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Decorating Dilemma: Formal Dining Room Lighting

7 years ago
I want to add two light fixtures in place of the fan currently above my new dining table. I'm assuming my furniture is modern. I'm uncertain of colors, but am thinking gold or heirloom bronze (pictured) in the collage photo.

My formal dining area is a part of a living room combo which currently has a canary yellow chaise and a canary yellow settee to be delivered next week with a Noguchi coffee table. The formal living area has no overhead lighting (I'll add two floor lamps later). I was thinking of adding the 8-light pendant in the foyer and the 4-light pendant above the top of the stairs. Then, I was thinking to add two spherical pendants above the table. I'm not certain, however, as in the photo you can see there is lots of brown.

I'll be painting the formal dining/living combo a shade of white to freshen it up. The ceiling in those spaces are 19 feet. Any advice regarding fixtures would be much appreciated.

Comments (27)

  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I would select a linear chandelier like this hung about 36" above the dining talble.

    Your rug beneath the table should extend beyond the chairs by about 2-3ft.


    https://www.wayfair.com/lighting/pdp/freemont-5-light-kitchen-island-pendant-lrfy8044.html?piid=21231432






    https://www.destinationlighting.com/item/lantern-pendant-light-4-lt-33-inch-tall-bronze-brass/653688

  • 7 years ago
    Thank you for the suggestion. I will look into the fixtures. I got the rug as gift, so I'll keep it there for a while before changing it out.
  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    The rug is way too small maybe find another spot for it and no rug will be a better choice with those chairs. As for a light please no Edison bulbs , a linear light would be nice with the light actually lighting the table instead of the ceiling.I might be tempted to go with some bling in that space .I think the 2 fixtures for the entry should be the same design only different sizes but I do not beleive that all the fixtures need to match your DR fixture IMO can be quite different .


  • 7 years ago
    Thanks Patricia. I do agree that the linear pendant looks great over the table. I also like the transitional look of the chandelier type fixtures, but with a modern twist.

    I found three fixtures from the Perryton Collection at Home Depot that complement each other. I want to keep the same trend in these areas regarding lights.

    What do you all think of these? Would silver or gold fixtures look well in this area or should I stick with brown and bronze?

    4-Light Entry Pendant
    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Sea-Gull-Lighting-Perryton-4-Light-Heirloom-Bronze-Pendant-5115004-782/304539272?MERCH=REC-_-mobileweb_pip_rr-_-304539295-_-304539272-_-N

    8-Light Island Pendant
    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Sea-Gull-Lighting-Perryton-8-Light-Heirloom-Bronze-Pendant-6615008-782/304536205

    8-Light Foyer Pendant
    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Sea-Gull-Lighting-Perryton-8-Light-Heirloom-Bronze-Pendant-5115008-782/304539274?MERCH=REC-_-rv_mobileweb_rr-_-304536205-_-206893687-_-N
  • 7 years ago
    Thanks Beverly. I'll look at those. It's crazy how they look identical, but a different brand.
  • 7 years ago

    Hi Gabriel-

    The glass polygons with chandelier bulbs are rather pedestrian and do nothing special for your room at all.

    You can do much better.

    Don't stick to the usual online catalog companies, you will see the same boring choices again and again.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    easy for loolab to criticize the selections and then suggest .......nothing, Some people are on a budget and have to balance design with $$$.

  • 7 years ago
    @Loolab, by all means please provide some suggestions and allow me a glimpse into your refined palette of design. Ideas can only be exchanged through sharing. What would you suggest?
  • 7 years ago
    Thanks Beverly. Maybe Loolab will contribute something I can use. I can definitely afford a Starry Night or Tensegrity Pendant by Raimond Puts, however my aim is not to be outlandish or excessive. I want something that appeals not only to my style, but the style of my home. Any idea helpa me to better understand what I want and, more importantly, what I don't. I do thank you for your ideas as they've been a big help in pushing me to a final decision!
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I can show plenty of creative unusual lighting, but these fixtures often cost the same price as a complete dining room and IMO it's important to not select items which are appropriately priced for the home price point.

