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how do I choose the right stain for new tongue & groove wood ceiling

6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago

We are putting in natural hickory flooring and are having trouble deciding on what color the wood ceiling should be. The ceiling is vaulted, shaped like an octagon and has white cross beams. We've been considering warm redish tones as well as brown tones. To stir things up, we even considered a grey washed pine ceiling. Help.... what will look good?

Comments (42)

  • PRO
    6 years ago
    Match the color of the wood floor as closely as possible. You may go slightly lighter or darker, but don’t use different colors as it will look like you missed. Whitewash would be fine. I am wary of grey.
  • 6 years ago

    Natural hickory flooring generally has quite a range of tones, a lot of movement and is visually busy unless you are using an engineered version that is somewhat more consistent and quieter. You don't want 2 large areas competing with each other so I'd keep the ceiling as quiet visually as possible.

    What is the wood species of the ceiling? That's going to determine how easy/difficult it will be to pick up a tone in the floor. Is this ceiling installed or are you (hopefully) planning to do the stain and finish prior to installation,, in either case making test samples on ceiling scrap is important. Remember what it looks like when you hold it next to the floor is not what it will look like high over your head. You need to see all the major color players in your space in the plane that they will be installed and at the distance they will be from each other. Which leads to wall and trim color. Presumably there will be paint on the walls between the floor and ceiling and that, too will impact how the two wood tones relate to each other.


  • 6 years ago
    Here’s the flooring and ceiling wood we are considering. It is synergy pre-stained wood. We have the choice of ponderosa pine or southern yellow pine. Also attaching Picture of ceiling and white beams. Thoughts?
  • 6 years ago
    This is the grey wash pine we are also considering. Help?! Thanks
  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Maybe keep the feature all white?




  • 6 years ago
    The ceiling is currently all white. We want to bring some warm to the area.
  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Out of those four options I'd lean towards the medium one (second from the right). The lighter ones are too close of a match. Definitely not the grey. That wouldn't bring any warmth in and it would clash with the hickory flooring. I do think an all white would be beautiful too though.

  • 6 years ago

    All white. Much too busy otherwise.

  • 6 years ago

    Any chance Synergy offers a whitewashed version of a stain close to your floor color? If you only have the choices you've shown here, I'd say the second from right probably ties in best with your floor. But since your ceiling will be quite dark with it, I'd keep the wall color a soft white to brighten the space and not try to mix in another color along with the floor and ceiling.

  • 6 years ago
    We will definitely be going with a very very light paint.
  • PRO
    6 years ago

    All white. You are dangerously close to visual overload with so many complex details and such a busy floor.

  • 6 years ago

    Lets

    To make things easier let's get all your options in one place. I clipped the colors available from Synergy in both Southern and Ponderosa Pine.

    Here's your floor and the 4 options you narrowed to originally


    Here's all the Ponderosa Pine options




    Here are all the Southern Yellow Pine options


    And here's my opinion. You'll either have too much going on with a visually busy floor, visually busy ceiling that's cut up with visually busy beams or you'll have a compete disconnect between your floor color and ceiling color. Or both. Probably both. Assuming the floor is a done deal and not subject to change at this point, I honestly don't see a good option for you for the ceiling from Synergy. Perhaps someone else will see it differently and recommend something for you from these choices.

  • 6 years ago

    I like the clear stain the best for the ceiling. Or a white wash that isn't a stark white.


  • 6 years ago
    What about the weathered grey? Too much? Unfortunately, we just covered up our white ceiling with insulation and have put in needed framing for new tongue and groove. My husband likes the weathered grey and I’m thoroughly confused at this point. Thanks all for your input. Much appreciated.
  • PRO
    6 years ago

    No weathered grey. It won't go well with the warm toned floors and it doesnt look like it goes with the style of your home at all.

  • 6 years ago

    Ditto - no weathered gray - you are introducing too many elements that you (or your husband) like individually but that don't relate well to each other. It's going to overwhelm the senses and feel disjointed. In the picture you posted of your ceiling beams, there is some unfinished Wonderboard visible - guessing that's for a fireplace wall? What's going there?

  • 6 years ago

    I would be more comfortable with drywall up there over the old wood ceiling and the EPS foam insulation. Drywall is Class I whereas the pine that you're proposing is a Class 3 fire resistant material.

  • 6 years ago
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    Too many clowns already in the circus ring. Stop while you are ahead and just keep it all white. ci_lantro is correct that drywall first would have been the better choice.

  • 6 years ago
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    Are you tied to using Synergy choices? Is it possible to find another supplier that can provide a wood matching the lightest tone in your floor since you don't want white?

  • 6 years ago
    This is the hickory flooring we are going with. It is not as busy as the clear natural hickory. Does this change suggestions for ceiling wood.
  • 6 years ago
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    Among the choices you posted, I would go with the clear Ponderosa Pine you posted above for the ceiling. This latest sample of your floor looks to be a different tone than the first one you posted.

