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Need Curb Appeal! Driveway Landscaping and very large front rock bed

7 years ago
The front drive as you can see needs a good amount of landscaping. We have some ideas but open to ideas/suggestions.

1st Area of Work: The driveway edging.
So we put in the asphalt drive on top of the old packed gravel drive. The one picture shows the flagstone type border on the edges of the asphalt. I’d like to do this but not sure how as some of the sides are hard from the old drive and we couldn’t pound them into the ground. Maybe we shouldn’t edge it in? Where the asphalt drive meets the front rock bed we took the old bricks out that separated the drive and rock bed and just put the rock up next to it...not sure that I like it.

2nd area of work: the sloped entryway to our drive from the road. Both sides to the driveway entrance have a sloped hill. We plan to rock this all. Someone told me to use medium rock as the small would just wash away...so The second picture shows what size I was thinking of getting. My problem here is I’m not sure how to landscape it. How do I hold the rock in from coming down the front. The plan is to follow the dirt lines up the side so it will narrow off the further we get up the drive and stop on each side just before you get to the camper.

The left side of the drive we have a little garden up there by in front there where the wheelbarrow is I wanted to do the wheelbarrow with the handles sticking up in the air and flowers planted in front of the barrel and then Blount the wagon wheel next to it.

The right side of the drive I want to put the posts with cast iron pot hanging. I want to do red rock lava instead of the mulch and put flowers in the pot rather than underneath. The stumps will be made into little “fairy” homes.

3rd area of work: Front Rock Bed- This area is huge and it just looks a mess to me. To the left you can hardly tell from the photos but there is another area bricked off the rock bed that was there when we moved in. We cleaned it up and put bushes in it and mulched it. We didn’t honk about chickens and the mess they would make with it. Now I have to get all of that mulch up and out of the rock bed. So I don’t know whether to keep this area or just take up the extra bricks, take the plants out (currently have squash in there too lol) and just seed it for grass?)
We are surrounded by trees so there are sticks and leaves in the rockbed non stop and I’m not sure of the best way to up keep this. Any ideas of what I can do with this area to clean it up and make it look less bland? My husband built me that nice wishing well to cover up a partially uprooted tree stump!

I’ll post our yard pics in the comments

Comments (24)

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    We need to see a wide view of the house from the street. We can't make curb appeal suggestions if we can't see the view from the curb :)

  • 7 years ago
    Front, 2 views of left side of drive, 1 view of right side of drive
  • 7 years ago
    Last view on right side of drive, next 3 are of the rockbed
  • 7 years ago
    1st two are pics of the left side of rockbed where extra area is off and last is where the drive and rockbed meet together on the right.
  • 7 years ago

    I would go to your garden center (not a big box) and ask for suggestions for a low spreading evergreen ground cover for those slopes. I'd put some edging around those areas and fill them up with the suggested plant.


    Are you open to limbing up the trees? The branches are low and they make the area around the house look dark and cluttered. Some people like the privacy of low limbs, it depends on your preferences.

  • 7 years ago
    Yes! We do plan on trimming the trees up. We just havent gotten to that point quite yet. We’ve been here a bit over a year and I’m not exaggerating when I say we have cut a few hundred trees down. I do like the ground covering ideas and it certainly would be cheaper.
    I am not more concerned with adding decor items, more just sharing my thoughts for the final. But I do agree there needs to be an order of prioritization. I don’t think we’d be able to dig trenches easily ourselves as some of the areas have built up gravel and would probably need to be busted up somehow. So sounds like a flat rock border is not an option
    I actually don’t mind ivy at all. I love the look of it and don’t find it cumbersome to maintain. I have no idea what type of ivy I have though. I’m sure I could bring it into a coworker that would be able to tel me though.

    Thank you for the input and advice, picture is very helpful!
  • 7 years ago

    DO NOT PLANT IVY. It spreads easily six feet a year and loves to climb trees. Not good for your application.

