenants are on homes.


I kind of don't want to go down this rabbit hole, but also want to appeal to more tenants going forward and stop this home from being the neighborhood eyesore.


At any rate, this is a bi level home, so really an open floor plan (ish - there is a wall behind the fridge wall, and the living room/stairs/hall to bedrooms is behind that) with an eat in kitchen.


Sorry for the long post. Summary of current thoughts:


- Change out flooring, possibly to a different color, do not want to be too trendy though. (color samples attached). This will be going through the entire house I believe. (we are in Colorado, tile is not really an option except in bathrooms, and I am over replacing soiled carpets)

- Remove window valance and any drapery type coverings

- Remove wood valance over window?

- Change and/or spray the pulls

- Possibly update the cabinets to a white

- Possibly refinish the counters and tile backsplash (to get rid of the blue mainly is the thought), miracle method style (which has held up wonderfully in my bathroom, knock wood) or maybe knock out the tile and replace with something classic but fresh.

- Not too keen to change appliances, but a dog attacked the dishwasher, so that might turn into a whole thing. Which sucks, because drop in stoves are hard to find ? Might be able to just cut into the frame of the lower cabinet for a regular stove though, if I go this route??

- The light. I'm not sure about that. It works well though. There is also lighting under the wood window valance. Considered pendant lights instead - but there is a beautiful view of the park from this window, so unsure.

- Keep all of the wainscoting, it is beautiful and in good shape.


Baaaaasically, a total gut job, potentially. I would love any design thoughts or ideas on this though, especially if they save costs, but also if you feel this is a good/terrible idea, or have alternative suggestions. I'm a little alone on the decision making part of this and love to bounce ideas.


Thank you for any thoughts! I am excited to hear from this seemingly awesome community.






Comments (14)

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Thank you jhmarie - we do have under cabinet lighting! I am hesitant to remove a microwave completely, people still seem to notice it when one is missing?

    The current back splash is real tile, yes. And I am definitely veering away from grey tones.


  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Also - I am not adverse to keeping the hardwood floors entirely, but they do seem to need more frequent refinishing with tenants.

  • 6 years ago

    Put a microwave on the counter

  • 6 years ago

    I find over the range microwaves difficult because I am short:) They also do not vent as well - but sometimes there isn't any vent anyway. I would place a small micro on the counter - either in the corner or if there is a counter by the fridge, then by the fridge.

    I also have a "wood kitchens" idea book and it includes some refreshed older kitchens - might find some inspiration there.

    Where you live may impact what you spend you money on. In my area an older wood kitchen would not detract renters as long as it is clean and functions well and not downright ugly. The kitchen does have a good layout.

    Lee-Anne Strickoff - SE Metro Realtor thanked jhmarie
  • 6 years ago

    frankly, as a renter-I'd be thrilled to have this kitchen, honey oak or not. And yes it's easier to maintain than paint.

    I understand your concern about contrast, but it actually looks fine together. The flooring. Maybe a shade lighter? I wouldn't deviate too much.

    The wood valance is cute, and tile is within the character of the kitchen..and the dining..and I suppose the house.

    Don't see the reason to change or/and spay pulls either unless it's something that you enjoy.

    I'd change the overhead light unless it's a big hassle.

    I'm not a blue walls kinda person yet I like yours. Pretty versatile. If you worry repaint ..but you'll need to look for that perfect color. White of some kind is obvious choice..but you'll loose the contrast with your wainscoting..something to consider..

    I think that you'd be thrilled to have me as a renter too, to sum up things lol

    and you just made my day with "seemingly awesome community"! aaaa!!

    Lee-Anne Strickoff - SE Metro Realtor thanked aprilneverends
  • 6 years ago

    How about staining the wood cabinets darker? https://makeit-loveit.com/how-to-stain-oak-cabinets-vanities This could hold up better than painting and is WAY less work than painting white. Without the honey oak you could do a lighter toned LVP floor. I think the wood edge to the current laminate is a deal breaker. If you put in a new white laminate countertop and white subway tile with dark grey grout (it can be the 12x12 mesh backed kind - quick 1 day project for a pro) it would look to the renter like a new kitchen. Alternately you could stain the edge of the current countertop and use the miracle method paint to make the backsplash a plain white. Get rid of all window treatments, get rid of the wood valance, and put in 4 recessed lights in the kitchen instead of the flourecent, replace the dining nook chandelier with something simple and modern (https://m.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/art/70155036/), same with faucet. Maybe paint the white beadboard a navy blue - which is trendy right now. Add new plain brushed nickel handles with the same center to center measurement - you can buy 10 packs on Amazon for very cheap. Make sure the new peninsula top has room for bar seating - a very popular feature. I’ve circled the floor I like best. Light with some dark, but not too much of a fake grain look.

    Lee-Anne Strickoff - SE Metro Realtor thanked fidlfreek_justice_4_sophie
  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Jhmarie; yes, the kitchen is very functional, and a part of this is almost like therapeutic processing for what to do with this house!Thank you for the heads up about the book. I will have a look for that.

    Aprilneverends; well thank you. I am really trying to not get caught up in fads, but I think the state of the place made me focus on the yellowness of the oak. And the oakiness of the oak everywhere in that part of the house!