    Here are once again basically the same fixtures I showed you but at a higher price point. Everything you see is made in China, but often the price difference is the amount of advertising involved in selling the product.

  • 7 years ago
    My goodness. They look exactly the same! This is the reason I don't want to get expensive items when I can buy them for cheaper and still have the same look and, in certain cases, the same quality. It's uncanny how the same fixtures elevate the look of a room with advertising and placement. I really am being sold on these fixtures. Unless, someone else has others that complements my home's architecture!
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Hi, Gabriel--

    I love Beverly's choices for your space - particularly the Odie lanterns. With your height, you have a great opportunity to do the 8-light and light the height you've got. Just make sure that everything's on dimmers so you can control the wattage to the perfect level at all times.

    One other tip I like to add to extra-height installs especially is cord cover that matches the ceiling color. Adds a bit of softness and keeps the eye's focus on the design part of the fixture: chain isn't a decor statement! Cheers on your project - great space that you'll get lots of use out of (especially come the holidays) with all your lighting in check.

  • 7 years ago
    Thank you! @Fairview, those are great points you make. The Perryton lights I originally showed really stood out to me. The Odie ones are essentially the same, but more inexpensive. I think the lights come with rods. Do you propose I use the rods and paint them the color of the ceiling or should I get cord covers that are the color of it. Regarding the bulbs, should I get warm or cool white bulbs?
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Hey Gabriel--

    Good questions. For your space, I'd recommend a soft warm light that recalls candlelight (and is dimmer-friendly), ~3000K or so. Also, for your cord cover, you'd want to match the tone of your ceiling - typically white - to add softness without actually having to paint the rod itself (you might choose to paint the round j-box cover white, but won't have to do long, unwieldy rods). Covers usually come pre-adhesed for easy closure in pre-cut lengths of 8 ft, so you'll likely need to double them up with your height to have enough fabric volume to gather, creating the soft touch that keeps the focus on the fixtures themselves.

    The most important thing being that you'll want fixtures this significant to be dimmable so you have an array of light level options far beyond just on or off - that way, they're right for everything you'll need to do in the space, from detailed cleaning to setting evening entertaining moods for the holidays.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    no cord cover over the chain

  • 7 years ago
    Thank you @Fairway and @Beverly for the recommendations. That makes sense and I appreciate your insight. This is great advice. I'm a first time homeowner and it's been emotionally draining having to decide on things. The linear and box shaped fixtures really stand out and they complement the space well. I'll update you when I get everything installed. Thank you for your help!
  • 7 years ago

    Hi Gabriel G-

    Sorry it took so long to get back to you.

    Real life sometimes interferes with social media participation.

    I don't know whether or not you have already ordered your light fixtures rendering my comments moot, but here goes.

    From what I can see of your dining room. you have great taste yourself already, that is contemporary, fresh, and hip.

    If I had to guess, you probably dress that way too. (When you aren't constrained by on-the-job dress-codes.)

    So think of how you pick out your clothing and accessories.

    You look at women who have a look you like and then you deconstruct it as to what you like about it, what are the pieces they are wearing that you like, and what do you like about them, and would they look good on you? Or do they need to be tweaked? Longer, shorter, a different color, a different fabric,, a different belt because of your waist or height.

    You also look at magazines.

    Maybe you look at award shows to see the gowns and the jewelry.

    Maybe you look around in church at the outfits and the hats.

    And here's a great thing to do if you haven't done it-

    Go to the best high-end store and see what they are showing and how the things are accessorized.

    Try on what you like and feel the material and read the labels. Look at how the seams are constructed, where the darts are and how they are made. Look at everything and how you look in it.

    Then go to a store you can afford and buy something that most approximates the quality you found in the high end store.

    Okay, so why am I talking about clothing in a thread about lighting?

    We've already established that you have an eye.

    Trust yourself to use it with your chandeliers, too.

    Scour through the design magazines like Architectural Digest and look at the chandeliers, especially the ones for the rooms you want to buy for.

    Do web searches for dining room makeovers. Foyer furnishings and re-dos. They will have new fixtures, too.