  • 7 years ago

    Leave the rocks alongside the driveway but outline the driveway beside them with a plant that grows well in your planting zone. Liriope grows well in Zone 7.


    You have a lot of area that appears to be covered in gravel. Would limit that "ground cover" to the one area.


    See if you can find a shade tolerant grass or ground cover or even moss for other areas too shady for most grasses. You might see if red fescue would grow well in your area.


    Where you have encircled lawn decorations with stone, consider burying all but the top of the stone to make it easier to mow around.

  • 7 years ago
    I’m concerned with ground coverage instead of rock because of the hill eroding. When it rains it tends to run down a lot.
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    "DO NOT PLANT IVY. It spreads easily six feet a year and loves to climb trees. Not good for your application." 1 down. 29 to go. 6' is a 2X exaggeration. From the distant pictures it looks like English ivy. If it's already there, it seems silly to say don't plant it. To say don't use it when it would be the easiest, cheapest, hardest working problem-solving plant also seems a bit of a disconnect with the concept of solving problems, of which how-to-cover-lots-of-ground-in-shade is going to be the big one.

  • 7 years ago
    Thanks oh Yardvaark! I laughed when I saw the first DO NOT plant comment as well. My husband and I both really liked the look of the ivy and the grass. Would the ivy, if covering the slopes help with the hill eroding when it rains? I’m sorry if that’s a silly question. I have like 1% knowledge on this topic!
    Also...I assumed the darker green in your layout was the ivy correct?
  • 7 years ago
    Maybe We could do a lower edge of larger rocks with ground covering on top like this if we needed a barrier to keep the dirt washing on the drive? I love this ground covering but unsure what it is.
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    In my drawing, the darker green represents a groundcover, though not specifically English ivy, since I don't know if you live where it is a reliable groundcover. I only note that there appears what looks like it in at least one of your pictures and my answer recommending it is predicated on the fact of it already existing. It, along with many groundcovers, would definitely work to stop or limit erosion in shady areas. But when it comes to covering large areas of shade, there are not all that many groundcovers that are superior to it after all factors are considered.

    In your picture, above, seems to be Pachysandra terminalis, another good shade groundcover. I don't know if it would be considered as good as English ivy for extensive areas of shade. (I've seen and managed acres of ivy, but have neither seen nor managed acres of Pachysandra. Someone else here might have experience with that amount though.)

    As far as using an edge of rocks with English ivy, it would be pointless. The ivy would cover the rocks in effect negating their use. The rocks would not add to the erosion control effect beyond what the ivy could already provide on its own.

  • 7 years ago
    This is great information and very helpful! Thank you! It looks like I am in zone 6a (st. Louis, MO) This is a game changer and will definitely save us some money.
  • 7 years ago
    Are there good free landscaping sites/apps to do scapes on like people do on here? I’m hinting that may help me with my rock bed because I’m a very visual person. Thanks!
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    There are some inexpensive landscape apps but I don't know anything about them. I'd think that they come with lots of limitations. In some cases, they may present too steep a learning curve so as to make it not worth it for a single property. There are some apps that are good but get into more money and more learning. There is a free version of Sketchup -- 3-D modeling -- but it has the learning curve. A lot of people know it so it can't be impossible and there are tutorial videos for it on Youtube.

    For me, the easiest way to visualize a landscape change is to take a picture of the area and draw over it using Microsoft Paint. It only takes basic perspective drawing skills and then becoming familiar with the drawing tools (which are well explained in the "Help" section.) However, it requires a touchscreen computer and stylus in order to use the app well. If one only has mouse or trackpad, they will only be able to use a few of the tools and produce crude drawings. I worked on a simple landscape picture once when I couldn't find my stylus and it took FOREVER!!!


