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From the Curator of The Nursery at Grace Rose Farm

7 years ago

Hi! I wanted to introduce myself as the Curator of The Nursery at Grace Rose Farm. I’m Susan Lyell Young. You may have known me here at Poorbutroserich.

I believe it is improper for me to conduct business here so this is an informational post.

Please email me any questions or concerns susan at gracerosefarm.com

Gracie and I have worked for several years collecting the roses we know and love so that we could share them with other rose lovers. Over time, I have personally collected the vast majority of the roses we are offering and have grown them on as mother plants. None of my plants have grown in an area known to have RRD. Additionally, I have travelled all across the country to establish this collection and swapped many a plant with others who share my passion. I have financially supported all own root nurseries who offer varieties I sought. I did not collect and plants that were in commerce, I paid for them. This has been a costly undertaking for me.

Is it a perfect process? No.

Is it the only way to bring beautiful roses back into commerce and get them to those who want them? Yes.

As Kim so aptly put it, "That's what you get when you have plant nuts, ROSE nuts, sparing no effort (or expense!) to collect goodies. No joke.”

We believe that large commercial growers no longer consider what rose lovers desire.

We believe that large commercial growers no longer consider rose lovers much at all.

As we all know, Weeks is sending out roses that have been potentially exposed to RRD.

We will never knowingly send out any plant with any disease period. I also have to tell you that if you think that you can avoid RRD, those days are likely over. The Genie is out of that bottle.

Addressing comments here I would like to let you know that Gracie and her staff of twelve people walk the fields every day and care deeply for their roses. Gracie ships nearly 30,000 stems per week of cut roses to florists all across the country. This would not be possible without constant, continuous, hands-on loving care. Her roses must be immaculate. Additionally, her fields are inspected quarterly by the California Agriculture Commission.

Gracie employs two full time people who focus solely on the nursery. They hand weed and care for each plant in the field. They budded the majority of our roses in the field! I’ve visited several times and I cannot emphasize how much work goes into these roses. No machinery is used for digging nor potting.

High tunnels have just been installed for the nursery plants for their protection.

Hand in hand with caring for the roses, Gracie cares for her employees. They are paid a living wage.

She also cares for the Earth. Primarily, the roses receive organic food and water through drip irrigation but they are also given frequent hand showers and hand feeding.

Labor, as you know, is expensive. So is growing with integrity using sustainable methods. We believe we are the only rose nursery to use such methods and the costs of our plants reflect the care that is given them.

We set out to become the nursery we’ve always wanted to support, with varieties and quality that are no longer available in the US. We did not start this nursery as a money making venture and likely will not realize a profit for several years. When you purchase one of our roses you are contributing to our efforts to prevent extinction and promote preservation of the beauties.

Lastly, we want to serve you and welcome all rose nuts to rejoice with us as we bring beauty back to rose gardens. We are paying forward the kindness and generosity of those who opened their collections to us. If you will email us directly at The Nursery at Grace Rose Farm we will offer you a generous discount. We want to know what you want us to grow. Let us know?


Comments (19)

  • 7 years ago

    Belle Story ")

    susuwantsit thanked sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
  • 7 years ago
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    Hybrid Chinas and found Rose's, Gallicas, centifolias, and Damasks.. But I am not going to lie. Living on disability, I could never in a million years afford 50 dollars per rose. I understand they are 3 gallon size. I do prefer bands , myself. I cannot speak for everyone else though.


    I wanted to edit to say, I'm so happy for you, I know you put alot of hard work in it! Best of luck with your business continuing to do well.

    susuwantsit thanked Alana8aSC
  • 7 years ago

    Thank you for posting the above. Good for you Susan... and the owner too..! I am glad there is another nursery run by people with a love of roses, who are moving forward responsibly and with integrity!! I will definitely make purchases at the Grace Rose Farm when things are more settled/stable for me.


    As for roses, I hope to see available at some point - Pretty Jessica, Candice, Madam Julie Lasseu, Souvenir de Victoire Landeau, and Orange Smith.

    susuwantsit thanked Lynn-in-TX-Z8b- Austin Area/Hill Country
  • 7 years ago

    Susan, I'm very impressed by your description of the nursery, its practices and the effort you've made to introduce some truly interesting roses. Your list of roses that will shortly be available when they're large enough is truly mouth-watering and contains just about every rose that I've wanted in the past and could not find anywhere. I wish your project had begun a year earlier because I now have no more room, but something tells me I won't be able to resist buying some anyway. Rose people are not known for an abundance of restraint, alas.

    susuwantsit thanked ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
  • 7 years ago

    I didn't see the list Ingrid, where was it?

    susuwantsit thanked Alana8aSC
  • 7 years ago
    I did not know your farm existed. So good to know there is a farm growing old roses so close to me! Your farm tours look fabulous. I live near Pasadena CA and will definitely be planning a weekend getaway to Santa Barbara to see the farm. Please consider growing Black Pearl for your cut roses. BTW where can I find your cut roses in the Los Angeles area? Do you have them at the Santa Monica Farmers Market?