  • 6 years ago
    How about rustic white?
  • 6 years ago

    I think the rustic white is much more compatible with your floor than the other choices.

  • 6 years ago

    You're talking about the lower, small picture that appears to have a lot of texture?

    First let me ask - have you seen the hickory actually installed in a space or are you going by the small picture from that website when you say it's not as busy as the clear natural? I can see large color variation in just that tiny pic so do not trust that it's not a busy floor. From the website in the gallery section here is a pic of the floor you think isn't as busy. That's a lot of color variation.



    Now how do you like it with your rustic white? And again, What is going up on the wall with the wonderboard? Stone? Brick?

  • 6 years ago
    The white stone pictured below is going in the wonder board/ fireplace. I haven’t seen the hickory installed. I’m reaching out to the contractor to see if he has a client that we can take a look at. Thanks for suggesting.
  • 6 years ago

    Tammy based on the ceiling beam detail and the tall fireplace wall it appears you have a large lovely room you're working on and I'll go out on a limb here and assume you have a reasonable budget for these changes. You don't know me but trust me I never make this suggestion - Do yourself a favor and put part of that budget to hiring some design help to be there in your space with you. Without an overall direction you are headed for trouble based on the wildly varying materials you are dealing with just on this thread and none of us have a clue what type of furnishings you have or want to buy for this space. It would really be a shame to get to the end of this project, look at your space and not have it look and feel the way you want - you'll be standing there scratching your head wondering why you don't love it when you love the floor and love the fireplace stone and love the beams and love the ceiling but don't love them all together.

  • 6 years ago
    Hmmm
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    It's helpful to see the three elements together as you've posted because--just IMO--it shows the disparity between the warm, golden tones in your floor and the grey, ashy tones in the ceiling. There's no cohesion in the design.

  • 6 years ago
    The auburn ponderosa pine is another ceiling color we were drawn to. White may sound like the best choice, but is not what we are looking for. We definitely are putting up new t&g, once we can determine what will work. I had a designer that moved to a new firm. I’ve reached out to her for some help as from the comment, we are on the wrong track.
  • 6 years ago
    Any of these colors work?
  • 6 years ago

    How about some info and pictures of the entire space. How big is this space? Dimensions? Floor plan and how it relates to adjacent spaces and will they have the same flooring? What is this room used for? What type of furnishings do you have for it or intend to buy? Will this room have a rug? Curtains? You'll get better help with more info.

  • 6 years ago
    The area consists of entry way, living room, dining room and front area of kitchen. See layout below. Furniture is traditional / transitional. Example of dining chair below. It will have area rugs, not sure yet in window treatments. Entire house minus bathroom will be done in sheoga character hickory.
    Thanks for the input. ❤️
  • 6 years ago

    What are your kitchen cabinets? That's another significant wood element that has to be considered in this visual mix and they are a done deal so they become the boss - everything needs to work with them.

  • 6 years ago
    Cabinets are omega dynasty Adler wood/ Smokey hills
  • 6 years ago

    And your wood flooring is going to run into the kitchen?


  • 6 years ago
    Yes - wood will run into kitchen
  • 6 years ago
    Counter top is leathered Taj Mahal
  • 6 years ago

    Yikes! Sounds like everything I've picked isn't working. I hope to meet with designer next week. Can it be saved? Lol? ;o)


  • 6 years ago

    Once: You'll either have too much going on with a visually busy floor, visually busy ceiling that's cut up with visually busy beams or you'll have a compete disconnect between your floor color and ceiling color. Or both. Probably both.

    Twice: you are introducing too many elements that you (or your husband) like individually but that don't relate well to each other. It's going to overwhelm the senses and feel disjointed.

    Seems the third time was the charm: You are stuck in the unfortunate spot of selecting things that appeal to you individually, but that do not at all work well together. You need some big picture help.

    Your cabinets are installed. That is your basis for everything else. In the pictures they do not look like the color from the mfg website that you showed but that's not surprising. Regardless, they are lovely. Your counter choice is beautiful but look here.... do you see what's happening? These are pictures on monitors where colors are never true, not real life but this is the beginning of trouble. and not inexpensive I can fix it with a coat of paint trouble. That stone is costly - are you obligated to it? Wait for your designer next week. I'd recommend totally stepping away from this and stop trying to come up with *the thing* that's going to tie this all together. Hopefully the only thing that's a done deal is the cabinets and if anything else is pending, stop it while you can.





  • last month

    We’re putting up spruce pine in our family room ceiling and will also have hickory flooring. I recommend using a semitransparent stain to compliment the beauty of your floor. I’m actually in the process now of making samples to decide. Best of luck to you.

  • last month

    " I recommend using a semitransparent stain to compliment the beauty of your floor. I’m actually in the process now of making samples to decide. Best of luck to you. "


    Corrinne Reese 6 year old post and I am sure they have completed the project by now.