    I always really enjoyed this blue, to be honest. ha!! It contrasted nicely and I got to cackle in my husband's direction every time someone told me they loved it, too. That's the thing I guess, you never can tell.

    I am a bit leery of how much the kitchen will change with all of the white and off white in regards to the contrast, and had to kind of giggle at the thought of painting the walls white and the wainscoting blue. Like a role reversal. :D

    Fidlfreek; I appreciate you bringing me back down from the clouds with some of your suggestions. Some of your sentiments I had thought of and was considering - all white miracle method, subway tile, lighting updates. Now is the time to pull that big beast down I think - we are planning to paint the ceilings throughout the home. Curious of your thought process- the lighting fixture you linked from ikea, is that to coordinate with the current colored cabinets? Or the shape in general?

    Staining the cabinets darker is of course an option, I just don't want this area to feel any more boxed in, I guess. This vantage point is actually the only way in and out of the kitchen - there is also peninsula seating already to the left, FYI.

    I actually picked the flooring you circled in the event that I wanted to go lighter or darker with the cabinets, now or later, that there would be flexibility in the flooring color to do so. It's also more of the classic wood look than some of the on trend colors I am seeing out there.

    The more I think about it, the more I would like to NOT spend a lot of time painting everything white, but I definitely think I need some adjustments in here.

    I find it interesting that none of you have mentioned the appliances or their color - apart from the microwave, which is usually the least of the appliance worries. ;D

    I so appreciate your feedback and input.

  • 6 years ago

    I think a lot of this depends on your competition. What do the kitchens in your market at your rental price point look like? If yours is already ahead of the game, then you don’t need to do anything, right? If the competition is new cabinets, granite counters and shiny new stainless appliances, well, then maybe you need to up your game. Do you have trouble getting or keeping tenants? (Not actually asking for answers, just what I would think about.)


    That said, as a general matter, I would not paint the cabinets. It won’t hold up to renters.


    My first choice would be to repair and keep the wood floors. Those are a big attraction for me. I hate carpet so that is a turn off for me (especially in bedrooms because we all have dust mite allergies) but I think this is again mostly a matter of what your competition is.

    I would also tend towards leaving the counters and tile backsplash alone. They look to be very clean and in good condition. While I wouldn’t pick that tile, it isn’t a turn off and it works with what is there.


    I would change the blue paint. I love blue, but not everyone does and it really stands out, which is not necessarily the goal in a rental. I would choose a neutral like one of the neutrals suggested in this blog post to go with oak cabinets.



    http://www.true-design-house.com/blog/2016/3/14/bestpaint-with-honey-oak


    I would go with just enough contrast with the existing white wainscoting to make it look deliberate. Maybe the muslin?


    I would take down the curtain valences and leave the windows bare for the tenant to cover.


    And I honestly would look at replacing the range. Coil electric ranges are the worst. And if I were considering multiple units and had a choice, a coil range could be a deciding no for me.

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    We think repainting all the blue to white will help a lot. We agree with removing the window valance, and we think changing the lighting in the kitchen and dining room will help. Otherwise we don't think too much else is necessary. Someone who is renting will most likely be happy with it. As long as the cabinets are in good shape and the appliances work.

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  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Thanks guys ! We're going up to get the house tonight and will get a better look at the condition of the cabinets etc. I'm hoping their dogs didn't chew them up etc and we can see where things are after painting the walls. Fingers crossed that that is the case and we have no surprises. I will keep you all posted and so appreciate all of your thoughts !

  • 6 years ago
    I would not paint the cabinets if a rental. I would update the counters (even if another laminate color was the only budget). Maybe a laminate that mimicked a granite or another solid stone if the budget permitted. I think once that was done and the blue toned to a neutral color that goes with the cabinets (take down valence etc) it will be better in the long run to not have the maintenance of painted cabinets.
  • 6 years ago
    Sorry, also you can take out the wood prince over the sink. It is decorative and not needed.
  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Hello again!

    So, it turns out there is more damage throughout the home than previously thought. That being said, I have lost a bit of the energy I had to paint cabinets white!

    Fortunately, they are in good condition, barring some good ole elbow grease to clean and condition them.

    I removed the lacey valances and that was huge in and of itself. The wood floor that is there might be a bit hard ti salvage in places, so again we come back to the flooring . In a surprising twist, I am drawn to the darker woods, 2nd from the left of the peninsula in this pic. But I need to go back and have a look while I'm not delousing!


    You can really see how worn the wood is in this pic. Poor baby !

    I also had the resurfacing guy come out and had a look at some counter colors in addition to some stuff for the bathroom:


    In another surprising twist, I find myself a bit sad to cover up the blue tile ! That was the cheapest of all the surface refinishing bids though, so we'll see where things land once I get more bids in. I generally prefer the two colors on the left, though the one on the right is a bit warmer. Worried about the yellow.

    Due to the nature and sheer scope of the work that needs to be done just to be clean and functional again, some of my crazy ideas might be put on the back burner.

    But I am now /currently thinking the more brown toned wood, brown or bronze knobs (the knobs are very worn), and maybe some new appliances (definitely needs a dishwasher) might help spruce things up, along with the neutral paint colors.

    Interesting side note; I learned today a lot of people are moving towards airbnb in lieu of full time rental of a property, due to a desire for less maintenance, more bang for the buck.