    As far as roses I grow, I just started my new yard from scratch. The whole yard was taken down to nothing and a drip system added. I spent weeks researching roses that had two criteria—heat tolerance for those weeks on end of 90+ degree weather and very low on prickles. Here is what I have started with:

    David Austin Roses- Darcey Bussell, Golden Celebration and James Galway (this last one due to its shade tolerance)

    Climbers- Reve d’Or, Climbing Pinkie, Peggy Martin, Excellenz von Schubert, and Madam Alfred Carrier

    Shrubs- Perle d’Or, Gruss An Teplitz, Cornelia and Lyda Rose (this last one due to reports of being a strong bloomer in part shade)
    susuwantsit thanked Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal
  • 7 years ago

    Alana, the list was at the end on the website of what was growing, but not yet ready to sell. Look at all the tabs.

    susuwantsit thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 7 years ago
    Hi Susan. It was great to finally meet you in person and meet Grace too plus tour the rose farm with Kim.

    If it helps some of you, the living wage in this area was considered to be $17 an hour and I would suspect That it is much higher now. That really increases labor costs and I am glad to hear Grace is paying a living wage. A few years back I took a tour of a commercial flower grower in Carp. The owner was outraged that he might be forced to pay $10 an hour and over time. He felt he was being generous giving his staff Sunday’s plus Christmas and Easter off.

    I’ll be looking forward to seeing the upcoming offerings and seeing what interesting varieties Grace and Susan will be carrying
    susuwantsit thanked Kippy
  • 7 years ago

    Thanks Kippy! It was great to meet you in person and I'm so glad you got to see how we grow. I appreciate your generosity.

    Without the guys who can work the fields we wouldn't have a Nursery and Gracie makes sure they are well paid and well fed.

    Gracie's farm and nursery will be open for tours this spring and folks can see for themselves the care and attention these roses receive.

    We are excited to bring beauty back and appreciate the support of the Garden Web folks because we know that, like Ingrid said, it's hard to have restraint. Please email us and take advantage of the Garden Web discount. We intend for these roses to grow in everyone's garden.

    Susan

  • 7 years ago
    Another FYI. Most of my Austin’s came from a nursery to the south of me and yes in 5g cans but I paid nearly the same price for each. And In the past I have ordered 2g cans just to get a rose in a 2g pot with 3” of soil...... you can get cheap roses at the local box store but there is a value to not driving 12 hours, paying for a hotel room and meals and buying a rose for less. Sometimes it is just a matter of how we justify the expense.
  • 7 years ago
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    There is something about the aura and mystery of many of these roses that have been around much longer than my lifetime and may have originated in faraway places that makes them worth so much more than what a local store or nursery may carry. They are very precious parts of my garden experience. My increasing tiredness makes it difficult for me to get out much now, and being able to receive roses in the mail is a necessity now as much as a luxury. Of course I shouldn't be buying more roses at all, but Zalud House and President de Carnot are following me into my dreams.

    I want to say that knowing that the people who care for these wonderful roses at this nursery are also being cared for makes me very happy. We're all in this together, and this by no means easy work deserves adequate compensation.

  • 7 years ago

    Best wishes with your new nursery, Susan and Gracie. I think the climate there must be ideal for roses considering how many cut roses are shipped out each week. It would be glorious to see those in bloom.

  • 7 years ago

    Good luck with the new nursery and thank you for introducing yourself! We are lucky to have another vendor opening up in the US.


    I'm glad to see you have many more offerings coming soon in the yellow color palette, which is my favorite. One rose I've always wanted to get grafted was 'Hoag House Cream'.


    -Chris

  • 7 years ago

    I'm blown away by Golden Oldie, which I presume is the third one down on HMF of that rose name. It is absolutely magnificent.

  • 7 years ago

    If I'm not mistaken, Ingrid, the Golden Oldie is the Harvey Davidson one from The Heritage. That's the one we had discussed and Susan had specifically collected there.

  • 7 years ago

    Kim, I'm gobsmacked by this rose, and I'm so grateful to Masha McLeod for taking those gorgeous pictures of this rose on helpmefindroses. I will boot other roses out of my garden to make room for this rose and Zalud House. What a loss it would be to lose these two very special roses. I hope that others will take a good look at these two and decide they must have them in their gardens. I'm sure there are other roses on the list that are equally worthy, but we each have to buy those roses that touch a special place in our hearts, and these two are IT for me. The third rose special to me is Souvenir de President Carnot, a rose I have had before and long to have again.


  • 7 years ago

    Oh my word, what gorgeous roses, Ingrid. I agree Zalud and Golden Oldie are wonderful too. Great to know which one, Kim, thank you.

  • 7 years ago

    You're welcome, Sheila. Susan and I both collected it last year when we were there. I wanted it for breeding and hope to have results from it this spring.


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