  • 7 years ago
    Would it look odd to put a different ground cover past the ivy? So on the slopes going up from the drive do ivy and at the top of the slope where it goes flat and into the yard do a different ground cover since grass likely won’t grow there?
  • 7 years ago
    Here’s a better photo to see what I’m talking about. So to the right is the slope that comes up from the driveway and that would be covered with IVy and then the left is where I’m talking about putting a different ground cover. By the way the second photo shows the type of IV that I have growing currently
  • 7 years ago
    I’m curious about the ivy comment. We live in the PNW where we battle ivy all the time. Perhaps it’s the type of ivy that grows here, but it’s an ongoing problem. Left unattended, it grows up tree trunks, over structures and is so difficult to remove. I personally would never set out to plant it.

    May be difficult to see from these pictures, but both trees have/had ivy growing up the trunks. Every year we cut back the ivy at ground level. If you enlarge the pictures, you will see the “fringy” leftover dead ivy. We had to (very carefully) use a chain saw to cut some of the ivy stems because they hadn’t been attended to in years. I didn’t include a picture of the ground, but it is covered with ivy.

    Perhaps the pros can shed some light on what we consider to be such an invasive plant. Is it the variety? Or is it how it behaves in our PNW environment?
  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    It would definitely be trouble to have two groundcovers (they usually spread sideways ... ivy does for sure) abutting one another in the same bed. How would you keep them apart? (That looks like English ivy in the picture. Algerian ivy is similar, but is a more robust, more drought resistant plant as I understand it.

    @longbranchstitch ... " I’m curious about the ivy comment. We live in the PNW where we battle ivy all the time ... I personally would never set out to plant it." You can't identify any use that it would serve ... covering and smoothing over rough ground? ... erosion control? ...growing where no other plants will? ....low cost per square foot of cover? ...evergreen for all-season use? Those are some of the reasons a person might want it. If none of those reasons work for you, why don't you get a serious program going that includes IVY KILLER, and get rid of it? If it's somewhat useful and you don't want to get rid of it all, why don't you consider learning to manage it? For example you complain that it grows up trees. It takes literally one minute per year to severe all the ivy growing up a single tree trunk. If you have 180 trees, that's three hours per year to solve that problem! How much time would it take to mow a lawn on which 180 trees would fit? ... maybe 50 times that amount of time and it would require an expensive machine! So the trade-off for ivy seems possibly favorable on that count. Anyway, you can evaluate whether it could be useful to you, or not, and then either get rid of it or get it under control.

  • 7 years ago
    Thank you, again that’s why I ask because I have no clue! :)
  • 7 years ago
    @Yardvaark - I should have been more clear about where we live which is out in the country. We trim the ivy away from our trees every year (and you are right, it takes seconds per tree once you have it under control) and use a brush cutter to keep it fairly under control on our property where we haven’t landscaped. People who don’t, suffer the fate of ivy covering everything. The pictures I attached earlier show what can happen if ivy is left to its own devices. We live in a fairly sparsely populated area with swaths of forests where ivy has run amok. It’s a situation of buyer beware and know it will take some effort to keep it under control.
  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    @longbranchstitch ... "The pictures I attached earlier show what can happen if ivy is left to its own devices." This is not a frightening prospect to me. We've addressed how it can be remedied, if desired. But neither is it harmful to the tree other than forcing it to carry additional weight ... like we might ask of a pack horse or mule to shoulder a burden. Ivy only grows on the trunk and thickest wood but it doesn't attach to thinner branches and limbs so never covers the tree foliage, which is the main way vines hurt or kill trees. Notice also that ivy stems grow only vertical on the trunk, so they never wrap around and strangle a tree either. It's almost as if the Great Power was looking for the ideal vine to be compatible with trees and English ivy was the result.

    ",,, with swaths of forests where ivy has run amok." What you call running amok, I call free groundcover. The ground of most forested areas of the country where ivy doesn't run amok is covered with impenetrable weeds which don't look very handsome at all. If one prefers that look to vast swaths of ivy, then that's just what they like. Where those are my choices, I'll take the ivy because I know, as much as I'm willing to put in the effort, I can turn the area into a civilized looking landscape for very little cost.