    Do web searches for lighting awards, lighting designer awards.

    Look at the credits for the manufacturers, then go to those manufacturers websites to see their full lines of fixtures.

    Look up on line high end lighting manufactures and high end lighting stores

    Yes that's a lot of work, but you know, you will look at those fixture every single day until you sell that house.

    And before you jump in to say, but those fixtures will cost a fortune, yes they will.

    You don't need to buy from the Needless-Markup of lighting fixtures unless you want to and can afford it.

    What you are going to do is get an idea of what is out there and what you like.

    Do you like round fixtures, do you like fixtures that have folds, exposed bulbs shaped liked torches, rounded globes that are big, rounded globes that are small, do you like a little bling? A lot of bling? Do you like things that are branched?

    You need to educate yourself to even know what is available.

    Because with clothing you have been doing that your whole life. You've never done that with light fixtures, and this is a huge purchase that you can't just wear once and throw out if it doesn't make you happy. you and your family and friends will see it every day for as long as you have that house.

    And then you go around to different places to see what looks most like your dream fixture at a price point you can afford.

    Just like you do for your clothing.

    And do go to good lighting places in your area. They have sales and sometimes they will customize a piece to your liking, and even install it for you.

    Not just the Home Depot, Lowes type places.

    Your money isn't burning a hole in your pocket.

    Wait and take your time and buy something you love, love, love.

    You should look up at it and say this is gorgeous, it really enhances the room, it is art.

    Because it is.

    That's why I can't tell you what to pick, because like art it is so individual.

    For example, lots of people think Dale Chihuly fixtures are just wonderful but I think they either look like Medusa's hair (crazy snakes) or millions of sperm attempting to penetrate the egg. You couldn't pay me enough to have one!

    You can do this. Trust yourself and your taste. You know you have it.





  • 7 years ago
    @Loolab Thank you for the design tips and the go go-to pages to find what I need in addition to the words of encouragement. I appreciate that.

    I bought my home in December of 2017 and considered fixtures since that time, but never got around to it. I've researched on Pinterest, design stores and looked online.

    I wanted to get advice from people who have an eye for these things to lead me in the right direction. This has been great and I can use these tips everyone shared to decorate the many other rooms in the house!
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Gabriel-

    Have you thought about the drum shape at all?

    I just put in drum shape in google and this store popped up.

    Why not have a look at some of these and see what you think.

    https://www.build.com/chandeliers/c108534?f59883=drum&r=48&s=SCORE&p=1&categoryId=108534

    You can put in drum chandelier and come up with a ton of websites.

    The round shape goes very well with a rectangular table.

    Too many rectangles is boring, and it will pick up the curves in your chairs nicely, and the arch of the niche in your entryway.

  • 7 years ago
    @Loolab I'll definitely check them out. I've never been interested in drum lights, but I'll check out the site and see what stands out. Thank you!
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    You can look at some of the other shape types too just to get an idea of what is available, and then go from there -

    Have fun!

  • 7 years ago
    Thank you @loolab. I took a look at some on Pinterest and they look nice. There are so many styles of fixtures it’s just overwhelming.
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Hi,

    We specialize in interior, and exterior lighting and would love to help you find the perfect light fixtures for your home! Our lights are USA made at a great price! Give us a call or send us an email, we are here to help!

    L&S

  • 7 years ago

    I wanted to update everyone who contributed on the completion of my lights. I decided to go with the Perryton Collection lights which marry aesthetic simplicity with functionality. I love these lights. I added Philips Hue lights to all of them for full autonomy of color. I also removed the carpet and kept the bare floor. I was afraid all of the brown would make everything blend in but, to the contrary, it looks so sophisticated and simple. Thanks for your help! Next will be a dding a console table and entry mirror, paintings, and painting. So excited!!

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Awesome, Gabriel--good for you going with the Hue bulbs throughout for ultimate control, too. This is a giant upgrade from your 'before' state. Great work and keep going. Happy holidays - and cheers!

  • 7 years ago
    @Fairway Thank you so much! Everyone's helped so much and made this update a lot easier. I'll update again with new changes! Happy Holidays to you as well!!